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crimson5pheonix

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Second Amendment will win. If I'll grant the gun lobby anything, it's that they hate pretty much any restriction on gun ownership more than they hate any demographic.
It should be noted as Davidmc alluded to, gun rights were explicitly limited in California (by then governor Reagan and the NRA no less) when the Black Panthers started carrying guns. The 2nd amendment is a prop to empower white men first. As soon as it empowers anyone else or threatens them, it's discarded like used tissue paper.
 

Agema

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I'm not so sure you're right about that. It is downright amazing how quickly the right to bear arms gets limited when marginal groups want guns. Open carry laws have been quickly suspended and removed the moment that African American groups began exercising those rights.

I honestly think the fear of the """"other"""" will win out here. It will be VERY selectively applied to make certain that only trans people are affected by the limitations, of course.
Back in the 60s, sure.

But in the 1970s the NRA radicalised into the gun lobby we have today, which has become extremely defensive about any restraint on gun ownership. I think they would be inclined to resist any restraint, if for no other reason than it would start a slippery slope and set a precedent that could be expanded.

I believe there are laws restricting gun access to the mentally ill in some states, however. Maybe the DoJ can look at a way to declare all transgender people mentally ill.
 

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I don't even know what you doing there. I didn't inflate anything by 15 times.
Can you actually read the words to which you're responding, please? I didn't just say you inflated it "by 15 times", as if you multiplied the whole sample by 15. I said you inflated it by 15 times the hospitalised subgroup.

The hospitalised subgroup was ~230k. You inflated by 4 million. 4 million is over 15 x 230k.

It's a made up number. Who didn't get exposed to covid in those 4 years? It has to be at least 95% of adolescents.
...which would mean 4 million didn't get it.

The eligible patients were from 63 hospitals, that doesn't mean the registry they searched didn't include more hospitals. The US has about 7,000 hospitals and if you got 3,600 severe adolescent covid patients from 63 hospitals, you'd have 400K with severe covid from all 7,000 hospitals assuming the 63 were taken at random, and that can't be true because you only had 234,000 total hospitalized from that group.
No, it wouldn't mean that at all. Why would you assume all hospitals experienced uniform numbers? Regardless of urban/rural, size, locale, type of hospital etc? That's absurd.

The only point you need to take away is that 3,600 is but a tiny fraction of severe, acute covid cases in that group.

I didn't...
Your literal words were, "it doesn't wane for normal people". I'm so fucking sick of you endlessly trying to weasel away from the bullshit you come out with, rather than simply acknowledging when its clear its untrue.

That isn't the stat. That's your chance of getting from the vaccine. You'd have to compare that to your chance of getting it from covid.
It is the stat. Its the stat quoted in your own fucking source that started all this. The chance for myocarditis from the virus, for the healthy adolescent group, is 0.0010%. The chance for (milder) myocarditis from the vaccine in that group is 0.0015%.

That makes a difference of 0.0005%. If the entire adolescent population of the US had the same vaccine, that comes to 370.

That. Is. The. Stat. That's the tiny, negligible
risk you've been whining about for dozens and dozens of pages: 370 out of 75 million. That's the risk you want to prioritise over the thousands upon thousands of severe, acute covid cases ending up in the ICU.
 

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Hmm, you don't say. I also like that the headline changed since.
 

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I'm not so sure you're right about that. It is downright amazing how quickly the right to bear arms gets limited when marginal groups want guns. Open carry laws have been quickly suspended and removed the moment that African American groups began exercising those rights.

I honestly think the fear of the """"other"""" will win out here. It will be VERY selectively applied to make certain that only trans people are affected by the limitations, of course.
But the states that don't allow open carry or have restrictions on it are mainly blue states? The states with no open carry are California, Florida, New York, and Illinois. I thought the red states were the racist states? But they have the least restrictions.

 

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trouble in paradise, alex jones and the other one, uhh, Owen's split not so smoothly, alex has crashout in his typical half-performative but definitely a significant half not performative style, including his weird hog snort-growling he seems to think is so cool and manly and totes Christian good guy shit
2 hour 15 seems the point of noticeable escalation for those who have lives n shit to live
In this installment, Dan and Jordan review the tape of Alex's response to Owen Shroyer's "Why I Left Infowars" video, which ends up involving a rampage through three different shows on September 2.
zoomer edit version, not as up to date or thorough of course


Rubin is legitimately dumber than you or I or even his mother suspected, he manages to exceed idiocy with every new appearance. and no not just cos of his alleged politics, I mean he is straight up a couple of psychology sessions short of a learning disability diagnosis, a few missing warning labels short of a Darwin award encore, a neglected handbrake short of an untimely final destination escape

the time has come, the inevitable has arrived

 

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Can you actually read the words to which you're responding, please? I didn't just say you inflated it "by 15 times", as if you multiplied the whole sample by 15. I said you inflated it by 15 times the hospitalised subgroup.

