I assume all of us are well aware what the actual reason for this is? Big corporations (Youtube included) and the government don't like having their videos looking bad from having a lot of dislikes.
Youtube is now removing the dislike feature
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I assume all of us are well aware what the actual reason for this is? Big corporations (Youtube included) and the government don't like having their videos looking bad from having a lot of dislikes.
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This is cringe on the part of YouTube
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Yet it does not surprise me in the slightest.
Yet it does not surprise me in the slightest.
Just for context. This move is meant to stop small creators from being targeted by cancellers who shower creator's videos they don't like with dislikes to fuck up the algorithm against the creator. Thus their videos will never get traction or make money.
I get the reason behind why. Im for the idea. But they went for the 'easiest cost effective solution.' Which means that its a blanket solution that probably won't alleviate the problem and cause other problems. Eg. I use the like/dislike ratio for 'How to' videos to help me determine if the creator knows what they are talking about
Here's the thing though, they could just stop the dislike feature from effecting the algorithm.
I generally don't care for this on a personal level, I always see the vote/like wars as a dumb popularity stunt I'm too cool to care about. You can game it by exerting your popularity to command people to vote one way or another so it doesn't really prove anything.
But on a broader sense it's very authoritarian of youtube to try and limit what people can express on their platform.
But on a broader sense it's very authoritarian of youtube to try and limit what people can express on their platform.
YouTube metrics treat likes and dislikes the same- they're both "engagement" and influence the algorithm to show the video to more people.
I'd bet a dollar to a bent dime that this is at the behest of corporations who don't like when the promotional video for their new whiz-bang product gets swamped with dislikes because the company selling the product is scum.
Well, I don't really want an actual video that is actually disliked because it does a bad job to get on the feed over better quality videos. Like, that defeats any idea of meritocracy.
My example did even use the algorithm. And not apply it to the algorithm, it won't change much for that creator
Im not sure I get it? The like/dislike buttons are already disable-able. Why a site wide announcement? Is this some advertisement thing, where companies don't want their ads of massively disliked videos, but the algorithm just says they're massively interacted videos?
Like some Neo-Nazi puts out a video being pro-child rape, and it gets a million downvotes and ads start running because a million people have watched?
Like some Neo-Nazi puts out a video being pro-child rape, and it gets a million downvotes and ads start running because a million people have watched?
Susan Wojcicki is a corporate clown. Fuck her. Oh, women are going to make companies, countries, etc so much better. says the cringle feminists. I disagree. They just want a higher chance to get a high-power job, and to be part of the elite. We need more AOCs, the squad, but we also need more Bernie Sanders. We need more progressives in positions of power not just MOAR WOMEN.
During Susan Wojcicki's reign, we have gotten...
More corporate news is being shoved our news feeds and autoruns(watch a progressive show, gets shoved into MSDNC, CNN so fast)
Conservative News reigning supreme on Youtube
Independent progressive content creators that don't have a company like Secular Talk, Progressive Voice, The Majority Report, the Rational National, and etc getting their subs tanked, while pro-BIden Vaush(who is the only pro-centrist socialist I support), Destiny, and other centrist bootlickers getting highlighted.
We get it Susan you goddam elitist Karen,k you want Youtube to be like Cable News. Fuck off, and join CNN already.
I could go on, and on. Susan Wojcicki is the worst CEO in Youtube's history, and Google buying Youtube was the most pro-corporate anti-progressive thing to happen until Twitter gets muzzled like Reddit is.
akhaledblog.medium.com
More evidence of Susan the Corporate shill's actions.
During Susan Wojcicki's reign, we have gotten...
More corporate news is being shoved our news feeds and autoruns(watch a progressive show, gets shoved into MSDNC, CNN so fast)
Conservative News reigning supreme on Youtube
Independent progressive content creators that don't have a company like Secular Talk, Progressive Voice, The Majority Report, the Rational National, and etc getting their subs tanked, while pro-BIden Vaush(who is the only pro-centrist socialist I support), Destiny, and other centrist bootlickers getting highlighted.
We get it Susan you goddam elitist Karen,k you want Youtube to be like Cable News. Fuck off, and join CNN already.
I could go on, and on. Susan Wojcicki is the worst CEO in Youtube's history, and Google buying Youtube was the most pro-corporate anti-progressive thing to happen until Twitter gets muzzled like Reddit is.
YouTube’s Erratic Decision-Making Is Hurting BreadTube
The platform’s response to its missteps are pieced together with spit and glue.
More evidence of Susan the Corporate shill's actions.
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Same. Without a dislike button I haven't got any sense of the ratio - if all there are is likes, it could mean millions of people saw the video but only a few thousand thought it was good, or it might be a very niche thing I'm looking at but a very good video.
I myself will suspect most upvotes to be faked due to bots and/or active meddling by Google (AKA, corporate favors). Just feeds more fuel to the propaganda machine, by totally removing signs of dissenting opinion.
I guess I should be thankful I only watch a very small set of channels literally never explore youtube so no fucks given. Granted the reason I don't surf youtube is because their algorithm is already shit and taking away dislikes is just going to make it worse.
Okay, so the formal and informal metrics change from like:dislike ratio, to views:like ratio. This changes what, exactly?
Other than in two or three years from now, Youtube starts hiding view count by default.
Other than in two or three years from now, Youtube starts hiding view count by default.
So now Reddit is essentially the only major platform left that has any meaningful way to leave negative feedback. How fun. Trying to be like Instagram and Twitter, always a great choice. Hell, fuck Facebook, but at least it has the angry react.
Views to like ratios are pretty useless for certain types of videos, especially for older ones.
So my thoughts on this is it's hilarious.
So you're telling me the creators still see the dislikes only now they're not public so shitty little writers with an agenda to push can't go "Oh the horrible misogynists are mass downvoting the trailer for the stunning and brave Ghostbusers 2016 movie" anymore?
Youtube just cost a load a crappy journalist who simp for corporations a good 30-50% of their bread and butter articles.
Funnier still it creates a new idea. The youtube ratio. Likes to views. If a view isn't getting many likes compared to views people can tell it's no popular still
So you're telling me the creators still see the dislikes only now they're not public so shitty little writers with an agenda to push can't go "Oh the horrible misogynists are mass downvoting the trailer for the stunning and brave Ghostbusers 2016 movie" anymore?
Youtube just cost a load a crappy journalist who simp for corporations a good 30-50% of their bread and butter articles.
Funnier still it creates a new idea. The youtube ratio. Likes to views. If a view isn't getting many likes compared to views people can tell it's no popular still
It doesn't fuck up the algorithm by giving a thumbs down it's still engagement. Remember Friday by Rebecca Black still trended even with some of the most downvotes on youtube. he whole "Mass downvoting small creators" thing is more disparaging / discouraging to them than cancelling, hell mass downvotes can get you a boost in the algorithm.
The true downside will be dangerous shit like 5 minute craft's numerous videos or some stupid scam bullshit being pushed not getting downvoted into oblivion so people who look down no longer see the mass dislikes that were an easy indictor the claims are bullshit or there craft advice is actually terrible. (For those who don't know 5 minute crafts have put out videos that are potentially dangerous to people or just bullshit)
A 10 view to 1 like ratio is normally considered pretty good going. A 100 view to 1 like is more normal.
I think a better solution would simply be to allow creators to enable/disable likes/dislikes for their stuff, just like they do comments. I mean, if you stand behind your content and want it judged on its merit, put it up to the scrutiny of the masses, right?
