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Erin: "But this doesn't mean I believe in friendship."

Rad: "Dully noted (Except it does)".
 

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As always, I LOVE Erin's facial expressions. I don't know why, but they make me laugh almost as much as the actual jokes(like your salaries)
 

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That's why Covenant energy weapons always confused me. What kind of idiot designs a gun that can't be reloaded on the battlefield?
 

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09philj said:
That's why Covenant energy weapons always confused me. What kind of idiot designs a gun that can't be reloaded on the battlefield?
The guys that are so good they always win before the battery runs out obviously... >.>

Technically, the situation isn't unprecedented in "human" warfare, with most firearms being very finite weapons and with the only option to keep them useful being to burden down the user with loads of ammo. Modern machine guns are excellent examples, for which the gunner himself likely only carries rounds for about a minute-minute and a half worth of sustained fire, hardly enough for the primary weapon of a squad in an extended combat scenario.
The situation is even more pronounced with most naval Destroyers who often only carry one or two salvos worth of torpedoes, their main anti-ship armament, and after that are left at the mercy of bigger or more dedicated ship destroying ships.

Or maybe that was over-analyzing your comment?
 

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09philj said:
That's why Covenant energy weapons always confused me. What kind of idiot designs a gun that can't be reloaded on the battlefield?
At a guess? They consider the soldier and weapon equally disposable.
 

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Gethsemani said:
09philj said:
That's why Covenant energy weapons always confused me. What kind of idiot designs a gun that can't be reloaded on the battlefield?
The guys that are so good they always win before the battery runs out obviously... >.>

Technically, the situation isn't unprecedented in "human" warfare, with most firearms being very finite weapons and with the only option to keep them useful being to burden down the user with loads of ammo. Modern machine guns are excellent examples, for which the gunner himself likely only carries rounds for about a minute-minute and a half worth of sustained fire, hardly enough for the primary weapon of a squad in an extended combat scenario.
The situation is even more pronounced with most naval Destroyers who often only carry one or two salvos worth of torpedoes, their main anti-ship armament, and after that are left at the mercy of bigger or more dedicated ship destroying ships.

Or maybe that was over-analyzing your comment?
Its also easy to see the full battery as one clip where as one battery is actually the full ammo supply and the 20 ish shot before a full over heat is one clip which if my memory is correct takes about 15+% of the battery. So the cool down is the reload, but it doesn't feel like that because using burst fire lets the gun cool down before a full over heat, it doesn't feel like a reload because its not active but its the same as firing 10 shots of the assault rifle (thinking Halo 1) then reloading.

More over-analyzing ho!
 

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No wonder most grunts shoot behind chest-high walls... so that when the batteries in their guns die, they can "reload" a new pack of batteries without the fear of getting lasered in the face!

Other than that, if only that gun ran on friendship power... Then, you don't have to worry about always changing batteries and shit...
 

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09philj said:
That's why Covenant energy weapons always confused me. What kind of idiot designs a gun that can't be reloaded on the battlefield?
In the manuals it always said that humans just don't understand how to do it so I'd assume the aliens know how to.

OT: Erin gets cuter with every comic, I love her.
 

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Yeah, those blasts are just crazy energy intensive, so it's realistic!
And it gives you an excuse to grab other weapons like an obsessed vulture with a vacuum strapped to it!
 

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09philj said:
That's why Covenant energy weapons always confused me. What kind of idiot designs a gun that can't be reloaded on the battlefield?
The problem might be that the Covenant didn't actually design them, they just ripped them off from Forerunner ruins (And don't make their own innovations on them because 1)They have a poor grasp on the laws of physics since they mostly blackbox-copy Forerunner ruins, and 2)They consider the technology "holy" and blasphemous to alter, which keeps the Prophets the most dominant force in the Covenant at the expense of advancing at the pace of a snail). The book First Strike has Cortana make an observation once she gets her hands on some Covenant technology that all their stuff is horribly optimized and their understanding of the laws of physics is vastly inferior to humans.
 

