Funny events in anti-woke world

[Agema]

How is this always a thing? Why is there such a crossover between pedos and libertarians? There's other small/no government ideologies that don't seem to always fall into this. Like Anarchists and Communists can disagree on a lot, but it's usually not about when a child is old enough to have sex with.

I think libertarians are disproportionately male, for a start. This means opinions of women are likely to be relatively weak in their communities.

Secondly, when we think of libertarians, there are a certain traits and associations. Individualism, rugged self-reliance, gun rights etc. all tend to be more common in certain demographics (geographical, political, cultural), and those demographics can have associations with less enlightened viewpoints. Thus I suspect attitudes to women from these may bleed over into libertarianism. Or to put it another way, libertarian contains a load of men relatively poor at relating to and respecting women, so the idea of some weak and submissive pussy that's ideologically justifiable is very attractive to them. Other libertarians meanwhile are more inclusive and have a stronger idea of informed consent as a key basis of libertarian justice and fairness.

 

[Seanchaidh]

Why is there such a crossover between pedos and libertarians?

Libertarians can frame a wish to have sex with children as about the natural right of the child to be able to make their own choices. If libertarians cared about how even nominally voluntary agreements can be coercive, exploitative, or predatory, then they wouldn't be libertarians. It's really quite a natural fit.

 

[TheMysteriousGX]

For the record, there exists a form of classical Libertarianism that isn't represented by these yahoos, but that form of Libertarianism has almost zero political power in the west and is not represented by the Libertarian Party of <basically anywhere>

 

[The Rogue Wolf]

Libertarian Island plans fall apart for the most libertarian reason possible

Y'know, as much as I like to deride the first Bioshock game as being "Babby's First System Shock", the story absolutely nailed down how this type would handle their own society: They can't, because each and every one of them hates other people making rules and thinks they should be making them instead.

As for the age of consent thing, well, these egomaniacs are always looking to "get 'em while they're pure" and therefore can't tell just how bad they are in bed.

 

[Agema]

Y'know, as much as I like to deride the first Bioshock game as being "Babby's First System Shock", the story absolutely nailed down how this type would handle their own society: They can't, because each and every one of them hates other people making rules and thinks they should be making them instead.

If we assume the first states were monarchies (or other autocracies), then the revolutionary concept of the state is that it's not a vehicle for one guy to get his way over everyone else, but a vehicle for everyone else to stop one guy getting his way. Thus democracy.

I get why libertarians are worried about the power that the state has over the people, but I think libertarians hopelessly undervalue the threat potentially posed to them by their fellow citizens... possibly of course because the state they hate is doing its job reasonably well in that regard.

 

[XsjadoBlayde]

https://www.mediamatters.org/qanon-conspiracy-theory/2021-bond-between-qanon-and-anti-vaxxers-grew-even-stronger

(All links removed cause bleh)

This is the second installment of “Beyond ‘Q,’” a series examining QAnon's evolution in 2021 after its central figure stopped posting and the conspiracy theory grew into a lasting movement. Read the first installment here.


As the world struggled with the impacts of the coronavirus pandemic, the QAnon conspiracy theory experienced rapid platform growth and a breakthrough year in 2020, a turnaround from a bit of a rut the conspiracy theory faced after “Q” -- the central figure of QAnon -- was knocked offline in mid-2019. Studies found that traffic for and consumption of QAnon content on social media platforms boomed during 2020. As this content boomed, so did false conspiracy theories about COVID-19. Q even joined in on the community’s conspiracy theories.

That focus on COVID-19 continued into 2021, as the QAnon and anti-vaccine communities became increasingly intertwined.

One notable example of the connection came in July, when Jeffrey Pedersen and Shannon Townsend — the co-hosts of the QAnon-promoting MatrixxxGrooove Show, who are known online as “intheMatrixxx” and “ShadyGrooove,” respectively — interviewed Andrew Wakefield, the godfather of the modern anti-vaccination movement. During the interview, Wakefield even said part of the QAnon slogan -- “Where we go one, we go all.”

