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You can actually skip the first two seasons of Iron 👊 Fist and not miss anything. Those are Still at the time when these shows were on Netflix, and before everything was falling apart between them and Disney.
I'll do you one better, my gut says to skip everything that's not Daredevil. I’ve no interest in Luke Cage, Iron Fist, and I have no idea who Jessica Jones even is. The only one I’m thinking of entertaining would The Punisher. I dunno, if I get a bored hair up my ass, I might give the other shows a go at some point; if tonally they’re anything like Daredevil, I might be able to squeeze a little cynical and hesitant appreciation out of them… maybe.
 

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I get you re: Daredevil, but I also kind of don't.

You like a Marvel show that's an indictment of Marvel. That's like people liking Andor because it doesn't have Jedi. These are common opinions.
I also like Daredevil and Andor but it's just kind of funny that people want IPs that aren't the IPs now. What is even anything anymore...
 
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I'll do you one better, my gut says to skip everything that's not Daredevil. I’ve no interest in Luke Cage, Iron Fist, and I have no idea who Jessica Jones even is. The only one I’m thinking of entertaining would The Punisher. I dunno, if I get a bored hair up my ass, I might give the other shows a go at some point; if tonally they’re anything like Daredevil, I might be able to squeeze a little cynical and hesitant appreciation out of them… maybe.
Wrong. Most of them are vital pieces, but I can't blame you for skipping out on jessica jones. Her show really does get ttoo ynical undoes all of her hard work in her own series. Luke and DD are the most important as far as i'm concerned. Iron fist i want to like, but they're gonna have to totally revamp everything if they want to bring him back. Most of them are only useless to you.

A majority of these fans want these characters to come back because they like and care for them.

I get you re: Daredevil, but I also kind of don't.

You like a Marvel show that's an indictment of Marvel. That's like people liking Andor because it doesn't have Jedi. These are common opinions.
I also like Daredevil and Andor but it's just kind of funny that people want IPs that aren't the IPs now. What is even anything anymore...
The people usually complain this way are either lying to themselves, or come up with whatever pathetic justifications of why they waste their time on this fictional universe. I get it when a bad show, or movie happens, but that doesn't mean you have to totally throw everything out of the water. Once again, though, people ask and demanded for it and got what they paid for. It's a case of be careful of what you wish for. The only reason the hardcore Marvel fans are upset now is because they don't know what they want anymore. Getting pissed off over the smallest things.
 
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IMO the good seasons of the Netflix marvel shows were Daredevil seasons 1 and 3 and Jessica Jones season 1.

The not so good but kina fun seasons were the rest of Daredevil and Jessica Jones and Luke Cage. Iron Fist and Defenders were poop.

Luke Cage was fun because it kind of traded on that 70s blacksploitation feel, anchored around a delightfully cartoonish villain, and I have a soft spot in my heart for both of the those things.

And just for my own tastes- I'm not personally invested in if a Marvel thing is "too" Marvel or "anti" Marvel, and same for Star Wars. I just care if something is good, or entertaining? If Daredevil needs to be anti-Marvel to be good, so be it (and I actually don't think this last rebirth season was good). If Andor needs to be "not like other Star Wars" to be good, so be it (Andor is indeed good).
But I remember the Marvel movie Shang Chi being criticized a bit for being too Marvel-y, with the big CGI blow-up at the end, and I just didn't mind that at all, I liked that movie. Kung Fu Marvel was an nice premise and I had fun with it. Do I want more? No- one is enough! And ultimately I think therein likes the problem- sometimes one or two of a thing is enough.
 

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Daredevil seasons 1 and 3
Season 2 is nowhere near as bad as people says it is. I have my mind rights with it, but it's still a great season overall.

Defenders were poop.
Now that is a lie. There are people who don't like the fenders, ut the overall general opinion is that the show is so okay, that it is fine or average. Though if I gave it a rank, it would be a B+ for me personally.


