5 Ways to Fix The Order: 1886
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As a closing thought, at what price point would The Order: 1886 have been a reasonable purchase for you?
Given that it's a redundant stock standard third person shooter that leans far too heavily on being cinematic while squandering it's interesting concepts? Ehh... I doubt I'd find it worth playing at any price. There are too many other actually good and interesting games to play out there already.
Given that it's a redundant stock standard third person shooter that leans far too heavily on being cinematic while squandering it's interesting concepts? Ehh... I doubt I'd find it worth playing at any price. There are too many other actually good and interesting games to play out there already.
Yup. Just another bland, soulless AAA FPS by the looks of it. Shame, too, because I at think enjoy the character designs and weapons, even if I do hate Steam Punk.
D'oh well. Back to the grind then, eh? Nothing to do or see here.
D'oh well. Back to the grind then, eh? Nothing to do or see here.
More style over substance i guess. It's a shame because this really looked like it could have been a good game to start with. If they implemented all five suggestions i'd be more than willing to pay full price for it
Capcha: tesla coil...how appropriate.
Capcha: tesla coil...how appropriate.
Here's the problem, I don't know how much the game would be worth to me because I only know it isn't worth what they're charging for it now.
It's sad, because I think we all wanted to like this game.
But seriously, there were some stunning games at the end of the ps3 generation (Uncharted series, The Last of Us). I don't think we need to push that further into the graphical beast to the detriment of everything else. I just want everything to be slightly better than those games. They don't have to be juggernauts of graphical content. Just incrementally better with a story holding them up.
There will be a day where our machines handle these kinds of graphics like they're word processing. In those days graphics will only matter if they're bad and the story and mechanics will be the main focus.
It's sad, because I think we all wanted to like this game.
But seriously, there were some stunning games at the end of the ps3 generation (Uncharted series, The Last of Us). I don't think we need to push that further into the graphical beast to the detriment of everything else. I just want everything to be slightly better than those games. They don't have to be juggernauts of graphical content. Just incrementally better with a story holding them up.
There will be a day where our machines handle these kinds of graphics like they're word processing. In those days graphics will only matter if they're bad and the story and mechanics will be the main focus.
Thats one way for each hour the game lasts!
Reminder:
Prologue - Total | 12:28 --> Gameplay | 3:39 - QTE | 1:58 - Cutscenes | 6:50
Chapter 1 - Total | 29:23 --> Gameplay | 20:20 - Cutscenes | 9:03
Chapter 2 - Total | 16:33 --> Gameplay | 6:43 - Cutscenes | 9:49
Chapter 3 - Total | 46:00 --> Gameplay | 32:36 - QTE | 0:54 - Cutscenes | 12:30
Chapter 4 - Total | 24:25 ---> Gameplay | 12:20 - QTE | 2:21 - Cutscenes | 9:46
Chapter 5 - Total | 32:41 --> Gameplay | 24:17 - QTE | 0:32 - Cutscenes | 7:52
Chapter 6 - Total | 7:32 --> Gameplay | 1:42 - QTE | 0:18 - Cutscenes | 5:32
Chapter 7 - Total | 6:41 ---> Cutscenes | 6:41
Chapter 8 - Total | 21:37 --> Gameplay | 9:30 - QTE | 0:07 - Cutscenes | 12:00
Chapter 9 - Total | 43:07 --> Gameplay | 31:13 - QTE | 1:13 - Cutscenes | 10:41
Chapter 10 - Total | 4:07 --> Cutscenes | 4:07
Chapter 11 - Total | 44:15 --> Gameplay | 33:13 - QTE | 1:07 - Cutscenes | 9:55
Chapter 12 - Total | 5:37 --> Cutscenes | 5:37
Chapter 13 - Total | 5:17 --> Gameplay | 0:04 - Cutscenes | 5:13
Chapter 14 - Total | 5:31 --> Gameplay | 1:47 - Cutscenes | 3:44
Chapter 15 - Total | 10:48 --> Gameplay | 9:24 - Cutscenes | 1:24
Chapter 16 - Total | 9:23 --> QTE | 2:33 - Cutscenes | 6:50
Total: Gameplay | 03:06:48 - QTE | 00:11:03 - Cutscenes | 02:07:34
Reminder number two:
The last boss fight is a QTE. And the strategy guide has tips for it!
Reminder:
Prologue - Total | 12:28 --> Gameplay | 3:39 - QTE | 1:58 - Cutscenes | 6:50
Chapter 1 - Total | 29:23 --> Gameplay | 20:20 - Cutscenes | 9:03
Chapter 2 - Total | 16:33 --> Gameplay | 6:43 - Cutscenes | 9:49
Chapter 3 - Total | 46:00 --> Gameplay | 32:36 - QTE | 0:54 - Cutscenes | 12:30
Chapter 4 - Total | 24:25 ---> Gameplay | 12:20 - QTE | 2:21 - Cutscenes | 9:46
Chapter 5 - Total | 32:41 --> Gameplay | 24:17 - QTE | 0:32 - Cutscenes | 7:52
Chapter 6 - Total | 7:32 --> Gameplay | 1:42 - QTE | 0:18 - Cutscenes | 5:32
Chapter 7 - Total | 6:41 ---> Cutscenes | 6:41
Chapter 8 - Total | 21:37 --> Gameplay | 9:30 - QTE | 0:07 - Cutscenes | 12:00
Chapter 9 - Total | 43:07 --> Gameplay | 31:13 - QTE | 1:13 - Cutscenes | 10:41
Chapter 10 - Total | 4:07 --> Cutscenes | 4:07
Chapter 11 - Total | 44:15 --> Gameplay | 33:13 - QTE | 1:07 - Cutscenes | 9:55
Chapter 12 - Total | 5:37 --> Cutscenes | 5:37
Chapter 13 - Total | 5:17 --> Gameplay | 0:04 - Cutscenes | 5:13
Chapter 14 - Total | 5:31 --> Gameplay | 1:47 - Cutscenes | 3:44
Chapter 15 - Total | 10:48 --> Gameplay | 9:24 - Cutscenes | 1:24
Chapter 16 - Total | 9:23 --> QTE | 2:33 - Cutscenes | 6:50
Total: Gameplay | 03:06:48 - QTE | 00:11:03 - Cutscenes | 02:07:34
Reminder number two:
The last boss fight is a QTE. And the strategy guide has tips for it!