This all unfolded months after Q’s last post on December 8, 2020 -- signaling the spread of the conspiracy theory beyond its central figure.


As the QAnon community attacked vaccines, anti-vax figures saw allies

By the beginning of 2021, Facebook, YouTube, Twitter, and TikTok had finally announced crackdowns on QAnon. But it was not enough to extensively hamper the growth of QAnon. The QAnon community remained engaged throughout the year, in part because of the emergence of what they called “the death jab” -- safe and effective coronavirus vaccines.

The QAnon community is notably anti-vax, with polling in July finding a significant percentage of the unvaccinated had QAnon beliefs. And when coronavirus vaccines were released to the American public in early 2021, the community turned its attacks on the shots.

In January, QAnon supporters -- some of whom were radicalized during the pandemic -- were able to temporarily shut down a Los Angeles vaccination site. A QAnon influencer, Terpsichore Maras-Lindeman (known online as “Tore”), organized anti-vaccine mandate lawsuits in every state in the country, seeking to file a lawsuit with the Supreme Court -- which she now claims to have done. Multiple QAnon influencers shared schemes to get people religious exemptions from the vaccines, and others got their followers to harass hospitals about COVID-19 treatments. QAnon supporters participated in anti-vaccine events, including protesting at places with vaccine mandates.

Meanwhile, anti-vax influencers saw the QAnon community as a friendly platform. Throughout the year, numerous anti-vax figures, including Wakefield, went on QAnon shows to undermine vaccination efforts. The founder of a group that opposes vaccine mandates in the transportation industry even went on multiple QAnon shows to promote his group.

Some anti-vax figures even lauded QAnon shows, telling the hosts of one that they were providing “hope and solutions” for listeners. Multiple members of the “Disinformation Dozen” — influencers identified in a Center for Countering Digital Hate report as the originators of an estimated 65% of vaccine misinformation spread on Facebook and Twitter — praised or appeared on QAnon shows.


Some anti-vax figures went on QAnon shows multiple times. Kate Shemirani, one of Britain’s biggest anti-vaxxers, made repeat appearances on the British QAnon show The Charlie Ward Show, where she lauded the host as a “legend.”

Anti-vax influencers also used the QAnon community to bolster their own fundraising efforts. When Karen Kingston, an anti-vax Pfizer “whistleblower,” made multiple appearances on MatrixxxGrooove Show to attack vaccines, the hosts showed her fundraising page and encouraged people to donate $17 -- a reference to Q, the 17th letter of the alphabet. Viewers of the show did donate, including Jo Rae Perkins, a QAnon-supporting congressional candidate. (Kingston also received a donation tied to SGT Report, another QAnon show.) In another example, anti-vax “whistleblowers” promoted by Project Veritas shared links where people could donate to them during their speeches at a QAnon conference.

Several anti-vax figures also went on QAnon shows to promote bogus COVID-19 cures in lieu of vaccines. Andreas Kalcker, “one of the leading figures in the bleach ‘cure’ movement,” went on The Charlie Ward Show to push it. And Vladimir Zelenko, a doctor who claimed he had an experimental treatment for COVID-19, appeared on QAnon show X22 Report multiple times to promote his “Zelenko protocol.”

QAnon influencer and congressional candidate Ron Watkins has also claimed that he is working with Zelenko to form an anti-vaccine “coalition” in Congress, adding that he “work(s) a lot with him behind the scenes.”

Additionally, a business consultant named Clay Clark put together events around the country that regularly featured QAnon figures and anti-vax influencers pushing misinformation. Clark himself has repeatedly gone on QAnon shows and attacked vaccines, and has also discussed QAnon explicitly with the MatrixxxGrooove Show hosts. Other conferences that brought together QAnon and anti-vax figures popped up throughout the year.


Anti-vax influencers collaborated with some QAnon influencers -- and embraced parts of QAnon themselves

As anti-vax figures identified allies in the QAnon community, some went further, and partnered more actively with QAnon figures. Juan O. Savin, a QAnon influencer some in the community believe is actually John F. Kennedy Jr., promoted an initiative from Sherri Tenpenny, a member of the “Disinformation Dozen.” For her part, Tenpenny said Savin helped put together a Zoom session with her and other anti-vax figures to attack vaccines in August that was apparently streamed on multiple QAnon shows. Tenpenny has also reportedly collaborated with 1st Amendment Praetorian, a QAnon militia group.

