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You're under the impression they need all of that to do their job. Let me know when there is a essential/critical/important function NOAA is not able to do anymore. Is it really that hard to tell me this important XYZ thing is no longer being done at NOAA?
This like when Trump fucked around with traffic controllers and this immediately lead to the first major crash in 16 years which he blamed on everyone else

Even if we bring you facts, you will pretend they don't exist. Like every other discussion you have with everyone here.

Stop being fake and lying all the time.
 

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In Canada we are really confused by what is going on. There was this big lead up to the tariff war. Trump seemed so set on going that way and everyone was preparing ( I have clients who sell to the US and others who buy and all were scrambling). Then two days later, it is all suspended after Trump talked to the leaders of Canada and Mexico and they promised him to do exactly what they were already going to do. Did we win or is Trump simply going to use it as an excuse to invade Canada?
Asking the internet why all the things the internet told you are wrong now is unlikely to lead to a satisfying conclusion.
 

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Trump and Musk have no idea what Free Speech means. That's the problem. They both have social media platforms that bans people and bans specific words
Same thing happened beforehand on social media platforms. That's why I said it should be public owned.

This like when Trump fucked around with traffic controllers and this immediately lead to the first major crash in 16 years which he blamed on everyone else

Even if we bring you facts, you will pretend they don't exist. Like every other discussion you have with everyone here.

Stop being fake and lying all the time.
I don't really follow stories so close to when they happened because I like waiting for all the info to come out. I'm doubting Trump or Biden or DEI caused the crash, I'm guessing it's a bunch of people's faults.
 

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My guess? Trump is hoping people won't realize that they are simply sticking to the promises they had already made and will be able to spin this as him convincing Canada/Mexico to bend to his whims.
I suspect this.

Alternatively, perhaps he expected them to roll over and agree to his demands, and when they didn't, had to find some demands that they would agree to so he looks like a winner.

I'd not be surprised if he tried again later, though, so keeping buying local would be my advice.
 

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You're under the impression they need all of that to do their job. Let me know when there is a essential/critical/important function NOAA is not able to do anymore. Is it really that hard to tell me this important XYZ thing is no longer being done at NOAA?
It is possible that there are things that could be cut at various departments without any reduction in their functionality. Seeing how the website formerly known as Twitter functioned after Musk took it over I don't trust any judgment call made on Musk's behalf in that regard.
 

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I'm sure the good reverend will treat all faiths equally.

No worries. Private, profit-motivated orgs like the Cha Zuckerberg Initiative will pick up the slack.

Enjoy the enshittification

 
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Some interesting self reflection from a somewhat liberal cult researcher/reporter. Mildly frustrating to think back at all the attempts at warning people were brushed off but is helpful to understand where blind spots were for others who have their own lenses. Cause ultimately, when the shit hits the fan, having as little bad blood between different peeps as poss is gonna be integral to resistance and cooperation.

In the spring of 2017, Jordan Peterson first went viral by writing this in Canada’s National Post:

I will never use words I hate, like the trendy and artificially constructed words “zhe” and “zher.” These words are at the vanguard of a post-modern, radical leftist ideology that I detest, and which is, in my professional opinion, frighteningly similar to the Marxist doctrines that killed at least 100 million people in the 20th century.

Remember that horseshit, or things like it? Did you guffaw because he was obviously absurd? Did you try to reason with his stans online? Did you see him as a crank influencer, or a dangerous political figure?

Did you hope his ideas would be beaten down in the marketplace of ideas? Or did you seek him out at a public event and shout him down with a bullhorn?

Today, word salad like this is everywhere—including in Project 2025, now driving the Trump admin.

Matthew visits the antifascist woodshed to investigate the liberal manners, free speech naivety, and lack of community alliances that dissuaded him from grabbing the mic during a Peterson Q&A in 2017 and shouting:

“Your ideas are fascist and you should STFU. You are endangering trans people with your bullshit. Why do you care about how they experience their bodies, you whining pervert? Why are you inciting hatred against young people who want a better world?”

Because… look where we are now.