The Order 1886 just looks like a complete disappointment to me, honestly. Though I may not own a PS4, I was excited to see where they were going with this. But honestly, if I had a PS4 in my room right now, I wouldn't buy this game for it even if it were ten measly bucks. My deal is, I won't pay any amount of money for a game, let alone 60$, if the game doesn't meet certain criteria. Those being:
1) Length. Quality or not, I'm not paying full price for Metal Gear Solid: Ground Zeroes, know what I mean?
2)Gameplay mechanics. If it's the same stuff we've seen ten million times before (i.e. generic cover-based shooting with essentially nothing to differentiate it from other third-person shooters), then you've lost me. I'll play a game with interesting and unique mechanics, even if it's ugly and unpolished, over something safe and boring like Battlefield.
3)No obvious greedy moves. You're telling me, after six hours of "quality" gameplay, the game just ends? Only leaving you with blatant sequel baiting? Yeah, "quality" indeed, Ready At Dawn. If your game was such high quality, you would have wrapped up some of the many plot-threads twiddling about in the wind.
1) Length. Quality or not, I'm not paying full price for Metal Gear Solid: Ground Zeroes, know what I mean?
2)Gameplay mechanics. If it's the same stuff we've seen ten million times before (i.e. generic cover-based shooting with essentially nothing to differentiate it from other third-person shooters), then you've lost me. I'll play a game with interesting and unique mechanics, even if it's ugly and unpolished, over something safe and boring like Battlefield.
3)No obvious greedy moves. You're telling me, after six hours of "quality" gameplay, the game just ends? Only leaving you with blatant sequel baiting? Yeah, "quality" indeed, Ready At Dawn. If your game was such high quality, you would have wrapped up some of the many plot-threads twiddling about in the wind.
That ending sounds just very disappointing. I'd pick it up at $40, but I don't even have a PS4 yet and, from the sounds of one of the games I was kinda hyped for, I might put it off a bit longer.
To answer the question: about $5. I've already saw this 'movie' on youtube and it wasn't very good; certainly it was my impression that the ending with Batman-like view of the city was just a big sequel bait.
$5 is what most of modern shooters are worth for me.
$5 is what most of modern shooters are worth for me.
The game wasn't terribly innovative, I was able to call out the story darn near the beginning. The gameplay left a lot to be desired, and the ending was a joke.
So, as the first entry in a possible trilogy, this title would be worth about $25, with each subsequent title being worth about the same. That puts the eventual boxed set of the trilogy as a near $80 experience, which I'd be fine paying if the story was good. However, I'd STILL want a solid 25+hours out of it, and I KNOW I wouldn't get it.
Hell, most devs would laugh at me for what I just said, but they have to realize that there are TONS of other products vying for my attention, and at the end of the day, I just don't NEED any game unless it proves itself to me.
Also, I care not a whit for multiplayer. I grew up on RPG's (Western and Japanese), so that sort of shaped my gaming proclivities. To me, Persona Q, Fire Emblem, Dragon Age, or Banner Saga would each be worth top dollar, but not a myriad of me-too action shooters.
So, as the first entry in a possible trilogy, this title would be worth about $25, with each subsequent title being worth about the same. That puts the eventual boxed set of the trilogy as a near $80 experience, which I'd be fine paying if the story was good. However, I'd STILL want a solid 25+hours out of it, and I KNOW I wouldn't get it.
Hell, most devs would laugh at me for what I just said, but they have to realize that there are TONS of other products vying for my attention, and at the end of the day, I just don't NEED any game unless it proves itself to me.
Also, I care not a whit for multiplayer. I grew up on RPG's (Western and Japanese), so that sort of shaped my gaming proclivities. To me, Persona Q, Fire Emblem, Dragon Age, or Banner Saga would each be worth top dollar, but not a myriad of me-too action shooters.
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Top 1 ways to fix :The Order 1886:
#1.: Make it a video game instead of a movie.
More seriously though, they really should have made it a game, instead of a movie where you play out some of the action scenes.
Actually, it wouldn't be half bad if they made it into an actual movie, from what I hear, a lot of people would be fine with dropping a few bucks to watch it.
Prepare your eyes for the intellectual marvel that is...
Top 1 ways to fix :The Order 1886:
#1.: Make it a video game instead of a movie.
More seriously though, they really should have made it a game, instead of a movie where you play out some of the action scenes.
Actually, it wouldn't be half bad if they made it into an actual movie, from what I hear, a lot of people would be fine with dropping a few bucks to watch it.
Interestingly enough the PSN pre-order price was already around AU$20 lower than the average triple-A title ($79 as opposed to $99). I was tempted but cautious about the rumoured cutscene/gameplay ratio. In the end that doesn't bother me as much as the letterboxing during gameplay, which would frustrate me to no end. I don't know what price would be reasonable, but I'm looking to wait until it's less than AU$30 (maybe more if I'm desperate for a new game).