Another anti-vax figure, Bryan Ardis, teamed up in a video with the MatrixxxGrooove Show co-hosts to promote a lawsuit from anti-vax attorney Thomas Renz, which falsely claimed that tens of thousands had died from the vaccines. Ardis and Renz also used the show to solicit donations for Renz’s legal efforts. Ardis praised the MatrixxxGrooove Show for “helping us get this out to hundreds of thousands of people,” and for “helping me reach an audience where we can educate, inspire, and warn.” Renz also promoted his legal efforts on other QAnon shows. One of the hosts, Zak Paine, a participant in part of the January 6 insurrection, called Renz a “good friend.” Another host claimed to have learned of Renz’s legal efforts from Tenpenny.

Elsewhere, multiple anti-vax figures joined events on a national tour organized by QAnon show host Scott McKay. Participants included Ardis; Judy Mikovits, star of the viral misinformation video Plandemic; “Disinformation Dozen” member Christine Northrup; and Leigh Dundas, “one of the most prominent anti-vaccine activists in Southern California” who also attended and cheered on the Capitol insurrection. One of the anti-vax Project Veritas “whistleblowers” at a Las Vegas QAnon conference said that “friends of mine who are big fans of” certain QAnon influencers “led me to Project Veritas,” referring to influencers Savin and John Sabal, the event’s organizer who is known online as “QAnon John.”

Beyond using QAnon shows for self-promotion and collaborating with QAnon figures, some anti-vax figures seemingly embraced parts of the conspiracy theory itself. Christopher Rake, an anti-vax anesthesiologist in California, got a crowd to chant the QAnon slogan while speaking at an anti-vaccine rally.

In other cases, multiple anti-vax figures – while appearing with QAnon figures – endorsed a false QAnon conspiracy theory that elites harvest from the blood of children a substance known as adrenochrome. That included “Disinformation Dozen” member Charlene Bollinger and Stella Immanuel, a member of the medical misinformation group America’s Frontline Doctors who also has a promo code on her site for a QAnon show. (Another member of America’s Frontline Doctors, Lee Merritt, has also reportedly been connected with QAnon militia group 1st Amendment Praetorian.)

And Tenpenny, while appearing with the MatrixxxGrooove Show hosts in November, seemed to explicitly endorse tenets of QAnon, saying, “We talked about human trafficking and pedophilia and adrenochrome in kind of hushed language and only around people — like-minded friends. Now it’s like we just talk about it, because it’s so obvious.”

She made the claim again later that month when hosting the MatrixxxGrooove Show hosts on her own show, saying that they — along with other QAnon shows like “X22 Report and SGT Report” — were “playing this really important role.”


Even without Q, QAnon continued to give a boost to the anti-vaccine movement -- and that’s due to social media

Even though Q has gone silent and platforms have cracked down on related content, the links between the QAnon community and the anti-vaccine movement -- a trend that was already notable in 2020 -- grew even stronger in 2021. The trend was similar to a dynamic seen with political figures: Anti-vaccine influencers took advantage of the large, organized QAnon community to advance their agendas.

And that development occurred because of a critical error by the social media platforms: For nearly three years, they failed to take action on -- and even algorithmically promoted -- QAnon, including in the early months of the pandemic when there was a major increase in QAnon content consumption. Mainstream platform crackdowns did not stop that trend, and by the time they acted, it was too late. Now there is an increasing synergy between two dangerous groups, which is undoubtedly hampering efforts to get people vaccinated, harming the ability to end the pandemic, and hurting many people in the process.

Disclose.tv: Conspiracy Forum Turned Disinformation Factory

Disclose.tv, though it presents itself as a news aggregator, promotes pseudoscientific conspiracy theories on its social media without accountabillity.

www.logically.ai

 

[Seanchaidh]

I get why libertarians are worried about the power that the state has over the people, but I think libertarians hopelessly undervalue the threat potentially posed to them by their fellow citizens... possibly of course because the state they hate is doing its job reasonably well in that regard.