But I remember the Marvel movie Shang Chi being criticized a bit for being too Marvel-y, with the big CGI blow-up at the end, and I just didn't mind that at all, I liked that movie.
I love Shang-Chi. I have no problems with the CG fantasy all. That is great in my opinion. Besides, it's a fantasy martial arts. What the hell were they expecting? I'm always for practical effects as well, but this movie did everything perfectly as far as i'm concerned. The only thing I dislike about the movie is Awkafina. With some minor exceptions, she says playing the same role every single time and it gets grating. She is not at her worst here but i'm still not a fan. Her best role is playing a cartoon spider thief. I didn't even know it was her so it shows. She can act without pulling off that wanna be black vanaqulere accent. At least in voice acting anyway.

No- one is enough! And ultimately I think therein likes the problem- sometimes one or two of a thing is enough.
I am a similar mindset, but, you know, they're gonna make another one because of how well the last one did. We all lready knew that was going to happen to begin with. I'm looking forward to it. I enjoy the things I want to enjoy and that's it.
 

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Luke Cage was fun because it kind of traded on that 70s blacksploitation feel
Holy shit, dude, I literally just started Luke Cage like 10 minutes ago, and 3 seconds into the intro, that is EXACTLY the vibe I got. I heard the music before a single actor uttered a word, and I said "oh, so we're doing modern day blaxploitation, huh?"

Yeah, I know I said I wasn't interested, but boredom set in, and I just couldn't find anything to watch, so what the hell. Working from home gets lonely, and I need background noise to fill the silence. Tangentially, I think (for me) streaming services are starting to go the way of "premium" cable television back in the day, y'know, when people used to boast about having "500 channels?" Sounds impressive, but when you only watch 6 of them, and a third of the 500 are in Spanish, what difference does it make? I've got probably a half dozen streaming services, and I'm interested in a literal fraction of what they offer.
 
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I've got probably a half dozen streaming services, and I'm interested in a literal fraction of what they offer.
All I have is Amazon Prime. I only use it a few times here and there. The other streaming services either use my older brother's or other relatives accounts.
 

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I love Shang-Chi. I have no problems with the CG fantasy all. That is great in my opinion. Besides, it's a fantasy martial arts. What the hell were they expecting? I'm always for practical effects as well, but this movie did everything perfectly as far as i'm concerned. The only thing I dislike about the movie is Awkafina. With some minor exceptions, she says playing the same role every single time and it gets grating. She is not at her worst here but i'm still not a fan. Her best role is playing a cartoon spider thief. I didn't even know it was her so it shows. She can act without pulling off that wanna be black vanaqulere accent. At least in voice acting anyway.
Hey, another Bad Guys fan. Always nice to see one of those. As for Shang-Chi...it wasn't the concept of the final battle that bothered me. In fact, it wasn't even the final battle itself, which was spectacular. My issue with the climax of Shang-Chi was that by bringing in The-Dweller-In-Darkness the way that they did, he essentially sidelined Wenwu, who I felt was one of the most interesting villains in the MCU.

ETA: As for the Netflix MCU shows, LOVE season 1 and 3 of Daredevil, Season 1 of Jessica Jones, and both seasons of The Punisher. Enjoyed Season 3 of Jessica Jones, both seasons of Luke Cage, Season 2 of Iron Fist, and Season 2 of Daredevil. Got some fun out of The Defenders, and some ironic fun out of Season 1 of Iron Fist. Even the worst of the Netflix MCU seasons, though, were better than Secret Invasion and ESPECIALLY Inhumans.
 
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Hey, another Bad Guys fan. Always nice to see one of those. As for Shang-Chi...it wasn't the concept of the final battle that bothered me. In fact, it wasn't even the final battle itself, which was spectacular. My issue with the climax of Shang-Chi was that by bringing in The-Dweller-In-Darkness the way that they did, he essentially sidelined Wenwu, who I felt was one of the most interesting villains in the MCU.

ETA: As for the Netflix MCU shows, LOVE season 1 and 3 of Daredevil, Season 1 of Jessica Jones, and both seasons of The Punisher. Enjoyed Season 3 of Jessica Jones, both seasons of Luke Cage, Season 2 of Iron Fist, and Season 2 of Daredevil. Got some fun out of The Defenders, and some ironic fun out of Season 1 of Iron Fist. Even the worst of the Netflix MCU seasons, though, were better than Secret Invasion and ESPECIALLY Inhumans.
I could understand the case for Wenwu, though I feel he wasn't sidelined that much. I can't stop you from feeling that way, so go for it.

