Discuss and Rate the Last Film You Watched

[Xprimentyl]

THE Suicide Squad: Entertaining / Great

I don't need to break it down for you; you know what this movie is: a Harley Quinn vehicle. That said, it was fun. So ridiculously off the rails by the end (there's a space starfish involved) that you can't help but smile. Would loved to have seen it in the theater; this is the exact kind of film that merits 4,000 calories-worth of buttery popcorn and a tub of soda.

EDIT: It was DUMB fun. And while I'd never heard of him, Peacemaker is an interesting character, like a Batman without the "no kill" policy and the added "benefit" of no restraint in terms of killing men women AND children to maintain peace. Almost like DC's answer to Marvel's Punisher, but ramped up to 11.

 

[happyninja42]

THE Suicide Squad: Entertaining / Great

I don't need to break it down for you; you know what this movie is: a Harley Quinn vehicle. That said, it was fun. So ridiculously off the rails by the end (there's a space starfish involved) that you can't help but smile. Would loved to have seen it in the theater; this is the exact kind of film that merits 4,000 calories-worth of buttery popcorn and a tub of soda.

EDIT: It was DUMB fun. And while I'd never heard of him, Peacemaker is an interesting character, like a Batman without the "no kill" policy and the added "benefit" of no restraint in terms of killing men women AND children to maintain peace. Almost like DC's answer to Marvel's Punisher, but ramped up to 11.

Yeah, while I personally didn't like the movie overall, it had some moments here and there that I found funny. John Cena was clearly having a blast playing Peacemaker, and was willing to do whatever for a laugh. But I also like that they gave him a bit of dramatic acting near the end when things change a bit. I generally dislike the CHARACTER of Harley, but Margot definitely also has fun playing the character. She didn't make me laugh that often, but she did get the one genuinely surprised laugh out loud moment out of me when watching "I'M WALKING BACK AND FORTH!!" I don't know why that delivery got me so hard, but damn if it didn't have me laughing pretty hard for a good 20 seconds or so after. I think it was the combination of her facial expression, physical acting overall, and the randomness of the line at that point in the scene.

Overall I didn't like it. Though I had a very fascinating experience watching it with my 2 friends. When I asked them what they thought, they both said "it's what I expected" , which I found interesting, because I too felt it was "what I expected" but they found something they enjoyed, I found something that was mostly a chore to sit through.

 

[BrawlMan]

THE Suicide Squad: Entertaining / Great

I don't need to break it down for you; you know what this movie is: a Harley Quinn vehicle. That said, it was fun. So ridiculously off the rails by the end (there's a space starfish involved) that you can't help but smile. Would loved to have seen it in the theater; this is the exact kind of film that merits 4,000 calories-worth of buttery popcorn and a tub of soda.

EDIT: It was DUMB fun. And while I'd never heard of him, Peacemaker is an interesting character, like a Batman without the "no kill" policy and the added "benefit" of no restraint in terms of killing men women AND children to maintain peace. Almost like DC's answer to Marvel's Punisher, but ramped up to 11.

Peacemaker is pretty much an evil version of Captain America. John Cena put in a great job. His acting chops improved around the early to mid 2010s.

 

[BrawlMan]

Yeah, while I personally didn't like the movie overall, it had some moments here and there that I found funny. John Cena was clearly having a blast playing Peacemaker, and was willing to do whatever for a laugh. But I also like that they gave him a bit of dramatic acting near the end when things change a bit. I generally dislike the CHARACTER of Harley, but Margot definitely also has fun playing the character. She didn't make me laugh that often, but she did get the one genuinely surprised laugh out loud moment out of me when watching "I'M WALKING BACK AND FORTH!!" I don't know why that delivery got me so hard, but damn if it didn't have me laughing pretty hard for a good 20 seconds or so after. I think it was the combination of her facial expression, physical acting overall, and the randomness of the line at that point in the scene.

Overall I didn't like it. Though I had a very fascinating experience watching it with my 2 friends. When I asked them what they thought, they both said "it's what I expected" , which I found interesting, because I too felt it was "what I expected" but they found something they enjoyed, I found something that was mostly a chore to sit through.

The movie pretty much matched my expectations. All I was expecting was a better version of the first movie. And I like the first movie. SS2 is pretty much an S rank film for me.

