Sexy Characters

Yahtzee Croshaw

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Sexy Characters

A character is sexual when one could actually picture them having sex. A character is merely sexualised if they have extremely prominent sexual characteristics but seem completely unwilling or incapable of doing anything with them.

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Evonisia

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So once again Suda 51 shows a more 'mature' take on relationships/characters (well, sex actually), albeit in an immature minigame style. Suda 51 really needs to get his priorities straight, but I'm glad that he's willing to put a little bit of effort into the characterisation, even if a little.

Thankfully the internet flame about sex seems to have died down a little, or maybe not many people have bought Killer is Dead.
 

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Well, I wouldn't say being sexual necessarily equates to being more mature, but more mature than being sexualised, yes.
 

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Yahtzee Croshaw said:
It's hard to tell, because his 'liking the ladies' face seems to be exactly the same as his 'killing the nasties' face.
Missed out on the chance for a terrible joke: "It's hard to tell, because his 'bumping the uglies' face seems to be exactly the same as his 'bumping off the uglies' face.
 

Falseprophet

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Ezio's another example. Ezio's clearly into the ladies, puts a lot of effort into flirting with them, and usually gets it returned in equal measure. And he's clearly capable of having a mature and healthy sex life, even though he does have his ladyfriends kidnapped out from under him once in a while. But in his defense, that's in the history books [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caterina_Sforza#Capture_by_Cesare_Borgia].
 

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I see where you are going with this but I feel there are flaws in this train of thought. Not sure what they are, I don't really have any examples, but I believe my subconscious picked up on them. I am inclined to agree in part but the last two paragraphs made me want to disagree for some reason that I can't nail down.
 

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I wouldn't agree that characters that have sexualised personalities were necessarily bad as some people have far larger labidos than others, at least I think that's what you were implying with the paragraph that mentioned Bayonetta... not that i'm holding up Bayonetta as a well balanced person, she's played for laughs after all.
 

RJ Dalton

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Kudos on this article. It puts into words something I've been thinking about and trying to put into words.
Especially that bit about the sexualized characters being riddled with insecurities.
 

Thanatos2k

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Watch any anime for 5 minutes and you'll be overwhelmed by sexualized yet insecure characters.
 

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Thanatos2k said:
Watch any anime for 5 minutes and you'll be overwhelmed by sexualized yet insecure characters.
Oh, ignorant generalizations. Don't ever change.

Tell you what, I'd like you point out the sexualized yet insecure characters present in anything made by Studio Ghibli for me.

I'll wait.

OT: just curious, am I the only one surprised that Tomb Raider didn't come up in this? By which I mean the series in general, not the latest entry specifically.
 

Moth_Monk

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Sigmund Freud did a massive disservice to psychology. Now you have people like Yahtzee saying crazy things like that knights who want to avenge their slain loved one are doing because they are "sexually insecure" (<-- what does that even mean) or some shit... *sigh*

Edit: Also, when I was fourteen, I can say unequivocally that when I was a 14 boy, I would have taken up an offer of sex faster than Sonic the Hedgehog can run with power sneakers on.
 

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I've reread this four times and I can confidently say Yatzhee, I have no clue what you're going on about. Something about sexuality vs sexual?
Regarding the topic of sex in video games, I read an article - maybe even on the escapist - where the writer said the Mass Effect games were way more pornographic than any of the strange Japanese games or GTA styled games. Simply put, the emotional connection you made with a love interest was so powerful that the love scenes meant something, rather than banging a hooker and shooting her afterwards. Personally I think Tali or Liara are one hundred times sexier than any of the big-boobed bimbos in any sandbox you care to mention.

Anyways, can't wait for your Amnesia: Machine for Pigs review.
 

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PunkRex said:
I wouldn't agree that characters that have sexualised personalities were necessarily bad as some people have far larger labidos than others, at least I think that's what you were implying with the paragraph that mentioned Bayonetta... not that i'm holding up Bayonetta as a well balanced person, she's played for laughs after all.
He's talking about the tendency to present or characterize the dynamics of sexual desire and/or sexual interactions between genders as awkwardly adversarial in nature.
 

