Microsoft's Greenberg Says Sony Is "Out Of Touch"

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Microsoft's Greenberg Says Sony Is "Out Of Touch"


In response to Kaz Hirai's recent comment that the Xbox 360 lacks "longevity," [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/88813] Microsoft's Aaron Greenberg stuck his tongue out and said, "Nyah nyah."

No, he didn't actually say that, but he did point out what he sees as a flaw in Hirai's argument in Official PlayStation Magazine that Sony would eventually emerge as the dominant player in the videogame industry despite bringing up the rear in current-gen console sales. "This sounds like an old hardware company that's comfortable with its market position," Greenberg, the director of product management for the The Bitbag [http://www.xbox.com]. "That complacent attitude is out of touch with where the industry and consumer is today."

Also out of touch, apparently, is the idea that the best hardware will necessarily be the most successful product, a point driven home with perhaps a touch of irony by the Nintendo Wii [http://www.wii.com]. "This generation won't be won over just hardware specs, but who can out-innovate when it comes to online and software," he continued. "This is the kind of stuff that's in our DNA, and frankly moves the console war onto our home court."

The "console war" between the Xbox 360 and the excluded [http:?/www.playstation.com] from the tussle between Microsoft and Sony.

"I'm confident we will outsell the PS3 throughout the entire generation by providing more innovation and building the best and broadest games library while growing our entertainment experiences on the leading online network," Greenberg said. "With a U.S. install base lead now of more than 7 million units (according to NPD [http://www.npd.com/]), I can't imagine any scenario where the PS3 can catch up with us. In fact, even if you doubled the current PS3 sales and Xbox 360 remained flat, they couldn't close the gap until 2014."

Which, interestingly, is the year VentureBeat predicted the Wii will surpass the PlayStation 2 as the best-selling console of all time [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/88814-Wii-On-Track-To-Become-The-Best-Selling-Console-Of-All-Time].

But isn't this all getting a little tiresome? Microsoft [http://www.sony.com] bleats about higher sales and fanboys on both sides of the fence explode with rage, but ultimately, so what? Both companies are pushing forward with plans they believe are the best for the industry, and unlike past years when the gamer demographic was far tighter, most analysts agree that it's possible for two or even three major consoles - which is to say, all of them - to survive and thrive in today's market. So why is it necessary to keep shooting spitballs at one another from across the room?

via: EuroGamer [http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/sony-is-out-of-touch-says-microsoft]


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PedroSteckecilo

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In response to both Microsoft and Sony's stupidly broad statements, I Pedro Steckecilo invoke the spirit of Emperor Palpatine as he appears in Joe Loves Crappy Movies...

All together now...

Uhhhhhhh Duuuuuuuuhhhhhhhh!

(Roughly Translates To: Yeah pretty much what we expected, no suprises here, same old same old)
 

Baby Tea

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What I like about those whole article is the final paragraph (Not saying the rest was bad, mind you).

I can't understand why people make such a big deal over stuff like this. I can understand the employees of Microsoft and Sony making a big deal about it, since it's their job and livelihood. But why consumers? I'm pretty sure there isn't anything in the 'Terms of Use' that talks about singing the corporate anthem with gusto.

I really liked the analogy of a school playground, since people just have to grow up.
 

super_smash_jesus

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Boy, this bickering between these 2 companies makes me laugh. Eventually, Microsoft will respond by saying "well, my dad can beat up your dad!", and then sony will give xbox a wedgie, resulting in detention for the 2 until they can sort out their disagreements in a civilized manner.
 

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Malygris said:
The "console war" between the Xbox 360 and the excluded [http:?/www.playstation.com] from the tussle between Microsoft and Sony.
A fine analogy, sir. That's definetly how the companies and the fanboys are seeing it, anyway.
 

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Malygris said:
So why is it necessary to keep shooting spitballs at one another from across the room?
Because it's fun to watch. Though it's not nearly as great as "Genesis does what Nintendon't".

SEGA!
 

Odjin

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Rofl... nice article... especially since all 3 consoles become crappier with each new generation. A couple of spoiled brats roughing each other up on the school yard while the grown up are doing the real stuff ( aka playing where games are supposed to be: on the PC :p )
 

blackcherry

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I think I remember a time when I cared about company mudslinging. It was about the age of 14 when I didn't know any better. That was a looong time ago.

I'm kind of mildly apathetic now and like any good brit, only look forward to the latest Sony/Microsoft spat so I can have a bloody good complain about it.
 

SaintWaldo

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Open combat. I love it. I think Kaz could take Aaron any day of the week in an open bar brawl. More so if pool cues are present.
 

Anton P. Nym

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YEEEEEEAH SLAPFIGHT!

I do have this mental image of the two Geeks-in-Chief windmilling away ineffectually at each other while the rest of the playground stands by, watching and laughing. (And, as pointed out above, as Nintendo keeps gathering in the lunch money.)

Sad, sad indeed that multi-billion-revenue companies are resorting to this.

-- Steve
 

TheRightToArmBears

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Innovation??? Who does he think he's kidding? The wii has the only thing even remotely innovative in the current gen. I think they're just bickering for our entertainment now and are actually good friends.
 

bad rider

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Screw this, can't we just have them fight to the death? It would make a great and unique way of ending the console war
 

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Malygris said:
In response to Kaz Hirai's recent comment that the Xbox 360 lacks "longevity," Microsoft's Aaron Greenberg stuck his tongue out and said, "Nyah nyah."
That's pretty much what the console war is about. It's a pissing competition between Sony and Microsoft that Nintendo are winning.
 
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Radelaide said:
Malygris said:
In response to Kaz Hirai's recent comment that the Xbox 360 lacks "longevity," Microsoft's Aaron Greenberg stuck his tongue out and said, "Nyah nyah."
That's pretty much what the console war is about. It's a pissing competition between Sony and Microsoft that Nintendo are winning.
It's quite funny to think that Microsoft and Sony developed these big expensive high-end consoles and they are being beaten in sales by a console which looks like a CD drive and has far lower specs. This makes me chuckle.
 

Isaac Dodgson

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Microsoft's best response would of been to laugh it off and ignore it... But no, they come back with a "OH yeah?? Well Take this!" kind of remark...

Let the flame war of corporate giants begin...
 

Radelaide

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baggyn said:
Radelaide said:
Malygris said:
In response to Kaz Hirai's recent comment that the Xbox 360 lacks "longevity," Microsoft's Aaron Greenberg stuck his tongue out and said, "Nyah nyah."
That's pretty much what the console war is about. It's a pissing competition between Sony and Microsoft that Nintendo are winning.
It's quite funny to think that Microsoft and Sony developed these big expensive high-end consoles and they are being beaten in sales by a console which looks like a CD drive and has far lower specs. This makes me chuckle.
Sony and Microsoft: Our e-peens are bigger!
Nintendo: But it's not the size that counts, it's how you market it.
 

Knight Templar

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Onmi said:
oh what did I say? that both companies were squabbling children? yes indeed! I loved in the last thread how everyone was "Oh you dont see Microsoft doing this, only Sony's acting like a child."

This is how companies work.

on the maturity level of fucking 5 year olds.
Yeah but this round score is: Sony, 2 Microsoft, 1.

This game is like golf you don't want a large score, but do not worry MS will catch up in no time! Anyway I thought the problem people had was the bitching, not anything to do with Microsoft Vs Sony.