It's rare that I get to meet somebody that enjoy pretty much almost all the seasons of every show. The last sentence you said is true, though.
 
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Black Mirror - Season 7 - 6/10

I think I disliked most of the episodes people liked from this season and I heard the 1st episode was the best but I really didn't care for it. A couple of the episodes felt like very rough drafts that have good ideas to explore but the execution was rather lacking.

Common People - 4/10
I think everyone seems to love this episode and I get what it's going for and everything but so many of the little things didn't make sense. I didn't get why the technology had to be connected to the internet, I don't get how there would be so many people needing this procedure to merit the product existing in that form, I don't get how the couple was struggling to pay for the service (at least in America a teacher and welder could easily afford it). Yes, I know, that's not really the point but the message and you can change those details around a bit to make it work. This episode feels like it was a 1st draft.

Bete Noire - 7/10
A nice little example of how humans would really use some super breakthrough technology.

Hotel Reverie - 3/10
This is the other episode that feels like a rough draft. It's about remaking an old movie with AI (all the actors are AI outside of the main character) and making a whole digital set with only recasting the main role. It's basically like what if Casablanca was exactly the same movie but starred Brad Pitt essentially. Here again, all the little details make no sense; this company tells the owner of the IP that remaking a movie this way is a lot cheaper (as the old studio doesn't have money) but this seems like it's more expensive than a normal remake would be. The AI is much more advanced than just being programmed to act out the movie so that's probably pretty expensive. One of the AIs sorta "breaks free" which really doesn't make much sense. It's a big deal to stay with the beats of the movie but then they purposefully change the ending so much so why is changing the movie dangerous? The actress that plays the modern actor is the remake is just horrible. She wants to do this movie because she loves the original but then acts like she has no concept of the original movie and has no idea how to actually act either. The actress that plays the AI of the love interest is really great though.

Plaything - 6/10
This feels a bit like a Doctor Who episode, it also stars Peter Capaldi, where the Doctor purposefully gets captured to initiate a plan because he's smarter than everyone else. The episode could've used more Capaldi and not so many flashbacks. Also, the technology here is just not something that is possible. The crux of the episode is that a game dev during the early days (like original Doom days of video games) coded something that's transcedent that you couldn't even possibly code today. Why not set this in the future instead of the past/present so it makes sense?

Eulogy - 10/10
This is the standout episode of the season easily. A super intimate episode where Paul Giamatti just acts the shit out of it.

USS Callister: Into Infinity - 7/10
This is a continuation of a previous episode from a previous season about the game dev that has a digital DNA cloner and puts copies of people into the game world. This is easily the most "fun" episode of the season and also the longest episode. There's really not too much of a deep message with this episode and it's more of just a fun ride. This sorta twist at the end was rather well done (I was concerned when they went back in time to essentially say "so what really happened was..." but they pulled it off). The very very ending was a bit cheesy and the thing happened that I said to myself "I hope the episode doesn't do this", the episode actually did.

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I'll do you one better, my gut says to skip everything that's not Daredevil. I’ve no interest in Luke Cage, Iron Fist, and I have no idea who Jessica Jones even is. The only one I’m thinking of entertaining would The Punisher. I dunno, if I get a bored hair up my ass, I might give the other shows a go at some point; if tonally they’re anything like Daredevil, I might be able to squeeze a little cynical and hesitant appreciation out of them… maybe.
Really just watch the Season 1s honestly (Iron Fist doesn't exist); Luke Cage season 1 is pretty damn good and it has really great music (season 2 is so bad), Jessica Jones season 1 is great (David Tennant is amazing as the villain), and I guess Punisher season 1 is fine (hardly remember it and didn't watch season 2). The great thing is you can watch the 1st seasons and you'll get a complete story without needing to continue watching much like you can just watch the 1st season of Stranger Things or Westworld and be done with it. I also feel the same way with Daredevil (I haven't seen the newest season) but I loved season 1 and the later seasons were OK at best, I don't really remember them too well and they kinda blur together (too much of The Hand).
 

