It's supposed to be a funny look at parts of manly movies that make guys cry. The goal is for dudebros to realize their macho movies have emotional cores.EnigmaticSevens said:I... I... just... what is this? I mean what is this supposed to be? I'm terribly confused. It's like someone took Sunshine, a fantastic little film with oodles of complexity backed in and a truly sorrowful, melancholic beauty, and just... I don't know, reduced it until it becomes nonsensical and then dipped it in some odd caricature (god I hope it's caricature) of dudebro.... I mean is this parody, an honest review?
Oh thank god, the parody is implicit! That is a massive relief... i was, I was very worried for a moment there. Well I suppose it's a lovely enough spring board for a discussion concerning the inherent emotional nature of damn near any creative expression. Though I don't know if you'll meet your stated goal... dudebro and average escapist reader seem to be pretty mutually exclusive groups and naming Sunshine a manly movie feels akin to naming the Fountain a 'manly' movie (though... I wouldn't be at odds with that definition of manliness... come to think of it).Firefilm said:It's supposed to be a funny look at parts of manly movies that make guys cry. The goal is for dudebros to realize their macho movies have emotional cores.EnigmaticSevens said:I... I... just... what is this? I mean what is this supposed to be? I'm terribly confused. It's like someone took Sunshine, a fantastic little film with oodles of complexity backed in and a truly sorrowful, melancholic beauty, and just... I don't know, reduced it until it becomes nonsensical and then dipped it in some odd caricature (god I hope it's caricature) of dudebro.... I mean is this parody, an honest review?
Does that help?
Oh man, you're so right! When he just trips and is so angry with himself! Love it.The_Darkness said:Honestly?
Sunshine is probably at the top spot of my favourite movie list. Oh, there are good movies, there are fantastic movies, there's 12 Angry Men and The Avengers all struggling for a place...
And then there's this. I can't quite put my finger on it, but there's something about this film that just is. It's... real. Despite the fact that the plot revolves around the sun dying for unspecified-unless-you-read-the-website reasons.
Although guys, I have to say, you missed my own personal favourite moment, shortly after Chris Evans gets frozen (again - no wonder he's good at acting it, he's had a lot of practise). When, despite everything, Capa falls over. It's funny, humbling, heartbreaking and terrifying all at once. And Cillian Murphy absolutely sells it.
This is an opportune time to bring up Chris Evans' role in The Iceman. You know what his character is called? Mr. Freezy.Firefilm said:Why Sci-Fi Thriller Sunshine Makes Guys Cry
Why didn't they just go ahead and call it Sobshine?
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What's even more moving is you can see the weight of all of humanity's future on his back when tries to get up, he is hurt, tired, but he knows he cannot stop and if he fails, he fails everyone. Capa's Jump, and Kaneda's sacrifice are probably the greatest Sci-Fi I have seen in years. Searle's fanatical obsession with the Sun, the "Tell me what you see?!?!" part of Kaneda's sacrifice... Wow, it was envy in his voice I heard, not pity or fear. He wanted to punch out like that, and he did. I also don't get the hatred from the last act, Pinbacker is one of my all time favorite villains, a man whose only goal is to be the last human alive, alone with God. How fucking crazy is that? He also has one of the greatest quotes I have ever heard in a movie...Firefilm said:Oh man, you're so right! When he just trips and is so angry with himself! Love it.
How tiny and insignificant that makes me feel. He may have been a slasher in space, but there was far more to him than any Jason, Freddy or Michael.At the end of time, a moment will come when just one man remains. Then the moment will pass. Man will be gone. There will be nothing to show that we were ever here... but stardust. ~Pinbacker
Well, The Fountain is about a man's struggle to deal with his grief at the potential loss of a loved one, and how he deals/ignores the emotions related to it. So yeah, I would say it's a manly movie xD Since the entire story is about a man's emotional state over time. I love The Fountain btw, especially the soundtrack. It's so powerful and intimate. It feels like the sound of someone sitting in a room alone, in the quiet, dealing with their thoughts. Love it love it love it.EnigmaticSevens said:Oh thank god, the parody is implicit! That is a massive relief... i was, I was very worried for a moment there. Well I suppose it's a lovely enough spring board for a discussion concerning the inherent emotional nature of damn near any creative expression. Though I don't know if you'll meet your stated goal... dudebro and average escapist reader seem to be pretty mutually exclusive groups and naming Sunshine a manly movie feels akin to naming the Fountain a 'manly' movie (though... I wouldn't be at odds with that definition of manliness... come to think of it).Firefilm said:It's supposed to be a funny look at parts of manly movies that make guys cry. The goal is for dudebros to realize their macho movies have emotional cores.EnigmaticSevens said:I... I... just... what is this? I mean what is this supposed to be? I'm terribly confused. It's like someone took Sunshine, a fantastic little film with oodles of complexity backed in and a truly sorrowful, melancholic beauty, and just... I don't know, reduced it until it becomes nonsensical and then dipped it in some odd caricature (god I hope it's caricature) of dudebro.... I mean is this parody, an honest review?
Does that help?
Yes, this, this very much.Exley97 said:And I'm extremely glad the author paid special attention to Chris Evans. His acting was top notch, and his death scene was fantastic. When you really think about it, Mace is the hero of the movie. He's singularly committed to the mission, and doesn't hesitate to put himself at risk or sacrifice his life to ensure the mission succeeds.