Anonymous Seeks to Legalize DDoS Attacks

Andy Chalk

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Anonymous Seeks to Legalize DDoS Attacks


The good folks of Anonymous want the U.S. government to declare DDoS attacks a constitutionally-protected form of protest.

Distributed denial-of-service attacks are kind of a hallmark of Anonymous. The group - and yes, I realize it's more of an amorphous mob of whoever feels like getting up to hijinks at any particular moment - decides that it's really mad about something, issues the standard "We Are Legion" boilerplate and then blammo, somebody rolls out the Low Orbit Ion Cannon. Aggravation abounds.

It's illegal, naturally, but some sharp thinkers are trying to change that through a petition filed on the official White House web site. "With the advance in internet technology, comes new grounds for protesting. Distributed denial-of-service (DDoS), is not any form of hacking in any way. It is the equivalent of repeatedly hitting the refresh button on a webpage," the petition, entitled "Make distributed denial-of-service (DDoS) a legal form of protesting," states.

"It is, in that way, no different than any 'occupy' protest," it continues. "Instead of a group of people standing outside a building to occupy the area, they are having their computer occupy a website to slow (or deny) service of that particular website for a short time." The petition also calls for the release of people who have been jailed for launching DDoS attacks.

It's a silly idea with no hope of success, but it does actually have some grounding in legitimacy. The First Amendment declares, among other things, that Congress shall make no law abridging the right of the people "peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances," which according to the Illinois First Amendment Center [http://www.illinoisfirstamendmentcenter.com/freedoms.php] expressly provides the right of the public "to march, protest, demonstrate, carry signs and otherwise express their views in a nonviolent way." That, the petition contends, is exactly what Anonymous is doing with its DDoS attacks.

The DDoS petition is seeking 25,000 signatures by February 6, but even if it manages to collect them - and it's still well short of the first thousand at this point - it will almost certainly be ignored by the U.S. government. Even so it's an interesting idea, wouldn't you say?

Source: GamePolitics [https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/make-distributed-denial-service-ddos-legal-form-protesting/X3drjwZY]


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Abomination

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No. It is one thing to "peaceably assemble" but when you actively disrupt someone's place of business it becomes illegal.

This is not the same as an organised protest, this is like covering the entrance and exit to a car park of a business in such a manner that it prevents even the owner from accessing his store.
 

Rack

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Wow, just, wow. Why not cut out the middlemen and just ask the U.S. Government to ban the Internet?
 

Ken Sapp

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Performing a DDoS attack is a way to cause damage to private property and just as the First Amendment does not give protestors the right to intrude on or destroy private property it also wouldn't allow an electronic form of destruction. If they want to protest they are more than welcome to build their own websites to spread their message as well as using forums, Twitter, Facebook, and other social media.
 

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The difference here is that they aren't occupying public spaces or free speech zones. What they're doing is more like gathering in a corporate HQ's lobby and blocking all of the doorways. They're essentially denying websites and their customers the ability to do business.
 

The_Great_Galendo

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The analogy comparing DDoS attacks to people physically protesting an event is critically flawed. I suspect it probably would be legal for individual people to sit at their computers and physically hit the refresh button on their browsers in concert, just like it would be legal to physically boycott a business to scare off customers.

The critical difference, in my mind, is that I don't think that any DDoS attack has physical people clicking physical buttons in unison. Rather, the attack is just a snippet of code running on a bunch of (probably botnetted) computers, which is much more akin to a single individual stealing some cement from a bunch of people and using it to encase the place of business in concrete.
 

BrotherRool

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Yeah it's not peacable and it's not a very good way of expressing yourself. Whats more good tech can make you more effective, reducing the idea of a protest assembly
 

Tharwen

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Anonymous are a load of self-centred children. They don't understand that attacking people you disagree with is entirely the wrong way to get what you want, and also utterly hypocritical.
 

LysanderNemoinis

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I don't really see much difference between Anonymous and the Occupy bunch; they have the same ideals, the same politics, hate all the same groups, and both deserve to take a big, fat bite of sweet, sweet nightstick.
 

Tiger Sora

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Isn't disruption of electronic communication is illegal, and most likely including websites in America?
Not to mention it could have negative economic effects on the sites owner/business/charity. Something they don't like to have happen.
Success chance: 0%

Also, people saying it's an attack on private property here, so yeh.

Bad plan, poor execution (Has the government actually acted on any of those petitions since they started that thing)? Mayhaps Anon may just continue business as usual, instead of trying to petition with their greatest enemy.

Captcha: meddling kids

Says the angry old American congressman.
 

Fox334

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Because the botnets DDoS use are made up of people that willingly gave their bandwidth. Right.
 

Gilhelmi

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BAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHA, *snif* BAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHA

Ah, that is the stupidest thing I have heard. They think they have a prayer to get such an absurd law passed.

Whats next? Trying to make it legal to disrupt elections to sway election? Trying to make voter fraud legal? Sadly, some are trying to do these things to. At least they have no chance either.

Lucky Godzilla said:
Anonymous, protecting the freedom of the internet by blocking one web site at a time
"Anonymous, protecting free speech, by denying others free speech"
 

Baresark

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I see what they are going for, but it's not the remotely same thing as the occupy movement or non violent public assembly. In those situations people are there with a point that they are stating to passers by. Making these legal doesn't make sense. I don't like Facebook, that doesn't mean I should be allowed to DDoS them to hell.
 

Roxas1359

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Gilhelmi said:
BAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHA, *snif* BAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHA

Ah, that is the stupidest thing I have heard. They think they have a prayer to get such an absurd law passed.

Whats next? Trying to make it legal to disrupt elections to sway election? Trying to make voter fraud legal? Sadly, some are trying to do these things to. At least they have no chance either.

Lucky Godzilla said:
Anonymous, protecting the freedom of the internet by blocking one web site at a time
"Anonymous, protecting free speech, by denying others free speech"
Don't say it's the stupidest thing as I guarantee that there will be something even stupider later on.

OT: Yeah there is a difference between a peaceful protest and disrupting a business so that there is no way for them to do anything. This will never work and is a terrible idea.
As others have said "Anonymous, protecting your freedom of speech by denying it to other people."
 

Timedraven 117

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Tiger Sora said:
Isn't disruption of electronic communication is illegal, and most likely including websites in America?
Not to mention it could have negative economic effects on the sites owner/business/charity. Something they don't like to have happen.
Success chance: 0%

Also, people saying it's an attack on private property here, so yeh.

Bad plan, poor execution (Has the government actually acted on any of those petitions since they started that thing)? Mayhaps Anon may just continue business as usual, instead of trying to petition with their greatest enemy.

Captcha: meddling kids

Says the angry old American congressman.
Yes they have been actually working on those petitions. They even talked about a petition asking the polititions to stop making political answers when answering the petitions, you know where you have no idea what they support or are trying ot get at.

OT: As everyone said its illegal for a reason.

Also they can't claim first amendment rights for this because, due to the fact that it is not public or government property they are protesting on, but private i business sites, which if its private business land you can't protest there anyways if they tel you to leave. Its fails even before it reaches the first hurdle.
 

Not G. Ivingname

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I agree with what Anonymous 112%. Completely severing the ability to get onto a website is the same as standing the door of a business and stating you displeasure!

Guys, we need to stop applying logic to this situation. Anonymous may come after US next. D: