And you know, she also kind of raped the dude. Which is debatable, but the fact that this movie even led to the discussion of "did Wonder Woman just rape that dude?" is mind blowing.
Chances are, almost certainly not, but as you point out, that we're left in a position to ask is a bizzare choice of writing. Even by the laws of the setting itself, the Dreamstone can clearly make things appear out of thin air (e.g. it creates 100 new nukes for the US), but for some reason, it can't give Steve a body of his own?
Wouldn't go that far myself. BvS and Suicide Squad are both messes. I probably enjoyed Suicide Squad more than this one, but on the level of filmmaking itself? Still ranks higher.
I assumed that was the repercussion of the wish (which would have been fine and probably made more sense), but then she started to lose her power as well. So yup, just dumb writing.
I hate BvS with a burning passion, but at the very least, it has some artistic vision. Beautiful shots, good musical score, more or less excellent effects. Whereas this movie felt very "I guess we should do a sequel" and cheap. I'm no expert on filmography, but I'd say that while WW 1984 wasn't as bad an experience as BvS, from a filmmaking perspective it's the equivalent of comparing an off brand product to the original.
As I understand it, having not seen the film, the stone used a real dude's body, and basically just hijacked it and gave Steve control of it for a while. Which, if that is accurate, completely body snatched him, and stole all of his autonomy. So yes, she very much raped him, because he had no way to give consent. Being John Malkovich did something similar, and it was shown to be a pretty horrifying thing for the person being body controlled, and for the person being trapped inside the head.
Verdict: no rape. Steve consents to sex with Diana. From the moment of Diana's wish the body was Steve's and thus no need to consult Handsome Man, for he was not a part of it. Even if compared to a dissociative personality (used to be called MPD) it wouldn't be rape, but that's unnecessary because the Dreamstone works on magic that Patty Jenkins made up. Moreover, Steve doesn't even steal Handsome Man's identity as he introduces himself as Steve and doesn't use Handsome Man's passport.
I like to imagine the whole time Steve is in his place the other guy is trapped in a horrifying hellish alternate dimension fighting for his life against hoards of monsters or he's trapped outside his body unable to move or speak, only able watch on in horror as Steve tries on fanny packs.
Are you sure about that last bit? I don't remember enough about this movie, but according to this article: https://collider.com/how-does-steve-trevor-come-back-wonder-woman-1984/, Steve appears as Steve only to Diana. Hell, I think even Steve sees himself as the Handsome Man. It is very much still Handsome Man's body. While I guess yeah it's silly to debate over magic, it's definitely distasteful. And we all know if it were the reverse, people would be REALLLLL pissed.
Yes, Steve's body granted to him by magic used to belong to Handsome Man. After the wish it's Steve's. As in Steve's consciousness is in sole control. After renouncing the wish things magically reset to where they were. Distastefulness is arguable, yes, rape is not, because of the reasons in my previous comment.
My argument is solid. Admitting that you're wrong can be healthy sometimes.
You make it sound like Handsome Man's body is only his when his consciousness is in control. If anything, that seems even more like rape.
You don't know if you control your body because of a magic spell that was cast when you were 2 years old. Maybe you are raping Handsome Bob as we speak?
You're mistaking me for somebody that gives a shit. Glad to know you like talking about yourself. It's rape; deal with it. If you can't handle it, not my problem. Already moving on, so don't bother responding back in this case.
I would love to be in an alternate universe where no COVID happened if only to see the as filmed and released on time version of that movie.
I kinda forgot covid likely played a big role in stopping them from doing proper reshoots or spending money on more effects and editing.
