The AP Interview: Pope says homosexuality not a crime
Pope Francis has criticized laws that criminalize homosexuality as “unjust,” saying God loves all his children just as they are.
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I don't think there is such a thing.Baby steps towards becoming a humane religion.
Oh, they've hated him since he started. Bastard doesn't want secular authorities enforcing church law, he's basically a communist [/sarcasm]Republicans accusing the Pope of "going woke" in 3, 2, 1....
Yes, nothing actually changed. Francis is not actually someone who pushes reforms all that much.Not a crime, still a sin. So nothing actually changed from before. Moving on.
Pretty new within the history of the Church. Lest we forget that Ratzinger called homosexuality a tendency towards an "intrinsic moral evil", that people had "no conceivable right" to be gay, and that its practice can be "legitimately limited"-- an essential endorsement of legal restrictions.Nothing new here, the news is stupid.
His hands are also somewhat tied. The mere appointment of a Latin-American Pope was a paradigm-shattering nightmare for a great many North American and European Catholics, who had no choice but to acknowledge the existence of a Latin-American church. Forget the reality that North American and European Catholicism was no longer a majority, and hadn't been for some time. "Radical" concepts like liberation theology (surprise, Catholics are as loathe to actually read and understand the Bible as Protestants) would almost certainly be enough to prompt another great schism.Yes, nothing actually changed. Francis is not actually someone who pushes reforms all that much.
Wow. Such progress.Oh yeah, he's still bog-standard Catholic with regards to acting gay or trans or whatever, Pope Francis is just in the "non-Catholics don't have to follow Catholic rules" camp.
Which makes him very progressive...for a Pope
In a wide variety of "coincidences", the church I went to growing up in Montana was big on liberation theology until Ratzinger, who's selection also coincided with me leaving the church shortly thereafter. In addition to the scandals of the time, the vibes went rancidAlso liberation theology is not nearly as divisive as you seem to think. It was a bit different in the past. But now, if there comes another shism, it will be about something very different.
Yeah, but is it, really?It is a tad more complex than that.
...within the safe, comforting confines of postwar neoliberalism, sure. But we'll come back to that in a second.First, Europe is not exactly a bastion of conservatism in the Catholic church. They have their own and quite influential reform movements.
Hence my statement that Francis is not a liberation theologist, but heavily influenced by it.Second, Francis is quite progressive only on some topics but pretty backward on others, even for an old Catholic priest.
In the past as in 2013, when Francis became Pope? Or, are we talking "in the past" as in 1983, when the Catholic Church did everything but outright declare as heretical, and stayed quiet on the political persecution of, liberation theology and liberation theologists? Because, I bring up '83 because that was specifically the year the Roman Curia condemned liberation theology as a Marxist corruption of Catholic dogma, and an attempt by Marxists to infiltrate and coopt the Catholic church.Also liberation theology is not nearly as divisive as you seem to think. It was a bit different in the past.
In all seriousness, I'm fairly certain this'll be what -- if anything -- does it.But now, if there comes another shism, it will be about something very different.