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I've got 2 episodes left of Bojack Horseman. And jesus fuck, I had no memory of the last season being this dark. Puts even season 3 to shame. And what's crazy about that is most characters are actually doing the best they've done in the series: Todd is distanced from Bojack with a partner and a job, Princess Carolyn is back on her feet and her life in balance, Diane is in a healthy relationship and letting go of her self-loathing, and Mr Peanutbutter finally is forced to do some growing up. But for Bojack it truly is the Stygian pit: he loses basically everything, and the audience is absolutely raked over the coals in having to follow him in his final fall from grace. The scene where he ends up at a frat party with Vance Waggoner feels genuinely repulsive. I'll write a longer dissertation once I go through the final 2 episodes.
 
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Finished The Eternaut.

It was pretty good, although every now and then a character choice would make no sense and take me out of it.

1. A war vet decides to brave a freshly minted hellscape but refuses the offer of a rifle on his way out.

2. When the outsider in a survivor group turns the one gun on the others, the situation is defused and the rest of the group chooses to not do anything about this clearly untrustworthy individual.

3. A whole residential building turns hostile on the hero because they want his mask, even though nothing is preventing them from just making their own. People repurpose and cobble masks constantly in the show, and none are ever shown to fail anybody.

4. There's a couple of heroic sacrifices that don't mean much and should be easily preventable.

So nitpicks here and there about flawed character logic and certain story beats being at the mercy of what the writers want to happen, rather than what should happen.

Other than that, it's a perfectly bingeable six episodes that flow nicely as the nature of What Is Happening is revealed one twist at a time. It has that nightmare flow where things will escalate in drastic, unpredictable ways as soon as you're looking elsewhere. Production value is good, and I think the bleak, snowed-out urban landscape helps mask the dodgier CGI, much like the fog in Silent Hill covered for low resolution/draw distance. And I liked the show's distinctive look/personality. People will compare it to stuff like Half-Life and Metro but the story has over 40 years on either, so no biggie.
 
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Finished Bojack. It really is one of a kind. I don't think anything like it will be ever made again. It's a once in a generation kind of show where the talent, production and trends of the time came together to create something spectacular. The characters, dialogue and level of maturity are astounding. The last season feels truly special, both in how it feels completely satisfying and that the series ended at the exact right time, but also in how it reflects on life and itself.

I remain convinced that the fact that it was never a huge hit ultimately worked out in its favor: it got made on its own terms without audience pressure, and went out in one of the most unique endings I've ever seen. It's neither a bang nor a whimper, neither happy nor sad, neither bittersweet or a downer. It's best captured by one of Diane's final lines: "Life's a ***** and then you keep living". There's a lingering sense in the air of "What was it all for?" Clearly not nothing: all the characters have forwarded their lives and become more fully rounded people. But are they better as a result? Princess Carolyn is a mom and more in control of her life, but still every bit the conniving business shark as she's ever been. Diane's in a committed relationship and seems to have let go of her savior complex, but still seemingly haunted by her feelings of doubt and regret. Todd's more stable and mature, but has entered a new, potentially complicated phase of his life. For every obstacle every character has overcome in the series, by the end it seems there are always more on the horizon. But that's life isn't it? Nothing is ever made complete, nothing really ends.

The final shot is just amazing, the seemingly sweet and climactic score juxtaposed with Diane and Bojack's awkward silence just sitting there. They're not mad at each other or in a horrible place, but neither are they fully content or at peace. After the credits roll they're just going to go back to their lives, this chapter having ended. What an incredible, incredible show.
 

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Finished Bojack. It really is one of a kind. I don't think anything like it will be ever made again. It's a once in a generation kind of show where the talent, production and trends of the time came together to create something spectacular. The characters, dialogue and level of maturity are astounding. The last season feels truly special, both in how it feels completely satisfying and that the series ended at the exact right time, but also in how it reflects on life and itself.