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Silentpony said:
I've reread this four times and I can confidently say Yatzhee, I have no clue what you're going on about. Something about sexuality vs sexual?
Regarding the topic of sex in video games, I read an article - maybe even on the escapist - where the writer said the Mass Effect games were way more pornographic than any of the strange Japanese games or GTA styled games. Simply put, the emotional connection you made with a love interest was so powerful that the love scenes meant something, rather than banging a hooker and shooting her afterwards. Personally I think Tali or Liara are one hundred times sexier than any of the big-boobed bimbos in any sandbox you care to mention.

Anyways, can't wait for your Amnesia: Machine for Pigs review.
That's more or less the complete opposite of pornographic, which is about the act itself and not about the emotions or other "high-minded" stuff. I think the word you are looking for is something along the lines of "hot".
 

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Remember kids, you should be ashamed of any sexual drive you feel. So go and waste yourself with unlimited amounts of porn and perversions. Gotta love puritanism.
 

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I don't know what to think in this case... Games being the interactive media we have made it to today, is no more than a few perferts away from making games where all you do is (Insert own sexual innuendo/sexual Joke/reference to the sex-genitals/coytis), with the means to do so, and before we know it: WE ARE DOING it ON THE BIG HD SCREEN!

Really... I just give the awkward laugh when a character try to make sexual advances in a game. Either the graphis is not high enough for me to believe it, there is a glitch, wrong phrase of words or another completely innocent fault in the game, that makes me unable to think of it as something that is actually happening... And it doesn't help that the character is over-sexualised to the point where he/she cant walk around without a wheelbarrow to carry around their prospective sex-flattering parts... I mean, I laugh at the situation and the way it's set up, more than I laugh at the overall attempt to act human.
 

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Khanht Cope said:
PunkRex said:
I wouldn't agree that characters that have sexualised personalities were necessarily bad as some people have far larger labidos than others, at least I think that's what you were implying with the paragraph that mentioned Bayonetta... not that i'm holding up Bayonetta as a well balanced person, she's played for laughs after all.
He's talking about the tendency to present or characterize the dynamics of sexual desire and/or sexual interactions between genders as awkwardly adversarial in nature.
Ooooooooh, like being angry at a man/woman for being a man/woman despite that thats what attracts you to them.
 

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Shjade said:
Thanatos2k said:
Watch any anime for 5 minutes and you'll be overwhelmed by sexualized yet insecure characters.
Oh, ignorant generalizations. Don't ever change.

Tell you what, I'd like you point out the sexualized yet insecure characters present in anything made by Studio Ghibli for me.

I'll wait.

OT: just curious, am I the only one surprised that Tomb Raider didn't come up in this? By which I mean the series in general, not the latest entry specifically.
Not to mention he seems to glance over the fact that alot of it is used for humorous purposes or the fact that 'over the top' tends to be a thing in alot of animes.
 

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What Yahtzee said about the angry lady in the armored bikini makes me think he wouldn't like reading Red Sonja comic books. Or he did long ago, and that's what got him to that conclusion about sexualized characters.
Evonisia said:
So once again Suda 51 shows a more 'mature' take on relationships/characters (well, sex actually), albeit in an immature minigame style. Suda 51 really needs to get his priorities straight, but I'm glad that he's willing to put a little bit of effort into the characterisation, even if a little.

Thankfully the internet flame about sex seems to have died down a little, or maybe not many people have bought Killer is Dead.
So, kudos to Suda 51, I think. Yahtzee did say in his Lollipop Chainsaw review that Suda's portrayal of female characters is comparatively more positive than other game devs (which is probably bad news for the industry overall).
Falseprophet said:
Ezio's another example. Ezio's clearly into the ladies, puts a lot of effort into flirting with them, and usually gets it returned in equal measure. And he's clearly capable of having a mature and healthy sex life, even though he does have his ladyfriends kidnapped out from under him once in a while. But in his defense, that's in the history books [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caterina_Sforza#Capture_by_Cesare_Borgia].
I still get a little misty-eyed when I think of how things ended between Ezio and Cristina Vespucci. Then I cheer up thinking about how he and Sofia Sartor got together in Constantinople. There were main story missions that had you do favors for her and woo her.