Trust me, speaking as someone who's seen endless arguing about this particular issue, this isn't really something that either side could solve to the complete satisfaction of the other. There's simply too many assumptions. For example, someone who supported Superman could point out Goku can't survive in a vacuum, and that if it came to a battle to the death, Superman could always grab Goku and fly him up into high orbit- something that the source material would suggest he is strong and fast enough to pull off. But then the person who supports Goku would point out that Goku could just use instant transmission to get back to Earth. And the person who supports Superman would point out that Goku has had difficulty using instant transmission in cases of extreme stress, such as when he was being chased by a powerful energy blast. On. And on. And ON.Davroth said:Goku would win hands down.
If it's a battle to the death, he'd ultimately destroy the sun and rob Superman of the source of his power. Even early DBZ Goku was capable of that already most likely. And yes, that would destroy the earth as well, but it wouldn't be the first planet that has to be saved by Dragon Balls...
Counter point: Goku, and half his friends, can destroy the Earth with ease, if they so desire. It would literally take a fraction of his power to do so.katsabas said:Power wise, Superman has actually lifted the earth. So yeah. But in this case, I am giving the edge to Goku because of the simple fact stated through his first two lines.
No it is that easy, they both god mode but Goku can take out planets, while that might not kill sups it means Goku is more powerful.SeventhSigil said:Trust me, speaking as someone who's seen endless arguing about this particular issue, this isn't really something that either side could solve to the complete satisfaction of the other. There's simply too many assumptions. For example, someone who supported Superman could point out Goku can't survive in a vacuum, and that if it came to a battle to the death, Superman could always grab Goku and fly him up into high orbit- something that the source material would suggest he is strong and fast enough to pull off. But then the person who supports Goku would point out that Goku could just use instant transmission to get back to Earth. And the person who supports Superman would point out that Goku has had difficulty using instant transmission in cases of extreme stress, such as when he was being chased by a powerful energy blast. On. And on. And ON.Davroth said:Goku would win hands down.
If it's a battle to the death, he'd ultimately destroy the sun and rob Superman of the source of his power. Even early DBZ Goku was capable of that already most likely. And yes, that would destroy the earth as well, but it wouldn't be the first planet that has to be saved by Dragon Balls...
In the idea you put forward, it would likely be more a stalemate. Again, Superman can survive in a vacuum, and in the comics he is even capable of interstellar flight, under his own power, suggesting that just because a yellow sun vanishes, doesn't mean he automatically loses his power. (otherwise he wouldn't be able to so much as leave the solar system) that actually happens in the event of a red sun. Rather, sunless, he still has his proverbial batteries to draw upon. Granted, destroying the sun would give Goku an advantage in a pitched fight, but since that would destroy the Earth as well, (biiig shockwave) Goku would have to either leave Earth seconds after detonating the sun, via instant transmission, or die along with the rest the planet.
But again, this is the problem of the entire argument. They used two entirely different source materials, from two entirely different cultures for that matter, so trying to draw a direct comparison borders on impossible. Especially when you consider how wildly Superman's power varies between various comic sources and all those animated series. I'm not even counting before the reboot, when he could destroy entire solar systems by sneezing.
Frankly given god mode sups durability even that wont kill him. More like Goku would lure him out and whack him against mars a few times but still you might be able to beat Sups but I doubt you could kill him least not god mode sups.Joseph Wallace said:If Goku's only chance is to destroy Earth and/or the sun to beat Superman he's not going to do it to win a fight with one person to destroy billions of others. Yes planet Namek was destroyed with his fight with Freeza but it was Freeza that attacked the planet to destroy it. Goku would not outright nuke a planet {that ive seen) although not seeing every freaking episode I cant be sure but im going to go out on a limb and say no he wouldn't attack billions of others to win a fight with one.
First off, it is a rap battle, not fan made battle to death, secondly Goku fucking kills it. If you watch it, the last line makes it clear that Goku is better than Superman in this rap battle.TheMemoman said:Nooo... I'm sick of these. Goku is a great character and I love it. It's horrible to see him getting beat by the laziest character ever written: super some-guy. He has super this, and super that, and he's super intelligent, and super charming and can destroy galaxies with a fart... So unless Goku has a pair of kryptonite brass knuckles, I know how it ends. A well defined character is beaten by the limitless and obtuse qualifying adjective of "super".
Yes, I know Superman has been punched to death once. Sort of. It was a gimmick.
Ok, I just did. It was fucking awesome!Spade Lead said:First off, it is a rap battle, not fan made battle to death, secondly Goku fucking kills it. If you watch it, the last line makes it clear that Goku is better than Superman in this rap battle.TheMemoman said:Nooo... I'm sick of these. Goku is a great character and I love it. It's horrible to see him getting beat by the laziest character ever written: super some-guy. He has super this, and super that, and he's super intelligent, and super charming and can destroy galaxies with a fart... So unless Goku has a pair of kryptonite brass knuckles, I know how it ends. A well defined character is beaten by the limitless and obtuse qualifying adjective of "super".
Yes, I know Superman has been punched to death once. Sort of. It was a gimmick.
Seriously, watch the video. I hate Superman and have never been a fan of Dragonball or Dragon Ball or however you write it, but Goku had some truly great lines in this rap.