 

[Xprimentyl]

Yeah, while I personally didn't like the movie overall, it had some moments here and there that I found funny. John Cena was clearly having a blast playing Peacemaker, and was willing to do whatever for a laugh. But I also like that they gave him a bit of dramatic acting near the end when things change a bit. I generally dislike the CHARACTER of Harley, but Margot definitely also has fun playing the character. She didn't make me laugh that often, but she did get the one genuinely surprised laugh out loud moment out of me when watching "I'M WALKING BACK AND FORTH!!" I don't know why that delivery got me so hard, but damn if it didn't have me laughing pretty hard for a good 20 seconds or so after. I think it was the combination of her facial expression, physical acting overall, and the randomness of the line at that point in the scene.

Overall I didn't like it. Though I had a very fascinating experience watching it with my 2 friends. When I asked them what they thought, they both said "it's what I expected" , which I found interesting, because I too felt it was "what I expected" but they found something they enjoyed, I found something that was mostly a chore to sit through.

I would largely agree if I had ANY expectations, but once I "let go, and let God," I enjoyed it as junk food (a comparison I've made a lot lately.) I wasn't following they story so much as I was waiting to see what happened next. That is to say, I can't say why anything happened, but a LOT happened, and it was fun. A shark-man ate some people, Harley Quinn pulled off a brilliant-if-impossible kidnapping escape, a building collapsed, Idris Elba used the "F" word a lot, someone's face was literally blown off, there was a giant starfish destroying a city etc. It was just dumb fun; would loved to have watched it whilst in a bouncy house. I'm hesitant to say it out loud, but it almost feels like we need more movies like this, that just ask us to put our heavy minds down after a long couple of years of isolation and depression and enjoy something incredibly stupid.

Peacemaker is pretty much an evil version of Captain America. John Cena put in a great job. His acting chops improved around the early to mid 2010s.

That's probably a more acute comparison. I just thought Batman with his strict "no kill" mantra, then thought of the Punisher who pretty much kills anyone within a moral boundary. But yeah, Peacemaker is more the direct antithesis to Captain America. Good call.

 

[happyninja42]

I would largely agree if I had ANY expectations, but once I "let go, and let God," I enjoyed it as junk food (a comparison I've made a lot lately.) I wasn't following they story so much as I was waiting to see what happened next. That is to say, I can't say why anything happened, but a LOT happened, and it was fun. A shark-man ate some people, Harley Quinn pulled off a brilliant-if-impossible kidnapping escape, a building collapsed, Idris Elba used the "F" word a lot, someone's face was literally blown off, there was a giant starfish destroying a city etc. It was just dumb fun; would loved to have watched it whilst in a bouncy house. I'm hesitant to say it out loud, but it almost feels like we need more movies like this, that just ask us to put our heavy minds down after a long couple of years of isolation and depression and enjoy something incredibly stupid.

In theory I agree, and I'm sure there are plenty of incredibly stupid things that I love and enjoy if I sat down and thought about it. But that film just didn't do it for me. Overall. Like I said, some bits here and there were good individual scenes, but the full product just didn't make me enjoy the time I spent watching it.

 

[Piscian]

Peacemaker is pretty much an evil version of Captain America. John Cena put in a great job. His acting chops improved around the early to mid 2010s.

I wouldn't call him evil, just zealous. He practically begged them to give him the tape and let it go. I would say he's more sociopathic in that once he set it in his mind that they needed to be eliminated, he was determined in that decision. I suspect they'll end up fleshing his personality out more in that upcoming series and he'll end up looking more like what we "wanted" with US Agent.

 

[BrawlMan]

I wouldn't call him evil, just zealous. He practically begged them to give him the tape and let it go. I would say he's more sociopathic in that once he set it in his mind that they needed to be eliminated, he was determined in that decision. I suspect they'll end up fleshing his personality out more in that upcoming series and he'll end up looking more like what we "wanted" with US Agent.

He's both. Evil and zealous. Yes, he was broken up and he was struggling to do what was clearly the wrong and morally questionable thing, but that doesn't change the fact that he still did it. He's still an evil and zealous dick with some "honor", but still those things. As far as I'm concerned (and many others), he's evil Captain America. Peacemaker is everything that Captain Rogers doesn't want to be. Rogers is a soldier with heart, not some shit heel who's a slave to his patriotism, never questions anything, and mindlessly swallowing orders. It's what got Peacemaker in the slammer in the first place. You either get people like that, or him...

 

[Casual Shinji]

The running gag with Polka Dot Man's mom in The Suicide Squad was pretty obnoxious from the very first reveal, and highlights a problem I have with James Gunn's comedy. When the guy tells us he hates killing people but that if he imagines they're his mom it's easy, it works perfectly as dark comedy while still taking this issue Polka Dot Man has serious enough. But then it literally shows it, turning it into a spectacle and turning this side that gives the character of Polka Dot Man some weight into this grotesque thing for the audience to laugh at. Doing it once was already iffy, but then it keeps running with it. He initially gets introduced as this somewhat tragic character who gets treated as a joke by other people, but then the movie turns around and starts doing it too, and it kinda comes across as mean-spirited.

