Oops. Yeah...might want to change thatMarter said:... make sexist, racist, sexist, homophobic, or sexist comments,...
Marter on twitter said yes...but only just barelyNinjaDeathSlap said:A word of advice... Don't now watch the show hoping to get some kind of reflexive appreciation or understanding of the film. It really is all that bad.
Is it still better than Paul Blart: Mall Cop 2 though?
Trusting Cracked's "Today's Topic Is A Really Poorly Thought Out Conspiracy Theory About Pop Culture That Mostly Shows We Don't Know A Lot About The Media In Question" is not a good choice.Darth_Payn said:I always though the show was just about douchebags, by douchebags, for douchebags. Marter's review would not disprove that. But I just watched a video in Cracked.com saying the whole show was an elaborate prank on the main cast.
Ari is pretty interesting character in his own right. Mainly because whilst he sucks as a human being he is hopelessly devoted to his wife. Also whilst he says most of the sexist/homophobic stuff on the show he is actually neither sounds odds but those who've watched the show will understand.shintakie10 said:However the star was always Ari. He's so over the top, so fucked up, that you just couldn't help but love him. Its actually weird how many feminist women and gay men/women who adore the hell out of Ari despite the fact that he says literally the most sexist and homophobic stuff on the show. He had a gay assistant who Ari just reveled in making fun of. Yet interestingly he was also the most well rounded character on the show and had the most interesting story arc, mostly because everyone elses story arc always involved really stupid shit "We're making a movie! We need money to make the movie! We need to make this other movie first to make another movie!"
I didn't say they were right, I said it was an alternate theory about the show, which was pretty clever and funny.Thunderous Cacophony said:Trusting Cracked's "Today's Topic Is A Really Poorly Thought Out Conspiracy Theory About Pop Culture That Mostly Shows We Don't Know A Lot About The Media In Question" is not a good choice.Darth_Payn said:I always though the show was just about douchebags, by douchebags, for douchebags. Marter's review would not disprove that. But I just watched a video in Cracked.com saying the whole show was an elaborate prank on the main cast.
Oh absolutely Ari is a great character. I still think one of my favorite moments was when Vince got blacklisted because he wouldn't do Aquaman 2 because he didn't want to compromise his work as an actor (I literally could not say that without laughing). The entire blacklist was from the head of one studio and Ari is arguing with the guy on the golf course. Guy has a heart attack and dies. Ari realizes this is his opportunity to get Vince back into movies and is literally disgusted with himself for thinking of that to the point he freaks out at...someone...when they suggest that now Vince can get movies again. Its the truth, Ari knows its the truth and he will exploit it, but he's not half the dick he pretends to be so he waits.Ralancian said:Ari is pretty interesting character in his own right. Mainly because whilst he sucks as a human being he is hopelessly devoted to his wife. Also whilst he says most of the sexist/homophobic stuff on the show he is actually neither sounds odds but those who've watched the show will understand.shintakie10 said:However the star was always Ari. He's so over the top, so fucked up, that you just couldn't help but love him. Its actually weird how many feminist women and gay men/women who adore the hell out of Ari despite the fact that he says literally the most sexist and homophobic stuff on the show. He had a gay assistant who Ari just reveled in making fun of. Yet interestingly he was also the most well rounded character on the show and had the most interesting story arc, mostly because everyone elses story arc always involved really stupid shit "We're making a movie! We need money to make the movie! We need to make this other movie first to make another movie!"
I like Entourage at the end of the day it's just suppose to be fun and I don't think it glorifies the 'dudebro' culture just being entertaining I fail to see the hate for it.
Thinking back, you're probably right about Johnny Drama just being a plot device for laughs, but god is he a funny plot device for laughs. When he damn near pees his pants because he's too alpha male to chicken out when Chuck freakin Lidell challenges him to a fight? That was gold. Pure fuckin gold.Ihateregistering1 said:I actually liked Entourage the show, at least at the beginning. The first few seasons were a guilty pleasure and a lot of fun, but then the show just started to go sideways. Almost every episode was "Oh no, Vince's career is over!! Oh wait, he's got it back!". Seriously, most Hollywood actors have 1, MAYBE 2 comebacks in their entire careers, Vince seemed to have one every month.
Drama's antics just got dumber and dumber as the show went on, to the point where it was impossible to see him as a person and instead he was just a plot device to do dumb stuff for laughs. Turtle's romance with Jamie-Lynn Sigler was so misplaced and ridiculous, and E continued to be whiny and annoying (that part stayed basically the same the whole show).
Really, the stars of the entire series were always Ari and Lloyd, his flamboyantly gay assistant (why those two didn't get a spin-off show is beyond me).
It's also interesting to think a little more in depth about the show. On the surface, the show seems to be an adolescent male fantasy: these guys live with their insanely rich actor friend, they don't have to work, they buy whatever they want, go to exclusive parties, and sleep with beautiful women. But the more you think about it, the more you realize they are basically all losers. If they weren't rich/didn't know Vince, none of these women would even talk to them, they'd all still be living in NYC and probably not doing so well (it's not like any of them are particularly bright or motivated). In other words, their fantasy lives only exist due to sheer dumb luck.
In an interview with Trey Parker and Matt Stone (the South Park guys) they described Cartman as "that annoying fat kid who always hung around with you and your friends, and no one really liked him, but for some reason he was just kind of always there". Turtle is that fat kid.shintakie10 said:Turtle was just fuckin annoyin though. He was the most incompetent member of the group and had literally nothing going for him. Mike was at least smart enough to be Vinces manager. Johnny Drama was Vince's brother, but he was also still an actor (albeit a bad one), and Vince was Vince. Turtles main story arcs involved making a terribly failed Tequila business and...uhhh...getting beat by some 8 year old in a fight night tournament? They even made fun of the fact that Turtle didn't do anything, but never went farther than "So...what do you actually do around here Turtle?"
It was, indeed, this. ;DSkatologist said:EDIT: Unless that was all emphasis on how sexist these comments were
That would be fantastic! I imagine it could be called "The Gold Standard" (or whatever) and would have consisted of the best parts of Entourage (Ari Gold, Lloyd, celebrity cameos, Hollywood satire, etc.) without all of the bad parts (i.e. the entire main cast).Ihateregistering1 said:Really, the stars of the entire series were always Ari and Lloyd, his flamboyantly gay assistant (why those two didn't get a spin-off show is beyond me).
If you haven't seen it, go watch "The Goods", it's basically Jeremy Piven being Ari Gold some more. Runs out of steam towards the end but I still found it really funny.Citizen Graves said:That would be fantastic! I imagine it could be called "The Gold Standard" (or whatever) and would have consisted of the best parts of Entourage (Ari Gold, Lloyd, celebrity cameos, Hollywood satire, etc.) without all of the bad parts (i.e. the entire main cast).Ihateregistering1 said:Really, the stars of the entire series were always Ari and Lloyd, his flamboyantly gay assistant (why those two didn't get a spin-off show is beyond me).
Jeremy Piven was pretty much the reason I watched this show in it's entirety and also what drew me to watch Lucky Number Slevin. Why isn't this guy in more things?