10 Best Red One Drops
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Vexing Devil is at worst 4 damage for one red mana. That card is awesome and you are bad at playing Red.
Vexing devil is, at worst, a trade for things like Sedge Scorpion or a trade for a Bolt.cidbahamut said:
cidbahamut said:
I wasn't around to play with Vexing Devil in standard, but as someone who used to run Jund Scavenge thanks to Volraz the Scar Stripped, getting 4 +1/+1 counters for 1 red mana is pretty nice.ForumSafari said:
Also no love for the upcoming Zurgo Bellstriker? Or was this more of a list of things that have had an impact, and Zurgo hasn't struck yet?
What the Hell? Vexing devil is a great card. As a primary red player I find your exclusion offensive.
I've heard it's a hillarious EDH exchange spell combo commander, but I just can't fathom why would anyone want to put that much effort into building a deck just to do that.Draconalis said:
Gotta do it now.RaikuFA said:
[HEADING=1]Hell's bells![/HEADING]
Unrelated fake creature card that amused me:
mogg fanatic isn't on this list???
Granted, the tripping the mogg fantastic isn't as good as it used to be, but you're clearly judging these in context, otherwise firedrinker is strictly better than jackal pup. And I'm not convinced spark elemental should make the list.
but: Vexing devil is awful, people. There are a very small number of decks it is ok in, and after that I'd rather have a mon's gob most of the time. The worst of two ok options is still usually terrible.
Granted, the tripping the mogg fantastic isn't as good as it used to be, but you're clearly judging these in context, otherwise firedrinker is strictly better than jackal pup. And I'm not convinced spark elemental should make the list.
but: Vexing devil is awful, people. There are a very small number of decks it is ok in, and after that I'd rather have a mon's gob most of the time. The worst of two ok options is still usually terrible.
I refuse to believe Vexing Devil is awful it's two really good choices. I mean it's not like Delver of Secrets, Goblin Guide, Tarmogoyf and Dark Confidant which are very, very, very good (I can't think of an analogous creature in white, the best I could think of is Restoration Angel) but it's certainly not horrible. Both of it's effects are way above curve, a 4/3 for one or a 4 damage burn spell, it's weakness is that it dies to bolt and due to how omni-present the bolts and Path are you can't really afford to play it. While it's weakness is enough to stop it from seeing Modern play (I really don't know about vintage), saying it's anything less than a good card that can't be played is false.
As for a Varolz, the Scar-Striped there is already Death's Shadow which is a 13/13 for B and it's in color, there is a pretty fun tier 2/2.5 modern deck with that combo in it, dredgevine.
As for a Varolz, the Scar-Striped there is already Death's Shadow which is a 13/13 for B and it's in color, there is a pretty fun tier 2/2.5 modern deck with that combo in it, dredgevine.
ace_of_something said:
Slycne is exactly right, it is a pretty terrible card. No player in their right mind will let this thing stick. So I play it turn 1, my opponent looks at me funny, sets their life to 16 and my turn is over. Now my opponent starts their turn, they have 8 cards in hand vs my 5 cards in hand. That is a pretty big difference. Even though they are 4 life down it is not worth your early game momentum. On the other hand if I played something like [mtg_card=Tattermunge Maniac], [mtg_card=Kird Ape], [mtg_card=Figure of Destiny], or [mtg_card=Rakdos Cackler] I would have a creature on the board and they would have to use some kind of resource to get rid of it. Aggro decks are all about momentum and speed. [mtg_card=Vexing Devil] will only ever deal four damage no matter what the circumstance. The previously mentioned creatures can easily do that by turn 3 and more possible damage if they stick around longer. Most importantly, if your opponent wants to deal with those creatures their gonna have to use some of their removal.Slycne said:
Finally, this card is even worse in the late game. Dropping it when your opponent has stabilized isn't going to help you because one they won't need to take the damage to kill it and two they have something like [mtg_card=Baneslayer Angel] out and aren't threatened by it. Overall there are better creatures for early game and better burn for late game that can be used instead.
In other words, it's basically like almost all of the tribute cards, with a few exceptions being just okay.syaoran728 said:
Wow, er, I'm posting in an MtG thread. I always thought that comboing this with Memnite was fun... probably makes it my favorite by default.
As for Vexing Devil, the way I see it, anything that deliberately gives an opponent a choice gives them an advantage.
As for Vexing Devil, the way I see it, anything that deliberately gives an opponent a choice gives them an advantage.
Norin is hilarious in Modern Soul sisters with Purphorus downImre Csete said:I've heard it's a hillarious EDH exchange spell combo commander, but I just can't fathom why would anyone want to put that much effort into building a deck just to do that.Draconalis said:
That is true, but you're not always going to be able to kill the opponent before they stabilize. If you could then red deck wins would be more prevalent. With a few burn spells in hand you can finish off a stabilized opponent. I'm just saying that there are better creatures and burn spells that can be used in place of vexing devil.cidbahamut said: