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You would have to hit a modern super-carrier like 10 times below the waterline(This may not even work) or get people inside to place demolition charges, and these things are 30+ knot moving targets. Maybe you could do it by swarming multiple types of drones, but the only countries that can maybe do that are China and the US, under conditions that are very hard to pull off. For example, if China is dumb enough to go into the open ocean, which it won't do right now against the USN in the eastern Pacific, or the US gets too close to the Chinese coastline, and lets it get swarmed, which it won't do.

In fact, it's a scenario that is pretty funny. Imagine if both sides(China and the US) have sunk most of their ships, and their supercarriers are the only things remaining, and both sides are basically above mission killed ships doing fucked all, and being pulled forward with tugboats to board each other.

Well, one of these modern super-carriers couldn't avoid overflowing toilets, so I'd suggest taking every bit of hype about them with at least a couple of grains of salt.
 
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Calling setbacks for Eurovision a funny event in anti woke world would have been wild a few years back, but given how they are at the constant back and call of a genocide regime even in direct opposition of several European countries we can argue the event has devolved into being being part of anti woke world now. The objectively gayest event in the world being anti woke. Oh how times change.

Well it turns that after insisting of choosing Israeli participation over that of the Netherlands, Ireland, Spain and some other countries their ratings in the Netherlands has predictably tanked. Eurovision having sabotaged and disqualified the Dutch entree of two years ago without any apology or compensation cant have helped either.

Views that were 3,6 million last year have degraded to a mere 541.00 thousand. I think its relevant data since as far as I know Ireland and Spain do not even air Eurovision so this is the only metric that gauges a countries interest after Eurovision snubs them on behalf of a genocide state.

Quite frankly I want Israel to win because its what Eurovision deserves. They deserve the knowledge that Israel played them for a pack of fools to whitewash their blood soaked image. They deserve the gigantic headache of hosting Eurovision in wartime Tel Aviv and they deserve more European countries backing out when their choices become unsustainable.

From Israel's war crimes, their artists harassing other contestants or the Israeli government committing fraud with the votes Eurovision had every chance and reason to side against Israel by now. Even some of their biggest members and sponsors pulling out was not enough to end Israel's stranglehold. So they must get the outcome they so dearly want and deserve. If they want it to be a farce then just let it be a farce.
 
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For much the same reason you pay a marker even when the person taking the test passes it.
...so the argument is that these people are paid to function as literal gatekeepers of what is permissible (aka what passes and what fails)? And that that somehow simultaneously is absolutely vital and also does nothing at all? In your analogy, the marker is the determiner of whether or not the person taking the test did pass it and thus demonstrate whatever was being tested for, which is vital to the whole point of testing.

Because the claim is always that Anita, SBI, or other similar consultants have absolutely no impact on the resulting game whatsoever whenever someone suggests that their involvement should be a factor in considering what you do or don't want to engage with. If that's the case, why hire them? Either they have some impact on development or there's some other reason you are giving them money.
 

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You don't refute any of the things she said, you just start talking about something else and use ad-hominem attacks.
I explained how the DC->AC thing wasn't a big deal, relative to the rampant inefficiencies of fossil fuels.

Your response had no detail or substance, so there was nothing further to 'refute'.
 

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which you proceed to ignore.
When you make relevant criticisms, i take note.

Sometimes your criticisms are vague or insubstantial, resting on nothing more than the writer saying something you disapprove of.

Either way: you then proceed to rely on sources magnitudes worse. Twitter nobodies, hostile state media, or genocide apologists like Mate.
 

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You just don't have converters and it magically makes it a nonissue.
Actually, you sort of do. Its not magic, its just well established technology.

DC is converted to AC (and vice versa as needed) all the time. This is how many, many countries have already integrated renewables into their grids. There is a small loss when you do so, but afterwards, it "meshes" just fine.
 

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Actually, you sort of do. Its not magic, its just well established technology.

DC is converted to AC (and vice versa as needed) all the time. This is how many, many countries have already integrated renewables into their grids. There is a small loss when you do so, but afterwards, it "meshes" just fine.
Not that simple
 

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...so the argument is that these people are paid to function as literal gatekeepers of what is permissible (aka what passes and what fails)? And that that somehow simultaneously is absolutely vital and also does nothing at all? In your analogy, the marker is the determiner of whether or not the person taking the test did pass it and thus demonstrate whatever was being tested for, which is vital to the whole point of testing.

Because the claim is always that Anita, SBI, or other similar consultants have absolutely no impact on the resulting game whatsoever whenever someone suggests that their involvement should be a factor in considering what you do or don't want to engage with. If that's the case, why hire them? Either they have some impact on development or there's some other reason you are giving them money.
Okay. Partly, this perhaps depends on what you mean by terms like "doing nothing".

Essentially, this sounds like a form of quality assurance. Quality assurance is important, so the consultant is doing something that has value. But it might not result in any changes, either because what was produced in the first place was of sufficient quality, or maybe the company simply decides not to implement suggested changes. Or, we can think about the process that has occurred: if a company wants to be sensitive to minorities as a design choice and hires a consultant to help, what's the problem here? This is the dev's team intent and vision, not the consultant's.

If a consultant is brought in, the work doesn't necessarily have to represent the ideology of the consultant. For instance, there's a lot of middle ground between misogyny and feminism. If devs bring in a consultant to spot and remove potential misogyny, it doesn't necessarily mean the creative work is woke feminism, either: it could very easily still have a brooding, buff male hero laying waste to his enemies.

