Top female Twitch streamer Amouranth stream turns dark as an apparent abusive husband comes to light

[Dwarvenhobble]

So the main bit.



Additional this is apparently the last thing before the stream today from her went down (note this is being added for full context before I'm accused of anything else or ulterior motives)


So topics this actually brings up

Has the modern "Boob streamer" trend opened up a horrifying new potential area for abuse and what I'd consider exploitation especially with stuff like the Onlyfans links and other stuff being connected to Twitch streamers and the Twitch part being almost just advertising for behind the scenes stuff?

How the hell do you deal with exploitation and abuse like this when the area of work isn't illegal so law enforcement don't have involvement but there's also so very little in terms of protections for content creators in this sector?

Additional to clarify:

I'm using the term top female streamer her due to the context that she is a fairly high up there in terms of earnings for streamers overall but oddly not that high I think she's like maybe in the top 20 for money at best but is one of the top female streamers on Twitch (I think she's like 2nd highest earning woman streamer or something)

 

[CriticalGaming]

So this has to be manufactored drama right?

Her marriage status was revealed years ago when she got in trouble for taking "boyfriend applications" while being married the whole fucking time. So her having a husband shouldn't be a shock to people in 2022.

Amouranth also isn't a stupid person, so this is either drama for the sake of drama and attention to her content. Or if it is real then she signed one hardcore pre-nuptial agreement. I mean she has "fuck you" money so getting a lawyer shouldn't be a big deal and being divorced and single would be a huge boost to her Onlyfans payers.

A lot of this doesn't make any logical sense to me for why either person would stick around in this kind of environment especially when money isn't an issue. I'm a bit more sympathetic when people are poor and have nowhere to go so they'll put up with scumbags because there isn't much choice. That isn't the case here surely again because she has enough money to easily live independently without a struggle.

So I dunno about this, it smells fishy and unbelievable to me.

 

[Chimpzy]

As mentioned in the movie/tv news thread, under the assumption even half of it is true, that's not a husband. That's more like a pimp. Tho it should not really come as a big surprise. Abuse and coercion is quite endemic to sex work after all, the most notable thing here that someone so high profile is a victim of it. Lots of sex workers have flocked to Onlyfans because it offers them a way to earn without any middlemen (save for the site, I assume it takes a small cut), but there really never was anything preventing abusive shit.

Apparently she's been MIA ever since that cut stream. Considering the threats of violence, going public like she has might offer some protection, in the sense that should anything happen to her the husband would be suspect nr 1, but that won't matter much in the moment. Also, that "have you taken your meds" in the last video, and her subsequent reaction, strikes me as odd. Might indicate at least some of her staff are complicit.

Ideally, authorities should come in and regulate this stuff, but I wouldn't hold out too much, since it's always complicated when it involves anything online and international, and doubly so when concerning sex workers, whose plight is often met with a loud "who cares, fuck those thots", and lots of victim blaming.

A lot of this doesn't make any logical sense to me for why either person would stick around in this kind of environment especially when money isn't an issue. I'm a bit more sympathetic when people are poor and have nowhere to go so they'll put up with scumbags because there isn't much choice. That isn't the case here surely again because she has enough money to easily live independently without a struggle.

"Why don't they just leave" is never quite so easy and clear cut in abusive relationships, especially when the abuser is family or a loved one who is supposed to care about you. That shit messes with your head. As for money, if the husband does control the accounts as claimed, then no, she can't just money the problem away, since he can just cut her off and take it. Won't prevent her lawyering up and sueing to get it back, but that of course takes time.

We'll have to see how this develops.

 

[CriticalGaming]

We'll have to see how this develops.

One of her claims strikes me at really odd.

She claimed that her husband forced her to act single and do hottub streams, but this is a problem for a couple of reasons.

1. She acts like revealing she is married is just now some revelation when people have known she was married for years now.

2. She got in trouble for taking boyfriend applications when people found out she was married. Her husband has even accidentally walked in on her streams several times.

You're right this does sound like a pimp/whore relationship more than a marriage which I still think is a strange revelation to have suddenly now.

I think what's confusing me on this more than anything is the obvious lies she is saying during this. That's what's got me on the fence of this not being quite real, because it's got plot holes.

And i have never once watched Amouranth or anything like that. What i know of her is from LivestreamFails, clips, and a few articles. The fact that I KNOW about her marriage years and years before hottub streaming was a thing, and the fact that I can see her lying in this makes me super super sus because i don't know shit about her. I can't imagine what someone who's followed her religiously might pick out in all of this.

 

[Eacaraxe]

This is squarely in "trust but verify" territory for me.