Show Notes

Read the Memo Pausing Federal Grants and Loans - The New York Times

President George H.W. Bush on political correctness (1991)

The History of Political Correctness—Lind

The Pitfalls of Liberalism — Kwame Ture

The Forgotten History of the World's First Trans Clinic | Scientific American

Jordan Peterson: The right to be politically incorrect | National Post

Bill C-16, An Act to amend the Canadian Human Rights Act and the Criminal Code (gender identity or expression)

Jordan Peterson is trying to make sense of the world — including his own strange journey

Postmodern Neo-Marxism — Jordan Peterson’s Shadow

Doug Ford met Jordan Peterson, appointment calendar reveals | CBC News

Why are the Proud Boys so violent? Ask Gavin McInnes — SPLC

Jordan Peterson revealed he once earned $400,000 a month

Antifa by Mark Bray
 
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This like when Trump fucked around with traffic controllers and this immediately lead to the first major crash in 16 years which he blamed on everyone else
Hey! Hey! Hey! Lets not be unfair to Trump. He didn't blame ''everyone else''. He just blamed the pilot for *checks notes*.....being black!
 

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This like when Trump fucked around with traffic controllers and this immediately lead to the first major crash in 16 years which he blamed on everyone else
While the actions he took (like disbanding the Aviation Security Advisory Committee, or offering payouts for staff to leave) were moronic and could arguably make things less safe in future, there's not really any credible link between those actions and the 29th Jan crash. There simply wasn't time for those actions to have affected the staff or training or anything else-- 8 days? 9?
 

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Trump signed the Aviation EO on Jan 21st, and the crash was Jan 29th, no?
The Aviation Security Advisory Commission was to advise the TSA, not Air Traffic Control. They don't impact things in the air, their advice was on what to do before people/cargo even get near the planes, and they certainly had no impact on a helicopter crashing into a plane. If you shuttered the TSA entirely, it would not increase the likelihood of the military crashing into you.

The offer for people to take the payout was the 28th, if it inspired controllers to ditch work, that could be a theoretical connection, though not one with any specific connecting evidence available.
 
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Trump is complaining about illegal immigrants claiming Social Security benefits, despite the fact that illegal immigrants wouldn't have Social Security numbers.


Calling it now: Social Security will meet the same fate as USAID, with Musk calling it "criminally corrupt" and wiping it out. And Trump will go along.
 
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The constitution was always selectively applied and ignored whenever convenient. Is just now it's in everyone's face and the ppl doing it have no reason to bother dancing the rhetorical dances of justification no more

Does it feel like QAnon-style derangement is in the bloodstream of the highest levels of American political culture?
President Trump’s picks for his cabinet and department heads are going through the Senate confirmation process. And when Trump decided on his nominations he selected some of the deranged freaks who have been previously profiled on this podcast.

Trump is massively expanding the number of inmates in Guantanamo Bay detention camp, promising a “declas” of government documents that will reshape our understanding of history, and purging federal law enforcement of anyone who investigated him and his allies.

Jake, Travis, and Liv unpack some of the ways that Trump’s policies are aligning with the fantasies and hopes of the conspiracist fever swamps.

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Trump’s outsider Cabinet picks are rapidly gaining support for confirmation
https://apnews.com/article/trump-cabinet-confirmation-hearings-e12dcbc5d26d675414331d9a35cab6a6

Trump admin plans to use notorious Guantánamo detention facility and nearby tents to hold immigrants
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/na...tanamo-detention-facility-nearby-t-rcna190707

Trump moves to revoke clearances of ex-intel officials who signed letter on Hunter Biden laptop
https://apnews.com/article/trump-intelligence-hunter-biden-laptop-9d49578c70e3de03e628d0d0cf6592f0

Justice Department orders FBI purge, review of staff who touched Jan. 6 cases
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...s-purge-agents-involved-trump-investigations/

The Young, Inexperienced Engineers Aiding Elon Musk’s Government Takeover
https://archive.vn/HCCA4#selection-559.0-562.0
 

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Elon Musk is demanding the impeachment of the judge who blocked his attempt to get at Treasury records.


Nothing corrupt here, folks. We don't need checks and balances against an unelected billionaire. Just let him do what he wants! He's better than the rest of us, after all.
 

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Calling it now: Social Security will meet the same fate as USAID, with Musk calling it "criminally corrupt" and wiping it out. And Trump will go along.
Musk's already been going on about how there can be more than one account with the same SSN and when there are they can both be paying out at the same time. Which is how the system is designed in the first place - SSN is not unique, and for everyone born before like 2014 the first 5 digits basically spell out where you were born, and the last 4 were just assigned in order counting up. The combination of SSN and name is meant to be unique, but that has had occasional collisions as well because no one was really making sure of that for most of the history of Social Security.