Uzaki-proportioned existent woman comments on the ongoing controversy.

[Dreiko]

So I just came across this interview and it shines light on this controversy from the perspective of a woman who both exists in reality and looks like a carbon copy of the supposedly-unrealistic Uzaki Hana from the eponymous show.

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They start by going over some basic points of the show and the interviewee's experiences with it and her fandom activities but the latter half is devoted on analyzing the controversy. Very interesting read for fans of the show or for people who were curious about what those twitter folk were going on about!

 

[Iron]

I don't understand the driving force behind this. Is it breast envy?

 

[McElroy]

This stuff will never look good to non-weebs. Even here it's a former porn star who has moved into milking anime fans instead of... y'know.

 

[Iron]

This stuff will never look good to non-weebs. Even here it's a former porn star who has moved into milking anime fans instead of... y'know.

I think this isn't the case

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[Dreiko]

This stuff will never look good to non-weebs. Even here it's a former porn star who has moved into milking anime fans instead of... y'know.

The people complaining are the same people who are against westerner pornstars being seen as less-than or ridiculed in any way, who see prostitution or being a camgirl as empowering.

So I guess the issue is that if you exploit fans for the benefit of the woman it's ok but if it's just making the fans happy in a non-pornographic case (as it is with Uzaki) but because it's an anime character there's no woman benefiting off of the exploitation (outside of the women working on animating and voicing and broadcasting the show, of course, also ladies who like to cosplay like the one in the article), then it's not ok. Something like that maybe?

 

[Silvanus]

So I guess the issue is that if you exploit fans for the benefit of the woman it's ok but if it's just making the fans happy in a non-pornographic case (as it is with Uzaki) but because it's an anime character there's no woman benefiting off of the exploitation (outside of the women working on animating and voicing and broadcasting the show, of course, also ladies who like to cosplay like the one in the article), then it's not ok. Something like that maybe?

From the interview, it sounds like it's more to do with presenting an unrealistic body image as desirable. People levy the same complaints at plenty of airbrushed Western model-shoots, advertising, and pornography; it's not exclusive to anime.

The fact that somebody has that body type is kind of beside the point. Of course some people do really have those hourglass figures. The argument is that if those idealised body types become ubiquitous in what we see (as they are in Western advertising, for instance), and it becomes almost all we see, then it starts to promote unhealthy expectations.

I suspect the argument around Uzaki is partly because she's one of many.

 

[Houseman]

then it starts to promote unhealthy expectations.

Do all the western superhero movies promote unhealthy expectations about being superheros?

 

[Iron]

Do all the western superhero movies promote unhealthy expectations about being superheros?

No, just being ripped.

 

[Houseman]

No, just being ripped.

That must be why incels can't get laid, these movies are promoting unrealistic standards of what a man should look like, so we should #cancel all the marvel and DC movies.

Right?

 

[Dreiko]

From the interview, it sounds like it's more to do with presenting an unrealistic body image as desirable. People levy the same complaints at plenty of airbrushed Western model-shoots, advertising, and pornography; it's not exclusive to anime.

The fact that somebody has that body type is kind of beside the point. Of course some people do really have those hourglass figures. The argument is that if those idealised body types become ubiquitous in what we see (as they are in Western advertising, for instance), and it becomes almost all we see, then it starts to promote unhealthy expectations.

I suspect the argument around Uzaki is partly because she's one of many.

Uzaki's body type is not at all ubiquitous though. If anything it's about as rare as it is in the real world. Usually the large chested chars are taller and curvier and more mature-looking. Not many short-stack tomboy/boyish energetic chars are out there.

 

[Odin]

I had to Google Uzaki and she looks like the head of a seven-year-old boy has been stuck on the body of a big breasted woman. I've seen my share of anime and I'm perfectly used to seeing saucer-eyed waifus but this one just looks uncanny.

 

[Dreiko]

I had to Google Uzaki and she looks like the head of a seven-year-old boy has been stuck on the body of a big breasted woman. I've seen my share of anime and I'm perfectly used to seeing saucer-eyed waifus but this one just looks uncanny.

Right, that's kinda the point, she's not at all ubiquitous. She's a boyish char who is hyper and kind of a trickster with a hot body that she herself is unaware of being hot in the slightest. So you have her being unintentionally alluring during a bunch of comedic moments.

 

[Iron]

That must be why incels can't get laid, these movies are promoting unrealistic standards of what a man should look like, so we should #cancel all the marvel and DC movies.

Right?

Incels can't get laid because they hate themselves.

 

[Houseman]

Incels can't get laid because they hate themselves.

Well, okay, there's that... BUT doesn't it always feel better, and isn't it always easier, to blame something else for your problems instead of looking inward? And we can make it trendy by making up a word that ends with -phobic or -ist! We can say that if you disagree, then you don't stand for equality, and that you're some kind of bad person. I think I'm onto something here, let's keep brainstorming...

 

[Iron]

Well, okay, there's that... BUT doesn't it always feel better, and isn't it always easier, to blame something else for your problems instead of looking inward? And we can make it trendy by making up a word that ends with -phobic or -ist! We can say that if you disagree, then you don't stand for equality, and that you're some kind of bad person. I think I'm onto something here, let's keep brainstorming...

I'm sad they get pushed into doing horrible shit. I'm fairly certain there are still hurt-boxes on the internet where they can congregate.

 

[Dreiko]

Incels can't get laid because they hate themselves.

Incels are like those men going their own way people. They define themselves by the thing they are not rather than things they are.

A negative identification makes the thing you are against control how you see yourself. You're still allowing people who you think are wronging you somehow to have power over how you perceive yourself.


I think these people are all kind of in denial and are crying out for help, because a rational individual who is just "done with women" or whatever won't go on all the time about the things women did to him or to others, he'll be busy doing other stuff and not even thinking about women at all.

 

[Silvanus]

Uzaki's body type is not at all ubiquitous though. If anything it's about as rare as it is in the real world. Usually the large chested chars are taller and curvier and more mature-looking. Not many short-stack tomboy/boyish energetic chars are out there.

I see it really frequently. I mean, the description you gave in the next post-- "hyper and kind of a trickster with a hot body that she herself is unaware of being hot in the slightest" -- that's pretty much what I'd describe if I was asked to come up with a super-stereotypical ecchi character.

I'm not saying this to be down on the medium. I really like a lot of manga & anime.

 

[Dreiko]

I see it really frequently.

I'm not saying this to be down on the medium. I really like a lot of manga & anime.

Are you sure you're not conflating her body type with other generic busty curvy body types? Because while those you do have a lot of, the pettite-but-curvy and with a boyish twist is actually rather uncommon.

 

[Kae]

I just want to say that I don't get it, I kinda feel like everyone involved in this is a complete idiot, both the people against the character and the people strangely obsessed with complaining about those people, to be honest I would've never even heard of the existence of this Uzaki San or whatever her name is if it wasn't for weebs oddly obsessed with complaining that other people are complaining about her existence or whatever.

 

[Iron]

I just want to say that I don't get it, I kinda feel like everyone involved in this is a complete idiot, both the people against the character and the people strangely obsessed with complaining about those people, to be honest I would've never even heard of the existence of this Uzaki San or whatever her name is if it wasn't for weebs oddly obsessed with complaining that other people are complaining about her existence or whatever.

I mean, Nagatoro is better, I don't know why you'd simp over Uzaki.