Also, much of the abusive power dynamics between private citizens and other residents has come to be regarded as natural, or is indeed to the benefit of the libertarian.

 

[XsjadoBlayde]

Huh

The Claremont Institute, once a little-known think tank often confused with the liberal-arts college of the same name, has emerged as a driving force in the conservative movement’s crusade to use bogus fraud claims about the 2020 election to rewrite voting laws and remake the election system in time for the 2022 midterms and 2024 presidential election. Most infamously, one of the group’s legal scholars crafted memos outlining a plan for how then-Vice President Mike Pence could potentially overturn the last election.

Conservative mega-donors like what they see.

The biggest right-wing megadonors in America made major contributions to Claremont in 2020 and 2021, according to foundation financial records obtained by Rolling Stone. The high-profile donors include several of the most influential families who fund conservative politics and policy: the DeVoses of West Michigan, the Bradleys of Milwaukee, and the Scaifes of Pittsburgh.



The Dick and Betsy DeVos Foundation donated $240,000 to Claremont in 2020 and approved another $400,000 to be paid out in the future, tax records show. The Bradley Foundation donated $100,000 to Claremont in 2020 and another $100,000 in 2021, according to tax records and a spokeswoman for the group. The Sarah Scaife Foundation, one of several charities tied to the late right-wing billionaire Richard Mellon Scaife, supplied another $450,000 to Claremont in 2020, according to its latest tax filings.



Claremont’s own tax filings show that its revenue rose from 2019 to 2020 by a half-million dollars to $6.2 million, one of the highest sums since the organization was founded in 1979, according to the most recent available data. Claremont did not respond to a request for comment about its newly disclosed donors or its overall revenue for 2021.

The DeVoses, Bradleys, and Scaifes are among the most prominent donor families in conservative politics. For Bradley and Scaife, the giving to Claremont tracks with a long history of funding right-wing causes and advocacy groups, from the American Enterprise Institute think tank and the “bill mill” American Legislative Exchange Council, to anti-immigration zealot David Horowitz’s Freedom Center and the climate-denying Heartland Institute.

Bradley in particular has given heavily to groups that traffic in misleading or baseless claims about “election integrity” or widespread “voter fraud.” Thanks to a $6.5 million infusion from the Bradley Impact Fund, a related nonprofit, the undercover-sting group Project Veritas nearly doubled its revenue in 2020 to $22 million, according to the group’s tax filing. Bradley is also a long-time funder of the Heritage Foundation, which helped architect the wave of voter suppression bills introduced in state legislatures this year, and True the Vote, a conservative group that trains poll watchers and stokes fears of rampant voter fraud in the past.

But while the Bradley donations are to be expected, the contributions from the Dick and Betsy DeVos Foundation to Claremont are perhaps more surprising. Betsy DeVos, in one of her final acts as Trump’s education secretary, condemned the “angry mob” on January 6 and said “the law must be upheld and the work of the people must go on.”

A spokesman for the DeVoses, Nick Wasmiller, said Betsy DeVos’s letter “speaks for itself.” He added: “Claremont does work in many areas. It would be baseless to assert the Foundation’s support has any connection to the one item you cite.” While the foundation’s 2020 tax filing said its grants to Claremont were unrestricted, Wasmiller said the filing was wrong and the money had been earmarked. However, he declined to say what it was earmarked for.



The donations flowing into Claremont illustrate that although the group’s full-throated support for Trump and fixation on election crimes may be extreme, they’re not fringe views when they have the backing of influential conservative funders. “Were it not for the patronage of billionaire conservatives and their family foundations, the Claremont Institute would likely be relegated to screaming about its anti-government agenda on the street corner,” says Kyle Herrig, president of government watchdog group Accountable.US.