Some of the framing here possibly sounds a bit toxic and loaded. Like "gatekeeping". A consultant can advise, the company paying them doesn't have to do a damn thing the consultant says. This word suggests the consultant has been given some sort of power that she just does not have. Or, via the above, a sort of implication that the consultant is rigid and extremist and the work must fit that narrow view.
 
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Okay. Partly, this perhaps depends on what you mean by terms like "doing nothing".

Essentially, this sounds like a form of quality assurance. Quality assurance is important, so the consultant is doing something that has value. But it might not result in any changes, either because what was produced in the first place was of sufficient quality, or maybe the company simply decides not to implement suggested changes. Or, we can think about the process that has occurred: if a company wants to be sensitive to minorities as a design choice and hires a consultant to help, what's the problem here? This is the dev's team intent and vision, not the consultant's.

If a consultant is brought in, the work doesn't necessarily have to represent the ideology of the consultant. For instance, there's a lot of middle ground between misogyny and feminism. If devs bring in a consultant to spot and remove potential misogyny, it doesn't necessarily mean the creative work is woke feminism, either: it could very easily still have a brooding, buff male hero laying waste to his enemies.

Some of the framing here possibly sounds a bit toxic and loaded. Like "gatekeeping". A consultant can advise, the company paying them doesn't have to do a damn thing the consultant says. This word suggests the consultant has been given some sort of power that she just does not have. Or, via the above, a sort of implication that the consultant is rigid and extremist and the work must fit that narrow view.
And to follow up on this and answer the inevitable follow up question of "Why pay a consultant if you aren't going to listen to them?" Just ask anyone who's worked as an editor, or been asked advice specifically from someone, only to have them ignore that advice completely because they weren't actually seeking advice, but confirmation. They want to be told they were doing it right, not be told what they were doing wrong.
 
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One also notes that consultants who ask their name removed from a project because nobody listened to them are not unknown.
 

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One also notes that consultants who ask their name removed from a project because nobody listened to them are not unknown.
As are consultants who will give reams of advice and recommendations on a project, be dutifully ignored by all and sundry, and still leave their names on a project because hey: money is money and if the project is a success you might get more calls if your name is on it.
 

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Well, one of these modern super-carriers couldn't avoid overflowing toilets, so I'd suggest taking every bit of hype about them with at least a couple of grains of salt.
Ships, and in general naval vessels, aren't easy to build, maintain, operate, etc., and the Ford has a bunch of super new systems, so of course one would have broken unless you want this to take another five years or more manpower/welders that the US doesn't have.


That ship still has a bunch of damage control and various systems designed against capsizing, unlike a World War II battleship. That goes for future French, British, and type 3 and future type 4 carriers as well.
 

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He's lying; as soon as HE enters office, he will either knife his working-class voters and support the billionaires alongside a strict immigration policy that just creates a tier system or enforces it more, or he will likely face removal from office from the non-populist Congress, or if he's actually populist, he will be like an Obama but right-wing, but nothing gets done, but he won't because that means his rich friends won't like him, and it's basically a cost-benefit analysis. Would you rather live like Bernie Sanders and somewhat Obama, where the rich hate you or loathe you, or have your cake and eat it too and have both? Have the rich invite you to the cocktail circuits, and have a fanbase that likes you due to small things you do, like pretending to yell at Israel, and then I am sure afterwards you can send him weapons, etc. afterwards.

Few are going to give up tomahawk steaks or have the influence and power of a wealthy person to hang out with Joe the populist MAGA at a BBQ. A class traitor Tucker is not.
 

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Not that simple
Did you actually read the article you posted? Its about how grid-forming inverters allow renewables to interact with our power grids. Its exactly in line with what I've been saying.
 

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Yes, that tends to be about the extent of the care or thought you put into it. Which is exactly how we end up with uncritical reposting of shitstains like Mate. Do better.
 
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''concerned citizens'' strike again and tried setting fire to a asylum center with the asylum seekers still inside. Then they tried beating up the firefighters for good measures. Some simpletons call them ''concerned citizens'' but its just freaks and perhaps even outright terrorists.

Noteworthy is that most of the violence does not stem from citizens of the locations the asylum seekers are placed in. Instead there is a national network of proffesional rabble rousers who travel the country to infiltrate and take over local protests against asylum centers. Their chat history often has them been pretty open in their extremism and sometimes even open emulation of the Nazis.
 

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Did you actually read the article you posted? Its about how grid-forming inverters allow renewables to interact with our power grids. Its exactly in line with what I've been saying.
Pheonix stated that he was for nuclear power. These power station cannot be used for base loading as it takes too much time to wind up recreate the signal wave (sounds like America is at 60 Hertz) to maintain a stable flow

Asking a Nuclear power station to quickly change the rate of power can have apocalyptic consequences

Coal power station are pretty slow but it tends to not result in a black out as stated in this article. The turbines can keep the wave going but this is not definite. This also creates a single point of stress that can shut the whole network down

Gas fired station are way quicker to respond. They are also better as you can have smaller ones so that if one goes down, the whole network doesnt go doen. But the quickest is from batteries and grid forming inverters. It automatically makes the problem a non-issue and is not suspetible to single point disasterS

Lastly, keeping any large power station around makes no sense. Currently, in many countries, these station are being run for 3/4 of the day to cater for the 6 pm return home power spike. They cannot be turned off as they take so long to turn on and are running at a loss because renewables are cheaper than coal or nuclear.

Coal is only cheaper if the coal magically turns up in the power station. As you have already pointed out, this is a fallacy