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So that's why he 'wants' Greenland. It's a new Cold War against China, and Russia in the Arctic. Sadly, that means climate change is a forgone conclusion after this Cold War, we won't have much of a planet to live on for most of Earth. A sad statement of fact that China, Russia, and the US are picking their nations over fighting climate change, but that's realist geopolitics for you..
Trump was pretty clear in his last term that the earth heating up would be an economic boon. The North West passage is one of the Holy Grails they are looking foe

When people like this say the green technology is economically unviable, they do not mean that green technology costs too much. They mean they can't find another route to ship goods
 
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If I were a 66% trade dependent country like South Africa, I wouldn't have my ambassador's mouth off at the American President whose sitting on a giant pile of energy resources. Also maybe I would ask the FBI for help with corruption. What a stupid decision, he better be getting something for it from Russia, Iran, or OPEC+ in general. Let the activist and internet commenters mouth off on Trump, and stay out of it.
 

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I hate this idea that the US is just so awesome that we're being nice by not dragging down the countries who don't play nice with us. That's the kind of thinking that leads to people like Trump throwing their words around and trying to bully everyone that doesn't fall in line with their emperor ways.
 
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Or people don't like that "resistance". Decreasing illegal border crossing is something 80% of Americans are strongly on board with. Acting as the resistance to policies that accomplish that should be political suicide.
 

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Or people don't like that "resistance". Decreasing illegal border crossing is something 80% of Americans are strongly on board with. Acting as the resistance to policies that accomplish that should be political suicide.
Green card holders should have the same rights as Americans when it comes to speech...



This one is the dumbest order of it all. A fucking doctor got deported when healthcare in the US already suffers due to a lack of trained personnel.

 
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Green card holders should have the same rights as Americans when it comes to speech...



This one is the dumbest order of it all. A fucking doctor got deported when healthcare in the US already suffers due to a lack of trained personnel.

The dumbest deportation is the person who left the country to support Hezbollah? That's quite the take.
 

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The dumbest deportation is the person who left the country to support Hezbollah? That's quite the take.
There were literally Irish/EU citizens there as well. The Irish government themselves support Palestine should they/the EU kick them out of the EU. Plus it was a funeral we won.
 
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Or people don't like that "resistance". Decreasing illegal border crossing is something 80% of Americans are strongly on board with. Acting as the resistance to policies that accomplish that should be political suicide.
It's rarely that simple. Many of these sorts of polls can be quite blunt tools, because they hide all sorts of conditions and assumptions, values and priorities.

So for instance 80% want fewer border crossings, okay. But if you told them it was going to cost over $1 trillion, you might find that percentage drops. US citizens start getting hauled in and harassed, the percentage might drop further. The country starts breaking the law to deport people, or deporting people it turns out it absolutely shouldn't, the percentage might drop further. Deport people but you also have to put up with all the other stuff the Republicans do, the percentage might drop again.

In other words, you might find that impressive figure has substantially less importance than you suppose, and mounting a thorough "resistance" to Trump a much bigger vote-winner.

Although that said, I don't think the Democratic Party has the institutional mindset or nature to act as a "resistance", and it would take substantial, long-term reforms to get them there.
 
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Because they aren't resisting due to the rich being in alignment with the new admin's ideas.
That's always been the case. The democrats run on something and don't do it, blame the republicans for blocking them. The republicans run on something and don't do it (several republicans are pointing that out now that nothing is actually being done when they have control), blame the democrats for blocking them. This is why the democrats will say "we need a strong republican party" because both sides want each side strong enough so they don't gain a large majority so they can always use the Scooby Doo defense of "if it wasn't for those meddling kids..."


This one is the dumbest order of it all. A fucking doctor got deported when healthcare in the US already suffers due to a lack of trained personnel.

Looks like it was probably a valid deportation. When the client's lawyers 'nope' out of the case, it's usually a sign that there's no chance to win.
On Sunday night, Alawieh’s attorneys withdrew as her counsel “as a result of further diligence”
 

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In other words, you might find that impressive figure has substantially less importance than you suppose, and mounting a thorough "resistance" to Trump a much bigger vote-winner.
A thorough resistance to Trump is exactly why nobody likes them right now. Certainly there's 20% democrat partisans who go down with the ship and 20% partisan Republicans they can never win over, but the other 60% could be swayed and aren't interested in "resist Trump" as a party platform. True left wingers want ideological stances that don't change depending on what Trump says he wants. Moderates what politicians capable of compromise. "Thorough resistance" is not a big tent; outside of online cess pools, there aren't that many people who would forego their own beliefs and desires in pursuit of spiting Trump.
 

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That's always been the case. The democrats run on something and don't do it, blame the republicans for blocking them. The republicans run on something and don't do it (several republicans are pointing that out now that nothing is actually being done when they have control), blame the democrats for blocking them. This is why the democrats will say "we need a strong republican party" because both sides want each side strong enough so they don't gain a large majority so they can always use the Scooby Doo defense of "if it wasn't for those meddling kids..."



Looks like it was probably a valid deportation. When the client's lawyers 'nope' out of the case, it's usually a sign that there's no chance to win.
On Sunday night, Alawieh’s attorneys withdrew as her counsel “as a result of further diligence”
We protected the speech of Nazis, and the KKK before, but somehow an angry Lebanese doctor is where we draw down the line. By the way, I despise Hezabollah; their predecessor org killed US peacekeepers and got the US out of the UN because of it which led to a more dangerous world, and a more defunded UN in the 1980s.
 

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We protected the speech of Nazis, and the KKK before, but somehow an angry Lebanese doctor is where we draw down the line. By the way, I despise Hezabollah; their predecessor org killed US peacekeepers and got the US out of the UN because of it which led to a more dangerous world, and a more defunded UN in the 1980s.
If her lawyers dropped her case, don't you think there's more to this?
 

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True left wingers want ideological stances that don't change depending on what Trump says he wants. Moderates what politicians capable of compromise. "Thorough resistance" is not a big tent; outside of online cess pools, there aren't that many people who would forego their own beliefs and desires in pursuit of spiting Trump.
Its not like Trump has ever been known for his willingness to compromise or even work with the other side in general. Had that been the issue Trump wouldn't have won or even be a serious contender. Besides what's there to compromise with? Let Trump betray Europe and scheme to do harm to Canada on Monday to Friday, but have the US act like a legitimate state in the weekends? Or have Musk do the extreme harm he promises but have him dress up in a suit while he's doing it? Or have him pardon the coup doing traitors but go on record saying they were naughty boys and that Biden really did win?

Forgoing beliefs and desires in pursuit of spiting Trump isn't really required if Trump by his very nature is a threat to all those beliefs and desires. If rule of law and safety net for the lower and middle classes are among those desires and beliefs then Trump simply has nothing to offer. There's very little a left winger or centrist can find in Trump except maybe migration and even then the whole spiel of acting like migrants are vermin rather than just a problem might be a turn off.

You don't get left wing outcomes by letting Musk gut the state and transfer the loot to the upper class.
 

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Its not like Trump has ever been known for his willingness to compromise or even work with the other side in general.
His cabinet has multiple former Democratic presidential candidates in it.

And to the rest of your post, I covered online cesspools.
 

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His cabinet has multiple former Democratic presidential candidates in it.

And to the rest of your post, I covered online cesspools.
Democrats in names only. Democrats who always aligned with Republican or even Russian stances. Democrats who always considered Trump's enemies the greater evil...for some reason. Not much compromising required there.

And is a typical left leaning person not liking Musk gutting the state or a centrist not liking how Trump schemes to do harm to American allies ''an online cesspool?''