I had a similar issue with Drax continuously dunking on Mantis in Guardians 2. Like, I understand the joke of it, but it just came across as, I don't know... jerk humor. Despite Gunn no longer going for the super offensive shock humor he used to like (and got into some trouble for) there still seems to be this element of juvenile pettiness to some of his comedy.

 

[happyninja42]

The running gag with Polka Dot Man's mom in The Suicide Squad was pretty obnoxious from the very first reveal, and highlights a problem I have with James Gunn's comedy. When the guy tells us he hates killing people but that if he imagines they're his mom it's easy, it works perfectly as dark comedy while still taking this issue Polka Dot Man has serious enough. But then it literally shows it, turning it into a spectacle and turning this side that gives the character of Polka Dot Man some weight into this grotesque thing for the audience to laugh at. Doing it once was already iffy, but then it keeps running with it. He initially gets introduced as this somewhat tragic character who gets treated as a joke by other people, but then the movie turns around and starts doing it too, and it kinda comes across as mean-spirited.

I had a similar issue with Drax continuously dunking on Mantis in Guardians 2. Like, I understand the joke of it, but it just came across as, I don't know... jerk humor. Despite Gunn no longer going for the super offensive shock humor he used to like (and got into some trouble for) there still seems to be this element of juvenile pettiness to some of his comedy.

Plus the thing with Polka Dot's mom, seems to contradict his behavior? I mean, it was framed initially as "if I just imagine my mom, I can easily kill people." But then they show that it's like a mental condition for him. Like a side effect of his powers that she inflicted on him. So...then why is he so reluctant to kill throughout the movie? I mean if EVERYONE looks like his mom, and that fact alone is enough to let him freely kill people...why wasn't he killing people left and right?

And yeah, I felt like what Gunn was aiming for with Drax and Mantis, was to have him just say the various things that would normally make a woman think a guy doesn't like him, but you know, it's Drax, and that he didn't actually mean it the way she took it, because he doesn't understand metaphor. Couple that with Mantis being naive about everything, making for a perfect storm of romantic awkwardness. But yeah, it came across as just horrible behavior from Drax. I think it would've worked better if it had been like "Do you think I'm pretty?" "No." Mantis brain translation "He thinks I'm hideous." Drax continues: "Pretty is what you call tiny animals that make squeaking noises when you poke them" *maybe glancing at Rocket for comedy* "People are not pretty. They are strange collections of problems and dreams. But that does make them beautiful." Mantis perks up. "So you think I am beautiful?" "Yes. You are beautiful." Or something like that. You can still have the joke of the rejection due to miscommunication between socially inept people, but not have it come off so dickish. I mean even for a species that doesn't understand metaphor, saying someone is hideous isn't a metaphor. So, there's no reason to think that Drax wouldn't understand that such a statement would bother someone.

 

[Casual Shinji]

Plus the thing with Polka Dot's mom, seems to contradict his behavior? I mean, it was framed initially as "if I just imagine my mom, I can easily kill people." But then they show that it's like a mental condition for him. Like a side effect of his powers that she inflicted on him. So...then why is he so reluctant to kill throughout the movie? I mean if EVERYONE looks like his mom, and that fact alone is enough to let him freely kill people...why wasn't he killing people left and right?

And yeah, I felt like what Gunn was aiming for with Drax and Mantis, was to have him just say the various things that would normally make a woman think a guy doesn't like him, but you know, it's Drax, and that he didn't actually mean it the way she took it, because he doesn't understand metaphor. Couple that with Mantis being naive about everything, making for a perfect storm of romantic awkwardness. But yeah, it came across as just horrible behavior from Drax. I think it would've worked better if it had been like "Do you think I'm pretty?" "No." Mantis brain translation "He thinks I'm hideous." Drax continues: "Pretty is what you call tiny animals that make squeaking noises when you poke them" *maybe glancing at Rocket for comedy* "People are not pretty. They are strange collections of problems and dreams. But that does make them beautiful." Mantis perks up. "So you think I am beautiful?" "Yes. You are beautiful." Or something like that. You can still have the joke of the rejection due to miscommunication between socially inept people, but not have it come off so dickish. I mean even for a species that doesn't understand metaphor, saying someone is hideous isn't a metaphor. So, there's no reason to think that Drax wouldn't understand that such a statement would bother someone.