The Claremont Institute’s mission, as its president, Ryan Williams, recently put it, is to “save Western civilization.” Since the 2016 presidential race, Claremont tried to give an intellectual veneer to the frothy mix of nativism and isolationism represented by candidate Donald Trump. The think tank was perhaps best known for its magazine, the Claremont Review of Books, and on the eve of the ’16 election, the Review published an essay called “The Flight 93 Election,” comparing the choice facing Republican voters to that of the passengers who ultimately chose to bring down the fourth plane on September 11th. If conservatives didn’t rush the proverbial cockpit, the author, identified by the pen name Publius Decius Mus, “death is certain. To compound the metaphor: a Hillary Clinton presidency is Russian Roulette with a semi-auto. With Trump, at least you can spin the cylinder and take your chances.”

The essay’s author, later revealed to be a conservative writer named Michael Anton, went to work in the Trump White House, which made sense given his description in “Flight 93 Election” of “the ceaseless importation of Third World foreigners with no tradition of, taste for, or experience in liberty means that the electorate grows more left, more Democratic, less Republican, less republican, and less traditionally American with every cycle.”

Former Claremont scholars said they were aghast by the think tank’s full-on embrace of Trump in 2016. “The Claremont Institute spent 36 years as a resolutely anti-populist institution, [and] preached rightly that norms and institutions were hard to build and easy to destroy, so to watch them suddenly embrace Trump in May 2016 was like if PETA suddenly published a barbecue cookbook,” one former fellow told Vice News.



In recent years, the think tank courted controversy when it awarded paid fellowships to Jack Posobiec, a right-wing influencer who was an early promoter of the Seth Rich and Pizzagate conspiracy theories, and Charlie Kirk, head of the pro-Trump activist group Turning Point USA who has pushed baseless election-fraud theories and vowed to defend young people who wouldn’t refused vaccination from what he called “medical apartheid.”

But Claremont wouldn’t fully land in the spotlight until the end of Trump’s presidency. On Jan. 6, John Eastman, a law professor and Claremont scholar, spoke at the “Save America” rally on Jan. 6, 2021, that preceded the Capitol insurrection. Eastman repeated several election-related conspiracy theories, alleging that “machines contributed to that fraud” by “unloading the ballots from the secret folder,” a version of the rampant conspiracy theories spread by Trump campaign lawyers about the company Dominion Voting Systems.

As would later be revealed, Eastman also wrote two memos outlining a plan for how then-Vice President Mike Pence could overturn the 2020 result on January 6. “The main thing here is that Pence should do this without asking for permission — either from a vote of the joint session or from the Court,” Eastman wrote. “Let the other side challenge his actions in court…” (Worth noting: The Claremont Review would later publish its own critique of Eastman’s memos by a professor of government and ethics at Claremont McKenna college. After walking through a key piece of Eastman’s argument, the professor, Joseph Bessette, wrote: “One doesn’t have to be a scholar of the American Founding, a professor of constitutional law, or an expert in election law to know that this simply cannot be right.”)

Claremont continues to push the stolen-election myth and has apparently helped state lawmakers draft legislation to make election laws more favorable to the Republican Party. In October, Claremont President Ryan Williams told an undercover liberal activist that Eastman was “still very involved with a lot of the state legislators and advising them on election integrity stuff.”

Williams went on to tell the undercover activist, Lauren Windsor, that Eastman’s position was this: “Look, unless we get right what happened in 2020, there’s no moving on. They’re just going to steal every subsequent election.”

 

[Trunkage]

If we assume the first states were monarchies (or other autocracies), then the revolutionary concept of the state is that it's not a vehicle for one guy to get his way over everyone else, but a vehicle for everyone else to stop one guy getting his way. Thus democracy.

I get why libertarians are worried about the power that the state has over the people, but I think libertarians hopelessly undervalue the threat potentially posed to them by their fellow citizens... possibly of course because the state they hate is doing its job reasonably well in that regard.