Main reason for that is she has a very strong, very well-known, tendency towards dumb influencer bullshit and stupid publicity stunts, then playing the victim card so third-wavers come running to the defense when called out. That this happens hot on the heels of the TwitchCon fiascos, where all eyes went to Adriana Chechik have been there since, hasn't been lost on me. Last, all this fits into the SWERF collective hallucination of what online sex trafficking is, a little too perfectly.

 

[Generals]

So the main bit.

So topics this actually brings up

Has the modern "Boob streamer" trend opened up a horrifying new potential area for abuse and what I'd consider exploitation especially with stuff like the Onlyfans links and other stuff being connected to Twitch streamers and the Twitch part being almost just advertising for behind the scenes stuff?

How the hell do you deal with exploitation and abuse like this when the area of work isn't illegal so law enforcement don't have involvement but there's also so very little in terms of protections for content creators in this sector?

Additional to clarify:

I'm using the term top female streamer her due to the context that she is a fairly high up there in terms of earnings for streamers overall but oddly not that high I think she's like maybe in the top 20 for money at best but is one of the top female streamers on Twitch (I think she's like 2nd highest earning woman streamer or something)

Assuming this is all true:

I don't think this actually brings up any new kind of topic. This falls well within the typical "psychologically and financially abusive" relationship topic, I am not really sure if her "job(s)" is really relevant here. Her husband would have been abusive regardless of profession.
As for law enforcement protection it's actually a good thing what she does is legal. Working in illegality is usually a reason which incites people NOT to report abuse as they would have to admit they committed a crime themselves.

 

[Silvanus]

pimp/whore relationship

Uhrm, can we maybe not do this?

 

[McElroy]

Some parasocial drama, huh. I'll let her simp army deal with this while content hoggers analyze things from the sidelines. And I can read the final verdict in a reddit thread.

Low personal opinion on online "thots" notwithstanding... no wait... I actually don't have any sympathy for her xD. I do like the animal shelter idea, so if she eventually gets that done it's not all bad. And don't get me wrong: no endorsement for the husband's shenanigans either, whatever they total to.

 

[Elijin]

This topic about claims of domestic abuse became pretty disgusting pretty quickly.

 

[CriticalGaming]

Assuming this is all true:

I don't think this actually brings up any new kind of topic. This falls well within the typical "psychologically and financially abusive" relationship topic, I am not really sure if her "job(s)" is really relevant here. Her husband would have been abusive regardless of profession.
As for law enforcement protection it's actually a good thing what she does is legal. Working in illegality is usually a reason which incites people NOT to report abuse as they would have to admit they committed a crime themselves.

Which highlights why she has no excuse to go to the police about this if it's not only true, but she also has a phone filled with proof.

Even if she splits and homeboy takes every dime from her. All she needs is a new Paypal account (easy) and her OF page will hand her over a Mill within 30 days. So what's exactly the problem?

 

[Eacaraxe]

As for law enforcement protection it's actually a good thing what she does is legal. Working in illegality is usually a reason which incites people NOT to report abuse as they would have to admit they committed a crime themselves.

Sadly, the most likely outcome to this is a greater push to crack down on online sex work. This situation is practically tailor-made for the SWERF/evangelical alliance to escalate attacks against the FAANG's over sexualized content. Don't forget Twitch is an Amazon subsidiary, which gave it substantial leeway to weather the storm while other platforms faltered or had to completely redesign their business models to cater to SESTA/FOSTA and payment processors. Hell, my personal belief is FAANG's and the financial sectors behind them, weaponized anti-SW groups to engage in monopolistic trade practices.

Twitch never should have tread down that path from the beginning, but it did, and here we are.

 

[meiam]

I don't really get the threat to "leave her with only 1 mil". Is this one of those "how much can a banana cost?" situation and she think a millions is worth like 10$ ? It sucks if he takes her money and all, but it's not like she'd be dying in the street and it should be pretty trivial for her to get it all back in a divorce.

 

[CriticalGaming]

I don't really get the threat to "leave her with only 1 mil". Is this one of those "how much can a banana cost?" situation and she think a millions is worth like 10$ ? It sucks if he takes her money and all, but it's not like she'd be dying in the street and it should be pretty trivial for her to get it all back in a divorce.

Yeah that's strange to me, especially when she will still have her fans giving her money in any number of ways. She could loose every dime she has currently and be fine in a couple days.

 

[Generals]

Which highlights why she has no excuse to go to the police about this if it's not only true, but she also has a phone filled with proof.

Even if she splits and homeboy takes every dime from her. All she needs is a new Paypal account (easy) and her OF page will hand her over a Mill within 30 days. So what's exactly the problem?

What do you mean "has no excuse"? Abusive relationships are notoriously hard to get out of due to several psychological mechanism.
While I have no direct experience that seems to be the general consensus among specialists. It really isn't about money...