The hospitalised subgroup was ~230k. You inflated by 4 million. 4 million is over 15 x 230k.



...which would mean 4 million didn't get it.



No, it wouldn't mean that at all. Why would you assume all hospitals experienced uniform numbers? Regardless of urban/rural, size, locale, type of hospital etc? That's absurd.

The only point you need to take away is that 3,600 is but a tiny fraction of severe, acute covid cases in that group.



Your literal words were, "it doesn't wane for normal people". I'm so fucking sick of you endlessly trying to weasel away from the bullshit you come out with, rather than simply acknowledging when its clear its untrue.



It is the stat. Its the stat quoted in your own fucking source that started all this. The chance for myocarditis from the virus, for the healthy adolescent group, is 0.0010%. The chance for (milder) myocarditis from the vaccine in that group is 0.0015%.

That makes a difference of 0.0005%. If the entire adolescent population of the US had the same vaccine, that comes to 370.

That. Is. The. Stat. That's the tiny, negligible
risk you've been whining about for dozens and dozens of pages: 370 out of 75 million. That's the risk you want to prioritise over the thousands upon thousands of severe, acute covid cases ending up in the ICU.
What does it matter that 4 million is 15 x 230K? I did the math and the number hardly changes when you go from 74 million to 70 million, and you're complaining about that for some reason.

I'm just saying that even if you took only from the 63 biggest hospitals, you're not going to get to 3,600 cases of severe covid in adolescents.

Just stop with the fucking bullshit. This whole thread of the argument started essentially here. You've made a ton of claims that are full of bullshit that you never admit to. In the very link to your post, you say immunity wanes after infection 3-4 months later, not true. You say the vaccine reduces the risk of severe illness (if you had covid), not true (and I doubt there's even a study done on this to even remotely prove your claim). You said the bullshit claim of covid caused arrhythmia being 40x more common than vaccine induced myocarditis, not even close to true (how you got 40x is beyond me). By saying immunity doesn't wane, I'm saying that in the PAST when covid vaccines and boosters were being forced, a lot of people didn't need them. And presently, they still don't. Just because I didn't put said qualifier in for 20 years in the future or something doesn't make what I said wrong.

Oh, I thought the 0.0005% was just the chance. If this is as tiny and negligible as you say, why have doctors from countries recommended to not recommend the vaccines/boosters to this group? Covid to this group is already a tiny, negligible risk to begin with and I believe the flu is actually more dangerous to this group. Why is the flu vaccine then not forced to kids? Also, kids are the primary driver of the flu whereas they hardly drive covid infections. Why is the flu vaccine not forced when that would do more overall benefit to society and the covid vaccine was forced when it does less benefit to society?
 

crimson5pheonix

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Back in the 60s, sure.

But in the 1970s the NRA radicalised into the gun lobby we have today, which has become extremely defensive about any restraint on gun ownership. I think they would be inclined to resist any restraint, if for no other reason than it would start a slippery slope and set a precedent that could be expanded.

I believe there are laws restricting gun access to the mentally ill in some states, however. Maybe the DoJ can look at a way to declare all transgender people mentally ill.
Y'know, fair's fair. Agema called it.

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"Uh, actually guys, he was super-secret undercover the whole time, and we're only claiming this now, because, uh, special reasons."



House Speaker Mike Johnson has revealed that President Donald Trump was once an 'FBI informant' in relation to Jeffrey Epstein's illegal activities.

Johnson made the stunning comments in the halls of Congress on Friday after being pressed by CNN's Manu Raju about Trump routinely calling the Epstein files controversy a Democrat-invented 'hoax'.

'What Trump is referring to is the hoax that the Democrats are using to try to attack him,' Johnson said. 'I’ve talked to him about this many times, many times. He is horrified. It’s been misrepresented. He’s not saying that what Epstein did is a hoax. It’s a terrible, unspeakable evil. He believes that himself.'

'When he first heard the rumor, he kicked him out of Mar-a-Lago. He was an FBI informant to try to take this stuff down,' added Johnson, which now raises new questions about Trump's relationship with Epstein.

 

Agema

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'When he first heard the rumor, he kicked him out of Mar-a-Lago. He was an FBI informant to try to take this stuff down,' added Johnson, which now raises new questions about Trump's relationship with Epstein.
As day after day goes by, the leaders of Western civilisation seem intent on demonstrating that it doesn't deserve to survive.
 

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"Uh, actually guys, he was super-secret undercover the whole time, and we're only claiming this now, because, uh, special reasons."
Hahahahaha 😂

I expected them to release falsified documents, I didn't expect this blatant a lie from them, wow.
 
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