I think its stupidier than that. They care about government enforce The Rule of Law and Property Rights. So clearly they understand that fellow citizens pose threats

But it's the only threats that they care about. Which is not a problem until they pretend that these are the only problems EVERYONE ELSE should worry about. Because they are hypocrits and dont even understand their own ideology

And let's not look into that property rights stuff. Particularly WHEN property rights started. Because the timing is very convinent. And makes them look like hypocrits again

 

[XsjadoBlayde]

Trump loyalists form alliance in bid to take over election process in key states

‘Coalition of America First secretary of state candidates’ disclosed by Jim Marchant, who is running for secretary of state in Nevada

www.theguardian.com

Extreme Republicans loyal to Donald Trump and his “big lie” that the 2020 election was rigged have formed a nationwide alliance aiming to take control of the presidential election process in key battleground states that could determine the outcome of the 2024 presidential race.


At least eight Republicans who are currently running to serve as chief election officials in crucial swing states have come together to form the coalition.

The group shares conspiracy theories about unfounded election fraud and exchanges ideas on how radically to reconstruct election systems in ways that could overturn the legitimate results of the next presidential race.


All of them backed Trump’s efforts to subvert the 2020 election and cling on to power against the will of American voters. Several of the alliance have been personally endorsed by Trump and have a credible shot at winning the post of secretary of state – the most powerful election officer in each state.

The existence of the “coalition of America First secretary of state candidates” was disclosed by one of the members themselves, Jim Marchant who is running for secretary of state in Nevada. A former business owner and Nevada state assembly member, Marchant has ties with the QAnon conspiracy theory movement.

Marchant ran for a US House seat in 2020 and lost. He challenged the result unsuccessfully in the courts, claiming he was a “victim of election fraud”, in a mirror-image of Trump’s many failed legal challenges to his defeat.

In an interview with the Guardian, Marchant said that there were currently eight members of the coalition bidding for chief election official posts, with more likely to join soon. He said participants included Jody Hice in Georgia, Mark Finchem in Arizona and Kristina Karamo in Michigan – all three of whom have been endorsed by Trump.

Marchant also named Rachel Hamm in California and David Winney in Colorado, and said that further members were likely to be recruited imminently in Wisconsin and Minnesota. Several in-person “summits” of the candidates had already been held, with the next planned in Wisconsin on 29 January and Nevada on 26 February.

All the candidates named by Marchant have been prominent exponents of false claims that the 2020 election was fraudulent. Finchem attended the “Stop the Steal” rally in Washington on January 6 hours before the US Capitol was stormed.

Hice is running for secretary of state in Georgia against the Republican incumbent, Brad Raffensperger, who famously rebuffed Trump’s demands in the 2020 count to “find 11,780 votes” that would tip the state to him. Marchant, Karamo and Finchem all spoke at a QAnon conference in Las Vegas in October.

The disclosure that extremist Republicans dedicated to election subversion have formed a network was first revealed by Steve Bannon, Trump’s former chief strategist in the White House who is spearheading a “precinct-by-precinct” movement to inject far-right activists into local elected office. Marchant disclosed the alliance on Bannon’s War Room podcast.

The revelation can only heighten jitters about the fragile state of American democracy. An NPR analysis of 2022 secretary of state races across the country found that at least 15 candidates have adopted Trump’s big lie.

Jena Griswold, Colorado’s secretary of state and chair of the Democratic Association of Secretaries of State, told the Guardian that democracy would be on the ballot in this November’s midterm elections.

“Extreme members of the GOP are taking a sledgehammer to our democratic system. The big lie coalition of candidates running for secretary of state has pushed election conspiracies, authored dangerous voter suppression legislation, or attended the January 6 insurrection,” Griswold said.

The nature of the threat posed by the new coalition is illustrated by Marchant. In the course of the 2020 election, he declared that had he been secretary of state at that time he would have refused to certify Joe Biden’s victory in Nevada by 33,596 votes, even though the count was unanimously approved by the Nevada supreme court.

Marchant was also an eager advocate of sending an alternate slate of Trump electors to Congress in blatant contravention of the official vote count. Asked by the Guardian whether he would be prepared to do the same again in 2024, by sending an alternate slate of electors from Nevada to Congress contrary to the actual election results, he said: “That is very possible, yes.”

Marchant told the Guardian that were he to win election in November and become the top election official in his state, he would act swiftly to introduce voter suppression measures. That would include introducing voter ID – “a no-brainer”, he said.