I remain convinced that the fact that it was never a huge hit ultimately worked out in its favor: it got made on its own terms without audience pressure, and went out in one of the most unique endings I've ever seen. It's neither a bang nor a whimper, neither happy nor sad, neither bittersweet or a downer. It's best captured by one of Diane's final lines: "Life's a ***** and then you keep living". There's a lingering sense in the air of "What was it all for?" Clearly not nothing: all the characters have forwarded their lives and become more fully rounded people. But are they better as a result? Princess Carolyn is a mom and more in control of her life, but still every bit the conniving business shark as she's ever been. Diane's in a committed relationship and seems to have let go of her savior complex, but still seemingly haunted by her feelings of doubt and regret. Todd's more stable and mature, but has entered a new, potentially complicated phase of his life. For every obstacle every character has overcome in the series, by the end it seems there are always more on the horizon. But that's life isn't it? Nothing is ever made complete, nothing really ends.

The final shot is just amazing, the seemingly sweet and climactic score juxtaposed with Diane and Bojack's awkward silence just sitting there. They're not mad at each other or in a horrible place, but neither are they fully content or at peace. After the credits roll they're just going to go back to their lives, this chapter having ended. What an incredible, incredible show.
I will check it out at some point. I had a friend that was so into that show it made you not wanna watch it (like the Rick and Morty fandom and I've not watched that show either) so I never checked it out.
 

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I will check it out at some point. I had a friend that was so into that show it made you not wanna watch it (like the Rick and Morty fandom and I've not watched that show either) so I never checked it out.
Please do. The journey is well worth it, but I recommend watching only 1-3 episodes per day. Watching it for longer stretches at a time can get rather depressing. Keep in mind that the first season is widely considered the weakest one, and it doesn't really show its hand until about halfway through.
 
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Lxs últimxs de nosotrxs S2E4

Production design either kills it or half-asses it every scene and it's always a coin toss. The show is remarkably spot-on when it comes to recreating scenes and locations from the game, and on and off delivers tiny moments that very effectively evoke casual looting or bungled stealthing or those moments of idling and interacting with stuff for little treats of dialogue. They even adapt the game's version of "detective" mode by having Dina close her eyes and count out walkers now and then, which is kinda cute. It makes no sense but then neither does the game.

On the other hand everybody dresses like they just stepped out of their trailer and there's a Banana Republic around the corner. All the clothes look clean and freshly pressed, and the level of makeup and hair styling is absurd. Dina spends four days in the wilderness on horseback, riding from bumfuck Wyoming to post-apocalyptic Seattle with no more commodities than a backpack, and after a long night of killing and fucking and crawling through the decomposing filth and bones of dozens of subway commuters from 20+ years ago - all the while getting clawed at by hundreds of zombies - wakes up on cold hardwood floor with her hair impeccably pumped and coiffed and nary a dint on her base or mascara. Come on.

Also, Ellie fistfucks her while her arm is still sporting a bleeding, open bite wound from a walker. Yech. Disinfect that thing. She crawled through that same mulch of bones and rotten flesh like an hour ago, too.

Jeffrey Wright kills it as Isaac (again) but yet again it's a case of the show talking about itself and its themes a little too liberally by having him discuss them with the dude he's torturing. He basically sums up the idea of an unending cycle of violence as a chicken-and-egg scenario and that maybe the real infection is not cordyceps but revenge, man.

Now I have no love for the videogame but if you ask me the whole tone of the show is nowhere near as grim (Ellie and Dina definitely bring an early naughts "Roadtrip!" vibe) and no one moment carries as much impact as I remember. But is it a bad thing that the show is not as relentlessly miserable as the game? You decide.
 

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Riget

Danish series from the 90's, written and directed by professional edgelord Lars von Trier.

Riget has often been described as the Danish answer to Twin Peaks, which is on one hand understandable. Both are shows that juggle comedy, melodrama and surreal mystery. On the other, the execution couldn't be any more different.

Riget has the basic setup of a hospital drama/workplace comedy. There's an old lady among the patients who acts as a spirit medium, a pompous Swedish doctor who brings up his disdain for having to work in Denmark at every opportunity, a pregnant lady, a student trying to seduce an older nurse, the doctors have their own fraternal order that meets in the basement... the sort of thing you'd expect from this kind of premise. The actual plot or the closest it has to one, revolves around a haunting which it seems only sporadically interested in.