I think, like with Polka Dot Man's first line about his mother, that first real interaction interaction between Drax and Mantis is fine, if not a tad on the jerky side. I mean, Drax is kind of a jerk. But then it never grows out of that. It keeps hammering on it, and dragging it back in by the hairs, when you want to give the audience the feeling that this character or the relationship between these two characters is improving.

And if these movies were just Naked Gun style gag fests it wouldn't matter, but they're not. Gunn very explicitly tries to grant these weirdo characters some genuine pathos, and even succeeds at it, like with Rocket Raccoon. But this type of Scary Movie-esque humor is like an albatros around its neck. With the first two Guardians movies there were a couple of small moments like that, though overall they worked extremely well. But with The Suicide Squad they stuck out to me a lot, and it really dragged the movie down.

 

[McElroy]

But then they show that it's like a mental condition for him. Like a side effect of his powers that she inflicted on him. So...then why is he so reluctant to kill throughout the movie?

I thought that while he's struggling under constant hallucinations he can keep the urge to hurt his mother under control, because he knows mommy isn't really there. Very schizophrenic. Dealing with Starro didn't really fit into that, but then again Bloodsport isn't a shrink and just came up with whatever to get the dots flying.

 

[Piscian]

I thought that while he's struggling under constant hallucinations he can keep the urge to hurt his mother under control, because he knows mommy isn't really there. Very schizophrenic. Dealing with Starro didn't really fit into that, but then again Bloodsport isn't a shrink and just came up with whatever to get the dots flying.

I would parrot that he's essentially schizophrenic. Everyone and everything looks like his mom already and he probably wants to murder everything. He's holding back mentally telling himself that he's insane and not kill everyone. Bloodsport and others give him permission to kill.

 

[gorfias]

THE Suicide Squad: Entertaining / Great

I don't need to break it down for you; you know what this movie is: a Harley Quinn vehicle. That said, it was fun. So ridiculously off the rails by the end (there's a space starfish involved) that you can't help but smile. Would loved to have seen it in the theater; this is the exact kind of film that merits 4,000 calories-worth of buttery popcorn and a tub of soda.

EDIT: It was DUMB fun. And while I'd never heard of him, Peacemaker is an interesting character, like a Batman without the "no kill" policy and the added "benefit" of no restraint in terms of killing men women AND children to maintain peace. Almost like DC's answer to Marvel's Punisher, but ramped up to 11.

Just making sure you know Starro is a thing...



Good fan service there!

 

[Xprimentyl]

Just making sure you know Starro is a thing...

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Good fan service there!

I did not know it was a thing. Thank you. Ridiculousness still stands; the whole film feels like before they wrote the first line of the script they just went "fuck it..."

 

[happyninja42]

I did not know it was a thing. Thank you. Ridiculousness still stands; the whole film feels like before they wrote the first line of the script they just went "fuck it..."

Was there a doubt that some ridiculous creature from a comic book is actually something that got published? I mean seriously? There is ANY level of doubt and skepticism on "*Insert Whatever Insane Thing You Can Think Of* was published in a comic book from an era where cocaine was considered just fine for consumption, AND a recreational drug?

 

[Xprimentyl]

Was there a doubt that some ridiculous creature from a comic book is actually something that got published? I mean seriously? There is ANY level of doubt and skepticism on "*Insert Whatever Insane Thing You Can Think Of* was published in a comic book from an era where cocaine was considered just fine for consumption, AND a recreational drug?

Just ridiculous in the fact that of all antagonists, they chose the one that is absolutely the most absurd. Like, I imagine in the writing room, everyone was high, then Cheech and Chong hollered from the corner: "Hey, mayne, let's use the giant fucking starfish from outer space," and everyone else (still high) said "fuck yeah; let's make a fucking fuck-off movie!"

 

[happyninja42]

Just ridiculous in the fact that of all antagonists, they chose the one that is absolutely the most absurd. Like, I imagine in the writing room, everyone was high, then Cheech and Chong hollered from the corner: "Hey, mayne, let's use the giant fucking starfish from outer space," and everyone else (still high) said "fuck yeah; let's make a fucking fuck-off movie!"

That tracks yes. But yeah, it's all fucking ridiculousness on toast, and insane as hell

 

[BrawlMan]

That tracks yes. But yeah, it's all fucking ridiculousness on toast, and insane as hell

What's next, a Japanese imperial soldier that hosts rhino beetles in his body? Absurd, absurd I say!

 

[happyninja42]

What's next, a Japanese imperial soldier that hosts rhino beetles in his body? Absurd, absurd I say!

I'm going to guess that's actually a thing out there somewhere Never heard of it but, yeah sure, Rhino-San, Master of Beetleshido!