ECA Launches Action Alert Against Videogame Legislation

Andy Chalk

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ECA Launches Action Alert Against Videogame Legislation


The Entertainment Consumers Association [http://www.theeca.com] has issued an "action alert" over the recent proposed legislation that would force retailers to conduct identification checks before selling M and AO-rated games.

ESRB [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/83721]rating system in their store.

The action alert, reported by GamePolitics [http://gamepolitics.com/2008/05/12/eca-issues-action-alert-on-new-congressional-video-game-bill/], allows people to send an email to their Congressional representative urging them to withhold support for the bill. The form letter notes that the ESRB is already doing a "great job" of regulating the industry and empowering parents, and also points out that numerous previous attempts to regulate access to videogames have been struck down as unconstitutional, at great cost to taxpayers.

"HR 5990, the Video Games Rating Enforcement Act, is another Congressional attempt to unconstitutionally regulate the sale of video games. If it's passed, the federal courts will find it unconstitutional - and at great expense to taxpayers," the ECA said on its website. "By raising our voices now, we can let Congress know that we, as taxpayers and constituents, would rather they use their time and our money to discuss more pressing issues such as the war in Iraq, universal health care and the national economy."

To view the action alert in full and take part in the ECA's campaign against the bill, check out the ECA's website [http://action.theeca.com/t/2858/campaign.jsp?campaign_KEY=2163].


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Niccolo

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Yeah, I dunno. This actually makes a lot of sense; the same thing is done for tobacco, for alcohol, for porn magazines... anything given an M rating is strictly regulated.

I'm not actually American, we don't have a constitution that's quite as limiting (If you think about it) as yours... could someone please explain to me just how this is unconstitutional?
 

Andy Chalk

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My impression is that it's being viewed as an end-run around the First Amendment. The content isn't being directly restricted, so the claim can be made that there's no Constitutional infringement. Which is sleazy, and unlikely to stand up to any kind of scrutiny, but after repeated First Amendment hammerings this is the sort of thing we should probably expect.

As far as it being "legit," consider the potential chilling effect on game sales. Is Wal-Mart, Best Buy, Circuit City, Radio Shack or any other major retailer with a largely slack-jawed sales force going to want to risk heavy fines because someone didn't bother checking ID and ended up selling GTA to a 16-year-old? And without unfettered access to major retail channels, what do you think is going to happen to M-rated videogame development?

And what hasn't been brought up are the penalties faced by movie theaters who admit underage kids to R-rated movies, or music shops that sell Parental Advisory Labeled CDs to 12-year-olds: There ain't none. The videogame industry is once again being targeted and we should all be concerned.
 

bluemarsman

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I'll bet you $20 that none of the people making this law have ever played a video game ever.

Doesent congress have better things to do?
 

Saskwach

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I'm pretty sure that ID checks are required across the board here in Oz: I've been bitten on the ass at both a cinema and an EB because I forgot my photo ID. There is an exception though: books. As a 13 year old I accidentally walked out of Dymocks with a sci-fi book full of swearing, gory action and very graphic sex scenes. No one carded me because no one had to.
So I don't see the problem with this as long as the restrictions are made across the board. Of course they aren't, because the legislators behind such bills aren't interested in consistency.
 

Nuronv

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I don't get what the big deal is either. Age checks and an explanation of the rating system would help little Timmy's mother know that the content of "Virgin Slicer 3: Axe Wound" isn't appropriate.
 

Cousin_IT

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They would help (though it explains all you need to know on the box neway). But this bill isnt being introduced for that reason & it isnt being applied to all media formats, just videogames. The congressman who introduced it pretty much said "games are really, really evil; we should make sure parents know how evil they are & punish those who sell them to minors." $5000 for selling an M game to a minor accidently is, as Malygris says, large enough to be really offputting to some major retailers even if the number of M games sold to minors knowingly or accidently is lower than in other media's. The fact that this isnt a blanket law, but simply targetted at videogames, means that although in principle the idea of requiring ID checks & an explination of ratings isnt bad, this bill shouldnt be supported.

Wheres videogamings Frank Zappa when we need him? :)
 

Possum-Man

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The plus side to this would be: People could no longer complain at Game Developers for making games that are being sold to kids. You'd have to blame the stores that sold it to them because they'd be responsible for checking ID and such like.

This is really the kind of thing we should be doing in Britain. It makes a whole lot of sense to me.

P.M.
 

marfoir(IRL)

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Possum-Man said:
The plus side to this would be: People could no longer complain at Game Developers for making games that are being sold to kids. You'd have to blame the stores that sold it to them because they'd be responsible for checking ID and such like.

This is really the kind of thing we should be doing in Britain. It makes a whole lot of sense to me.

P.M.
Sorry, but people have never been able to blame game developers for who their game is sold to, they just do it anyway despite the fact it is an idiotic and downright wrong argument. If a twelve yr. old has a copy of GTA4 who do we blame. The developer? The retailer? Or the parent who bought it for him?
 

Cousin_IT

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urm...in Britain we dont need to explain the ratings as the BBFC & PEGI both very kinda use numbers instead of letters for these things (PEGI also use icons that look oddly simular to the lute charm icons in Bards Tale to show what a consumer can expect). If you cant work out what a big red circle with the number 18means itl take more than reactionary legislation to make you understand (a lobotomy might help though :)).

Yes, U & PG13 etc are exceptions with the BBFC but no1 complains about games with ratings like that :)
 

Andy Chalk

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There seems to be some confusion here.

This is not about "protecting the children" or "empowering parents." This is a targeted attack on the videogame industry. How exactly is that acceptable in any way whatsoever?
 

Nuronv

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Malygris said:
There seems to be some confusion here.

This is not about "protecting the children" or "empowering parents." This is a targeted attack on the videogame industry. How exactly is that acceptable in any way whatsoever?
I don't see how its an attack. Most countries apart from the US have enforced sales restrictions, doesn't seem to effect them at all.
 

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I for one am writing to my state senators asking that they either vote this down, or have it modified to include all forms of media.

I encourage everyone else in the states to do the same.
 

Galaxy613

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Malygris said:
As far as it being "legit," consider the potential chilling effect on game sales. Is Wal-Mart, Best Buy, Circuit City, Radio Shack or any other major retailer with a largely slack-jawed sales force going to want to risk heavy fines because someone didn't bother checking ID and ended up selling GTA to a 16-year-old? And without unfettered access to major retail channels, what do you think is going to happen to M-rated videogame development?
Because it is so hard to check photo ID... All a employee has to do is check for the "M" or "AO" rating and ask for ID. Places already do it for beer and etc. If a employee slips up then they can make the employee pay the $5k.
 

Andy Chalk

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13-year-old kid walks into a video store and buys Saw.

16-year-old kid walks into a games store and buys GTA IV.

In 500 words or less, explain which one is worse and why only one of these actions should be subject to heavy, punitive fines.
 

soul_rune1984

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I like the idea but I can understand why others wouldn't. If ID checks become a requirement for buying M rated games that doesn't mean that there aren't parents that are too stupid to check the ESRB rating let alone sheet of paper explaining it. Just the other day I saw a parent buy a copy of GTAIV for her kid (he looked 8). I asked her if she really thought a game where you steel cars, shoot up gangsters, and commit various other crimes is appropriate for a child that young. She gave me a dirty look and walked off. Then a father and his son walked in the boy picked out a game and asked if he could get it and his dad looked at it and said it was to violent. So really, it depends on how responsible the parent is.