You know, Twin Peaks has had plenty of goofy stuff but it's foundation was a genuine sympathy for its characters and a genuine interest in its metaphysics and mysteries. Riget, on the other hand, feels mostly like a big joke. Not the worst one, mind, when it's funny it can be very funny but it seems to have outright contempt for building and maintaining actual intrigue or developing its characters into more than just one note jokes. The arrogant foreigner, the sleazy student, the nosy old lady, the put upon boss, the mad scientist who compromises his own health and safety for an experiment... you wait for these characters to open up and show some depth or have some development but they barely do.

See, I enjoy dark comedy. Watching a bunch of mostly pretty nasty people screw each other and sometimes themselves over in a Danish hospital is a perfectly fine premise as far as I'm concerned. And like I said, there are plenty of genuinely funny bits. But the actual mystery was uninspired, poorly put together and, at least by the second season, way too big a part of the show. The whole thing just feels loose, poorly thought out and lazily put together. Less a series and more a collection of ideas. Rather than proper plots and character arcs it has suggestions of them that never properly develop, just kinda wiggle around, getting nowhere.

This really feels less like "Twin Peaks at a hospital" and more like "Scrubs with ghosts." Which isn't the worst thing ever, although some bits really overstay their welcome and some set ups and punchlines are extremely contrived. The whole setup of the first seasons finale (a government delegation is visiting the hospital, so everyone better be at their best behaviour!) is just sitcom writing at its corniest, honestly and it's all the way downhill from there.

Them there's the weird hand camera look and sepia filter of the whole thing which, honestly, I don't get what it's going for. Like, not the hand camera thing, I actually kinda liked the way some of those labyrinthine corridors and basement catacombs looked, shot in that low resolution style but I really don't get why the entire thing looks like it was shot through a glass of apple juice.

It's not the worst thing ever and has its share of amusing scenes but quite frankly, there's probably a reason why less people are even aware of this then they are of its direct parody, the british comedy Garth Marengi's Darkplace. I know von Trier made a followup season a couple years ago called Exodus, that is weirdly hard to find. And if I ever do find it I might give it a watch. But I honestly wasn't very impressed with this show.

Now I have no love for the videogame but if you ask me the whole tone of the show is nowhere near as grim (Ellie and Dina definitely bring an early naughts "Roadtrip!" vibe) and no one moment carries as much impact as I remember. But is it a bad thing that the show is not as relentlessly miserable as the game? You decide.
I haven't seen either season of this show, because it looks to me like a watered down version of a series of games that I only really like for reasons mostly unrelated to its writing.

But honestly, when it comes to the presentation of LoU 2, I think its trashy over the top 90's straight to video action movie affectation is its saving grace and what made it overall much more tolerable to me than the honestly kind of cloying sentimentality of the first game. The grizzled old survivor who lost his own daughter in the zombie apocalypse gradually opening up to a child he's supposed to escort... Both the content and the presentation of Last of Us 1 were as far as I'm concerned unforgivable cliches that at this point you just can't get me to care about anymore. I'm over that stuff and I particularly don't think that's the kind of story video games should be telling.

Last of Us 2 is basically the definition of a dumbed done sequel that doubles down on violence and action but I think that actually works out in its favour. Two grim muscle bound meatheads carrying out a vendetta across post apocalyptic Seattle because they blame each other for the death of their respective daddies. It's dumb action movie shlock, complemented by some really fine action gameplay, that takes itself painfully seriously which, in turn, honestly makes it funnier. There was this part during Ellie's section of the story where you're chasing a woman through the corridors of a hospital, red alarm lights blinking, with a bloodied axe in her hand like a slasher villain and... I dunno, I vibe with this sort of thing much more than with all that cornball shit in the first game.

Mind, there's still some of that forced sentimentality in the second game, mostly during the flashback sections with Joel that scream "Brought back by popular demand". But overall I could actually get into it. I dunno, those are just not games whose writing I can ne arsed to care about much, there's nothing about their premise, setting or characters I find intriguing because it's all just a copy of a copy of a copy. At that point I take shlock over something that's desperately trying to pluck on my heart strings.
 