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09philj said:
That's why Covenant energy weapons always confused me. What kind of idiot designs a gun that can't be reloaded on the battlefield?
Its part of the covenants religious dogma. Their using forerunner tech without really understanding it, as tinkering with it would be blasphemy.

Does rely awfully heavily on the 'religious stupidity' crutch, but that hasn't held 40k back much.
 

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Caramel Frappe said:
Erin: "The batteries in these things are terrible!"

Rad: "Let me see real quick!"

*Erin hands her gun to him quickly; he immediately opens the slot to check how the weapon is fueled.*

Rad: "WOW it can only hold one Triple AAA battery .. who's the genius that engineered this?"

*Back at EA headquarters*

Head Executive: ".. And so you see, with their weapons constantly running out of ammo, we'll charge them microtransactions to purchase MORE bullets. All the hardcore fans will not mind spending this for their favorite weapons."

*Everyone at the EA table stands up and claps with tears strolling down their eyes*
And then they sacrifice a virgin and paint arcane symbols in the conference table with her blood.

OT: I remember how fast those Covenant plasma weapons ran out of juice. I would grow attached to the human weapons I start each level with, since spare ammo for those was unusually plentiful.
 

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FPLOON said:
No wonder most grunts shoot behind chest-high walls... so that when the batteries in their guns die, they can "reload" a new pack of batteries without the fear of getting lasered in the face!

Other than that, if only that gun ran on friendship power... Then, you don't have to worry about always changing batteries and shit...
Well Erin wouldn't have a problem in the comic. Most online players though would never find a working weapon as a result.

Caramel Frappe said:
Erin: "The batteries in these things are terrible!"

Rad: "Let me see real quick!"

*Erin hands her gun to him quickly; he immediately opens the slot to check how the weapon is fueled.*

Rad: "WOW it can only hold one Triple AAA battery .. who's the genius that engineered this?"

*Back at EA headquarters*

Head Executive: ".. And so you see, with their weapons constantly running out of ammo, we'll charge them microtransactions to purchase MORE bullets. All the hardcore fans will not mind spending this for their favorite weapons."

*Everyone at the EA table stands up and claps with tears strolling down their eyes*
You joke, but it's not like similar ideas haven't been floated already:

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/7.843479-Pay-99-Cents-To-Make-Mario-Jump-Higher-Hedge-Fund-Urges?page=1
 

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This is why I always took the dinky little plasma pistol in Halo. Plenty of reloads just lying around at any point in the game and the charge shot was my best friend. Then Halo 2 happened and it got nerfed almost as hard as the magnum.
 

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09philj said:
That's why Covenant energy weapons always confused me. What kind of idiot designs a gun that can't be reloaded on the battlefield?
Getting the right ammo to the right soldiers is a big logistical headache in the real world. An energy weapon with a large rechargeable battery that was entirely self contained would simplify this a lot. Not being able to reload would be a downside, but they could carry spare weapons and real world magazines are actually kinda heavy anyway. Objectively, the energy weapon might still be worse in a combat situation, but the Covenant would need less people doing logistics and would have less soldiers short on ammo due to supply problems, giving them more soldiers to fight with.

Also, it's mostly just videogame heroes that need thousands of rounds of ammo. Rank and file soldiers die too fast to worry about it.
 
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Ah, Covvie rifles. Infinite ammo when being held by an Elite, 72% charge as soon as picked up by the Chief.

09philj said:
That's why Covenant energy weapons always confused me. What kind of idiot designs a gun that can't be reloaded on the battlefield?
Perhaps they ran off a bio-electric signature unique to the Elites, hence the above discrepancy? *cough*bullshit excuse*cough* :)
 

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09philj said:
That's why Covenant energy weapons always confused me. What kind of idiot designs a gun that can't be reloaded on the battlefield?
They were meant to be reloaded on the battlefield, just humans hadn't figured out how.
 

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Well that just about some's up modern day killing technology, I myself prefer the old fashioned method of being on the battlefield, looking your enemy dead in the eye, man to man, equal to equal, highly trained killing machine to highly incompetent rookie and kicking him in the balls and when he wakes up blaming it on the nearest bystander.