 

[Elijin]

CG pretty regularly demonstrates an inability to grasp human emotions as they relate to other humans.

 

[CriticalGaming]

Abusive relationships are notoriously hard to get out of due to several psychological mechanism.

IIRC isn't this usually because the person doing the abusing has control over the partner. Usually in lifestyle control, like she can't leave him because otherwise she has no place to live and no family to go to so she deals with the trama in order to keep a roof over her head and possible keep children in her life. Or any sort of situation like that.

In Amouranth's case, she's got seemingly very little to lose. She has a huge money making potential. She's got a huge public watching eye on her, that does offer some protection in case homeboy tries anything. And even her coming out about this on livestream shows that she is mentally capable of escaping him. The question is, why do this on a life stream and not for the police?

I am in no means blaming her, nor am I trying to excuse her husband if this behavior is true. I'm just questioning the events based on her background of manipulative bullshit with her audience. The way she has revealed this information feels manipulative of her audience, instead of a legit confession or plea for help. Maybe it's true and he's got her brain all scrambled and all she can think about is hottubs and serving him, maybe.

 

[Dreiko]

I may be too old for this cause I'm confused. Why is she talking about such matters on stream publicly? Can't she afford a therapist with her million of dollars? I can't see such an act having good results.


Anyhow, I don't see how this opens up a new vector for abuse, pimps were always regarded unfavorably and this is just a modern form of whoring and the ills that befall such a profession have been long-established. About the only person I could see be somehow harmed in an original way here is the simp who actually thinks his whore is single and just his own, whereas the traditional johns had no illusions of purity in their heads. Clearly there have to be tons of these people for the pimp in this case to be so adamant against revealing that she's married, to the point of cornering her so much.

 

[CriticalGaming]

Anyhow, I don't see how this opens up a new vector for abuse, pimps were always regarded unfavorably and this is just a modern form of whoring and the ills that befall such a profession have been long-established. About the only person I could see be somehow harmed in an original way here is the simp who actually thinks his whore is single and just his own, whereas the traditional johns had no illusions of purity in their heads. Clearly there have to be tons of these people for the pimp in this case to be so adamant against revealing that she's married, to the point of cornering her so much.

This highlights why I had such a problem with hot tub streaming on Twitch to begin with. It's not good for the women and it's not good for the audience who would obsess over her, thinking she is something she's not.

I may be too old for this cause I'm confused. Why is she talking about such matters on stream publicly? Can't she afford a therapist with her million of dollars? I can't see such an act having good results.

I'm just asking these questions myself. I don't want to deny her abuse allegations, I'm just questioning the fishy nature in which she presented them. That's all. But either way the situation is fucked up because either she is a victim of abuse, OR she is abusing and manipulating her audience. Either way it's wrong and fucked up.

Here is another theory. She wants to retire from streaming and get into other things like business ownership and the like. In order to do that you need investors. Investors are going to see her online past and shady behavior. So what's the solution, well you claim an abusive relationship and that you were forced into doing all of that stuff and suddenly it all stops being your fault and can't be held against you. Clearing her name so to speak so that her past can't be used to deny her future investment.

Again Amouranth is not a stupid person. She's very smart and been very savy with her brand and image online. So either that has all been built up in a nearly decade long manipulation by her husband, OR there is more to what's happening here.

 

[Dreiko]

This highlights why I had such a problem with hot tub streaming on Twitch to begin with. It's not good for the women and it's not good for the audience who would obsess over her, thinking she is something she's not.



I'm just asking these questions myself. I don't want to deny her abuse allegations, I'm just questioning the fishy nature in which she presented them. That's all. But either way the situation is fucked up because either she is a victim of abuse, OR she is abusing and manipulating her audience. Either way it's wrong and fucked up.

Here is another theory. She wants to retire from streaming and get into other things like business ownership and the like. In order to do that you need investors. Investors are going to see her online past and shady behavior. So what's the solution, well you claim an abusive relationship and that you were forced into doing all of that stuff and suddenly it all stops being your fault and can't be held against you. Clearing her name so to speak so that her past can't be used to deny her future investment.

Again Amouranth is not a stupid person. She's very smart and been very savy with her brand and image online. So either that has all been built up in a nearly decade long manipulation by her husband, OR there is more to what's happening here.

I don't even think it's fishy at all, just fundamentally pathological to broadcast private issues like that to the public as a way of getting pity or attention as if that'd fix the problem or help in any way.


And I think both can happen at the same time, she is abusing and fooling her audience, while she herself is being abused by her pimp/husband.

 

[Baffle]

I don't even think it's fishy at all, just fundamentally pathological to broadcast private issues like that to the public as a way of getting pity or attention as if that'd fix the problem or help in any way.

Are you the guy that used to talk about his mum's boobs like all the time?