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The Last of Us Season 2 Episode 4

This feels similar to Episode 4 and 5 of Season 1, where the adaptation runs into the part of the game where there aren't many concrete story moments and it's mostly making your way through city streets and buildings. This results in the episode feeling a bit flimsy and lacking in any real weight. Oddly enough it chooses optional moments from the game as scenes for Ellie and Dina, like them noticing the Pride flags, and the burned out tank. Ellie even has the exact same line of "These are just assholes killed by other assholes", which I fucking dispise in the game, so having it here... yech.

We get the 'Take on Me' scene, and it's cute enough. In the game it was a nice little scene between Ellie and Dina, but here it's used to really show Dina kinda getting a bit more infatuated with Ellie (and also how she's surprisingly emotional now for some odd reason :unsure: ). Also, I think Shimmer actually makes it. I mean, he might be trapped in that music store, but he seems to have enough grass and at least he isn't getting blown the fuck up for shock value.

We get introduced to Isaac, and while it's great to see Jeffrey Wright back as the character, he doesn't hold the same amount of threat as he did in the first scene of the game. Now part of that is that Jeffrey Wright doesn't have the grim sagging face that Isaac has in the game, but his demeanor in the show is also far more energetic. In the game he felt like this tired old monster, shambling from torture chamber to torture chamber, and occasionally chewing on an apple. He felt like this evil guy whose inhuman acts had weathered him down over the years, still doing evil shit but seemingly half asleep for most of it.

We get Ellie revealing herself to be immune to Dina, and Dina revealing herself to be pregnant, and it's a little weird. It's a little weird that Dina immediately pulls a gun on Ellie minutes after she was bitten. I'm sure Dina knows you don't turn that fast, and having been her best friend for years (and possibly more) you'd think her first reaction would be sadness and not pointing a gun at Ellie. It's a little weird that after Dina reveals that she's pregnant that both of them immediately start boning right there. It's a little weird that they're doing it on the dirty floor. And it's a little weird that they're doing it in a building that they don't even know if it's secure yet. I do like that they got rid of the stupid forced confrontation scene where Ellie got pissed at Dina for not immediately telling her she was pregnant and calling her a burden. It felt stupidly out of character, and the show is continuing with Ellie not being the same edgelord.

While I enjoy this adaptation of Ellie and Dina more than the game I can't deny there's a certain CW cheapness to it. Some of this is the production design not being able to compete with the game, and the way it cuts the overall experience of their journey short. But there's also something about their demeanor being too lighthearted for the setting and the journey they're on. The game has its own problems when it tries to create moments of levity between these two characters, but there's nearly always a sense of them being aware of the danger around them. There's a caution to the actors performance in the game that's lacking in the show, and it makes the setting feel less believable as a result.

Also, good on the show for putting Bella Ramsey in more short sleeved shirts. It helps to highlight their physique more and makes them look less puny and more believable as someone able to take a person down.
 
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Doctor Who Season 2, Episode 4
Lucky Day

Not a bad episode, but also not a good one. Just kinda..fine, I guess.
Something something misinformation, something something social media. Just felt kinda bland, and I suspect part of that was it being a Doctor-lite episode focusing on Ruby (his previous companion) and I was just never invested or interested in her. Conrad almost feels comically bad. He goes from "debunking" UNIT to infiltrating it and threating Kate, Ruby and Co. with a gun, then begging for help from them in the space of about 10 minutes.
Also, the shreek was just stupid looking imo
And I can't fucking stand this 'Mrs Flood' character that keeps showing up. I find her voice grating.

We get Ellie revealing herself to be immune to Dina, and Dina revealing herself to be pregnant, and it's a little weird. It's a little weird that Dina immediately pulls a gun on Ellie minutes after she was bitten. I'm sure Dina knows you don't turn that fast, and having been her best friend for years (and possibly more) you'd think her first reaction would be sadness and not pointing a gun at Ellie. It's a little weird that after Dina reveals that she's pregnant that both of them immediately start boning right there. It's a little weird that they're doing it on the dirty floor.
I did find the that sequence pretty funny
"I'm immune"
"I'm pregnant"
"Lets fuck"

Good episode regardless.
I was curious if the show was going to alternate between Abby and Ellie's respective storylines, but I'm starting to suspect that this season will follow Ellie's story with the final episode being the confrontation between them and ending on a cliffhanger of shorts with the next season being Abby's storyline