The Pirate Bay Knocks Anonymous

The Wooster

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The Pirate Bay Knocks Anonymous


Anonymous' DDOS attack on ISP, Virgin Media, is a "form of censorship."

So says The Pirate Bay.

"We do NOT encourage these actions. We believe in the open and free internets, where anyone can express their views. Even if we strongly disagree with them and even if they hate us," read a Facebook message from the Pirate Bay staff. "So don't fight them using their ugly methods. DDOS and blocks are both forms of censorship."

The DDOS attack, perpetrated by hacking group, Anonymous, was a response to Virgin Media's compliance with a high court ruling that requires British ISP to block access to The Pirate Bay. Anonymous' rage seems misguided, given that last year Virgin was one of several ISPs that refused to voluntarily block the popular file sharing site. While Virgin media is now actively blocking the site, the company insists that "changing consumer behavior to tackle copyright infringement also needs compelling legal alternatives, such as our agreement with Spotify, to give consumers access to great content at the right price."

The Pirate Bay asks that any users who support their cause, do so in a more positive and legal fashion:

"If you want to help; start a tracker, arrange a manifestation, join or start a pirate party, teach your friends the art of bittorrent, set up a proxy, write your political representatives, develop a new p2p protocol, print some pro piracy posters and decorate your town with, support our promo bay artists or just be a nice person and give your mom a call to tell her you love her."

Source The Verge [http://www.theverge.com/2012/5/11/3014897/pirate-bay-anonymous-virgin-ddos]

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StriderShinryu

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I totally approve of this. While I agree at least in part with Anon on a lot of what they go up against, their basic methods tend to come across as ineffectual at best and childish at worst. Anon could possibly be a major force, for good or evil, but they tend to portary themselves more often than not as spolied bratty children and it ends uup undermining much of what they fight for.
 

Tradjus

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I think that The Pirate Bay knows it has a massive target painted on it's back, and this is just a way of hedging it's bets against being accused of secretly being behind the planning of the DDoS attacks with Anonymous. My bet? They probably had nothing to do with it, but I think they support it a heck of a lot more than they are letting on.
 

II2

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Kinda a surreal moment, but I'm not surprised.

Regardless of how genuinely you think the Swedish pirate party / pirate bay guys believe their own rhetoric, they have been consistent about it.
 

llafnwod

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Tradjus said:
I think that The Pirate Bay knows it has a massive target painted on it's back, and this is just a way of hedging it's bets against being accused of secretly being behind the planning of the DDoS attacks with Anonymous. My bet? They probably had nothing to do with it, but I think they support it a heck of a lot more than they are letting on.
... What would they have to gain from Virgin Media being DDoSed? Anon is Anon; they DDoS things. TPB is an organization with defined interests, none of which are served by vandalism.
 

Phlakes

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Now I still don't agree with piracy, but that's something I can get behind. Being a dick (see: DDoSing shit) will only make things worse.
 

The Ubermensch

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DDoS attacks... The cudgel to the .50 BMG of security bypasses. The guys started up a P2P network, I'm pretty sure they can do a lot worse than a frigging DDoS attack.
 

LetalisK

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I predict the Anon response to this will be a well-written and heartfelt treatise on how being rebuked by a supposed ally led them to the realization that their ultimately ineffective attacks, particularly against a former beacon of hope among their community, not only hurts their movement from a PR perspective but also sours their soul as they slowly but surely begin to take on more and more characteristics of the monster with which they seek to destroy.

I'm just kidding, it's going to be more petulant flailing. It's what they do.
 

BrotherRool

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FelixG said:
And the pirates are more civilized than the government trying to censor them, why am I not surprised?
Because pirating games is a method of expression? Because the real reason is that the games people are playing are anti-government and the only way to come across this message is to play them without paying the people who made them?

You're being a bit silly :D Stopping people from pirating games isn't really censuring expression. You know what else the government censures? And if even the only way to really express who you are you know what I mean man, is by completely ignoring the rights of other people to make stuff and sell it, well some things are censure and its good they're censured, speaking whatever you want isn't some be all end all grail of human society. Calling other people c****** faggots and inciting violence on them because they're a different sexuality/race than you is censured for instance.

Or in less extreme example if a highstreet shop makes it's money selling stuff it doesn't actually own or counterfeit goods, the police closes down that shop, because you know, selling illegal stuff is illegal.

You can't just yell censorship and uncivilised behaviour, your meant to have a point too :D