He would also eradicate mail-in ballots which have been extensively blamed by conspiracy theorists, without evidence, as a source of mass fraud in 2020, and open up election counts to “aggressive poll watching”. And he would scrap electronic voting machines – also targeted by big lie advocates – and replace them with paper counts.


When asked for evidence that voting machines had been manipulated to benefit Biden over Trump, Marchant pointed to Mesa county, Colorado. He said that “a very brave clerk suspected a lot of stuff going on by people who could get to the machines” and found that “clear crimes” had been committed.

In fact, the clerk, Tina Peters, was recently stripped of her election duties after she was found to have sneaked an unauthorized individual into a secure room where voting machines were stored in order to copy their hard drives. The stolen information was then presented at a conspiracy theory event organized by the MyPillow executive Mike Lindell, a major proponent of the big lie.

The Guardian asked Marchant who was manipulating the voting machines. He replied: “I don’t know actually. I think it’s a global thing. The people in power want to maintain their power.”

The near-universal dismissal of all court challenges to the 2020 election results, including his own case, was explained by Marchant as the work of corrupt judges. “A lot of judges were bought off too – they are part of this cabal,” he said.

What would he say to the criticism that his actions and those of his fellow coalition members, like those of Trump himself, were the behavior of sore losers?

“I disagree,” Marchant said. “We have a lot of evidence. It is out there. Shoot, you can find it.”

*Pops open fresh bottle of strong mind-numbing booze*

 

[TheMysteriousGX]

Some levity

 

[Kyrian007]

Some levity

Har. Hardly surprising though, Danish isn't particularly bright. Is he at least taking it with some grace... or is he trying to claim someone hacked him or some other lame excuse?

 

[TheMysteriousGX]

Har. Hardly surprising though, Danish isn't particularly bright. Is he at least taking it with some grace... or is he trying to claim someone hacked him or some other lame excuse?

If I understand him correctly, he's claiming the first was "deceptively edited" to make it seem like he was saying the thing instead of merely retweeting the article.

Which is such low stakes it's astounding he bothered

 

[Cheetodust]

Har. Hardly surprising though, Danish isn't particularly bright. Is he at least taking it with some grace... or is he trying to claim someone hacked him or some other lame excuse?

By the looks of things he's now just screaming that he didn't write the article and ignoring that nobody said he did.

 

[XsjadoBlayde]

Set ya calenders n alarms. again.

 

[XsjadoBlayde]

Lol. When in doubt, when those pesky laws and taxes get too annoying, just slip into the fantastical libertarian waking coma

 

[TheMysteriousGX]

There is not enough cocaine in the world for me to understand what the hell she's on about

 

[Dwarvenhobble]

How is this always a thing? Why is there such a crossover between pedos and libertarians? There's other small/no government ideologies that don't seem to always fall into this. Like Anarchists and Communists can disagree on a lot, but it's usually not about when a child is old enough to have sex with.

Before anyone comes in with examples of commie/anarchist pedos, I'm not saying they never molest kids, I'm just that saying being allowed to very rarely seems to be the hill they choose to die on. Just strikes me as strange that that specific small/no government crowd above others attracts pedos.

Edit: also to clarify I'm not saying I think all libertarians are pedos. There are, in fact, libertarians that I respectfully disagree with. That tends to be the older generation of libertarians like Penn Jillett.

Points to Vaush........... he dies on that hell every few months it seems now.

The weird shit is with the commies / anarchist it doesn't fall apart when some-one turns out to be a pedo and worrying often it seems to be "They're on our side so it doesn't matter"

 

[Dwarvenhobble]

There is not enough cocaine in the world for me to understand what the hell she's on about

Chaz / Chop and autonomous Zones is my best guess

 

[Trunkage]

Points to Vaush........... he dies on that hell every few months it seems now.

The weird shit is with the commies / anarchist it doesn't fall apart when some-one turns out to be a pedo and worrying often it seems to be "They're on our side so it doesn't matter"

I would say that a pedo would be very interested in anyone who tries to limit the power of government