Funny events in anti-woke world

Dwarvenhobble

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That's the best you got, huh?

Oh well.
That's the best response you've got?

A Deflect not actually addressing or trying to justify the ever shifting positions such that previously it was contemptible to suggest Jewish people are just the same as other white people but now it's contemptible to suggest there is or should be see as being a difference.

So care to address the actual point or will you go with another deflection.
 

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That's the best response you've got?

A Deflect not actually addressing or trying to justify the ever shifting positions such that previously it was contemptible to suggest Jewish people are just the same as other white people but now it's contemptible to suggest there is or should be see as being a difference.

So care to address the actual point or will you go with another deflection.
Whoopi wasn't criticized/suspended for saying that Jewish people are the same as white people. What she was criticized for was saying that race had absolutely nothing to do with the Holocaust. Even though the entire concept of the Holocaust was to promote the Aryan race. Also, there is a difference between ethnicity and race. There's basically no difference appearance-wise between Irishmen and Americans, but that didn't stop "Irish Need Not Apply" in the early 20th century.
 

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Whoopi wasn't criticized/suspended for saying that Jewish people are the same as white people. What she was criticized for was saying that race had absolutely nothing to do with the Holocaust. Even though the entire concept of the Holocaust was to promote the Aryan race. Also, there is a difference between ethnicity and race. There's basically no difference appearance-wise between Irishmen and Americans, but that didn't stop "Irish Need Not Apply" in the early 20th century.
I dont think you understand. If we just remove that part from the argument, we can make those people who criticise Whoopi out as evil Nazis. Why wont you play along?
 

Dwarvenhobble

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Whoopi wasn't criticized/suspended for saying that Jewish people are the same as white people. What she was criticized for was saying that race had absolutely nothing to do with the Holocaust. Even though the entire concept of the Holocaust was to promote the Aryan race. Also, there is a difference between ethnicity and race. There's basically no difference appearance-wise between Irishmen and Americans, but that didn't stop "Irish Need Not Apply" in the early 20th century.
Her phrasing was that it wasn't about race but mans inhumanity or words to that effect.
 

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Yes.
This is why it's mad to me.
It was a race thing because the Nazis clearly didn't see Jewish people as the same race as them.
Maybe you should read it again. And then read this post you just wrote

Just note: Whoopi disagrees with your take (at the time she said it)
 

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Yes.
This is why it's mad to me.
It was a race thing because the Nazis clearly didn't see Jewish people as the same race as them.
Right, so.... you also think Whoopi Goldberg's statement was "mad" then?

Why were you moaning about other people objecting to it then?
 

Dwarvenhobble

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Right, so.... you also think Whoopi Goldberg's statement was "mad" then?

Why were you moaning about other people objecting to it then?
No I think her statement was unfortunately phrased but was very in line with woke dogma until woke dogma decided it wasn't for some reason and now woke dogma has moved back again so it once again is. It's a weird position because well Jewish heritage is a culture really and it comes down to what people see race as. In short I disagree with her statement on the premise level of equating all white people as being the same which is somewhat inline with the woke dogma of "White people have no culture" that was passed round many years back in some circles
 

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No I think her statement was unfortunately phrased but was very in line with woke dogma until woke dogma decided it wasn't for some reason and now woke dogma has moved back again so it once again is. It's a weird position because well Jewish heritage is a culture really and it comes down to what people see race as. In short I disagree with her statement on the premise level of equating all white people as being the same which is somewhat inline with the woke dogma of "White people have no culture" that was passed round many years back in some circles

"Woke" people have never believed that the Holocaust wasn't about race. These vagaries are entirely in your mind.
 

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No the woke position is that all white people are the exact same monoculture
Lol. Citation needed.

because progressive stack positions.
This is a phrase that is literally meaningless. I'd ask if you were just using a poor something-to-english translator, but you're supposedly from the UK with english as your first language...
 

Dwarvenhobble

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Lol. Citation needed.
We really going to do the thing where I have to show tons of people on about how "White people have no culture" as you pretend to not be aware of that going down just to waste everyones time then go into the "But they don't count" argument again to waste more time?

I mean we can but at this stage I've countered you what 50+ times only for you to not reply and give up then do this again?

At what point do you want to take it as read that I have a point without having to do this silly time wasting dance?


This is a phrase that is literally meaningless.
Yeh no lets not pretend the progressive stack wasn't something pushed by people in woke world.
 

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We really going to do the thing where I have to show tons of people on about how "White people have no culture" as you pretend to not be aware of that going down just to waste everyones time then go into the "But they don't count" argument again to waste more time?

I mean we can but at this stage I've countered you what 50+ times only for you to not reply and give up then do this again?

At what point do you want to take it as read that I have a point without having to do this silly time wasting dance?

Yeh no lets not pretend the progressive stack wasn't something pushed by people in woke world.
How is 'white people have no culture' related to 'white people have a monoculture'?

You realise we just stop replying because you have made some incredible claims that aren't related to the topic. We realise that chasing goal posts around a field is utterly pointless and you haven't bothered to engaged in the argument. We were on Whoopi Goldberg and in two short steps we are talking about monoculture. Through some vapid tenuous links that are more about you being angry and trying to press an 'I WIN' button

Also, where was you're comeback or whatever for my last comment. Failing your own criteria huh? Anyway, sometimes things don't need a reply. It's okay

Here's what I'll say about Whoopi. I understand that she didn't mean what she said. I think that she got confused in her statement. What she was saying wasn't mutually exclusive. But she did need to answer questions. Because her statement goes against everything we have been taught about WW2. And strays far to close to conspiracy theory. It's like when Peterson came out with his 'Forced Monogamy' concept. He needed to answer questions about what that means. At least Whoopi isnt a troll trying to score pollical points like JP is