15 year old girl kills herself after persistent bullying

Vegosiux

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Just because I was stupid enough to cross the road on red doesn't mean the driver who ran me down isn't guilty of anything if he didn't even try to avoid the collision.

What I mean to say is, while she made some really poor choices, the entire blame can't be shoved onto her, the situation is way more complex than that.
 

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Considering the last post pretty much ended this thread I'll leave it with this.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-19941593
20 people were killed yesterday in one attack, but they weren't young, white and female so nobody cares about that.
 

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Freezy_Breezy said:

Good god...green texting on the escapist forums.Please stop digging your own hole.But i guess you are a troll, so never mind.

And you obviously have no understanding of how things in real life work if you think that's all that the education system is designed to do.I dread being around you in real because of the sheer ignorance your post reeks of.Sorry, when the environment in the school becomes as dangerous and unhealthy like in this case, the school does intervene.Why the fuck do you think schools have counselors?So that they can 'learn' how to be psychiatrist?
 

aaronobst

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Christ almighty I am fed up with all this crap, all the "R.I.P" posts and all the "people kill themselves everyday" ones.

Just let it be...
 

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BloatedGuppy said:
Midnight Llamaman said:
Someone chose to circulate the image, maliciously. It existing isn't an excuse for that behaviour, nor a reason for what she did.
Not only circulated it, attempted to use it to blackmail her into further "shows". Given she was a minor at the time...
This is the part that makes my mind boggle, why didn't the authority's do something? The police where involved at one point yet they didn't do anything about somebody owning explicit images of a young girl and attempting to blackmail her with them and force her into making more pictures.
 
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Fappy said:
Why she did it is somewhat irrelevant anyway. She was 12-years-old. She lacked the judgement necessary to make that call on her own and could not even hope to fathom the consequences of her actions.
I'm sorry but 12 year olds aren't incapable of basic thought, she could easily have judged that flashing someone would be a bad idea. I seriously doubt it was only once too.

The bullies suck but it was hardly necessary for her to kill herself. She made some bad judgements, she took it badly and continued to make bad judgements. She fucked a guy who she knew had a girlfriend, she can hardly entirely pass that one off on everyone else. If she reported the page to the police then she could have easily had it taken down and had the guy charged with sexual harassment and possession of child porn.

While her death is a tragedy and shouldn't have happened I can't help but really hate her as a person.
 

Driekan

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I think there is a matter of bigger picture here...

The issue here isn't about bullying. The issue is about a society where a woman showing a part of her body is seen as demeaning enough that they may consider suicide.

I haven't seen men cutting themselves over a picture of their dicks being posted online.
 

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Shame that it happened.
She's far from a saint though and I don't think she really deserve all the sympathy she's getting, seeing as everything what happened was her own doing and fault.

What should have happened is that she should have gotten help after she first tried to commit suicide, since she obviously didn't have the slight clue how to deal with the situation.
 

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Driekan said:
I think there is a matter of bigger picture here...

The issue here isn't about bullying. The issue is about a society where a woman showing a part of her body is seen as demeaning enough that they may consider suicide.
I'm not sure you can call that a "bigger picture". People have known that for years. And this isn't "a society where a woman showing a part of her body is seen as demeaning enough that they may consider". It's just a society that includes a mentally unstable teenage girl who made a shitload of bad decisions, was bullied for it, and killed herself when no-one noticed her plight or bothered to help her.

Driekan said:
I haven't seen men cutting themselves over a picture of their dicks being posted online.
It's probably because it's not reported as often and, forgive me for sounding sexist, most teenage boys, even ones as young as 12, wouldn't be duped into showing their barely pubescent cock to some dude online (and yeah, I am assuming it's mostly dudes that would try and trick innocent kids into exposing themselves online, because it is mostly dudes). There isn't as much pressure from the media for "sexual validation" as there is for girls.

To go off on a somewhat unrelated tangent, does that whole "laughing it off" thing actually work? Because when I got bullied by my so-called "friends", I sometimes just tried to participate in the joke at my expense, in the hope that they'd just get bored and walk away, but if anything, I think it just encouraged them. They didn't stop; they just kept on laughing at me, since my attempt at laughing with them was fake and clearly didn't fool them. So, eventually, I just broke off contact with them.
 

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Wow, this is what you call a perfect storm of fuck ups. Web Cam use at grade 7 to meet new people. -_-. Flashing in webcam, possibly got their from friends coaxing her. -_-. "Friends" abandon her just from flashing, poor girl wasn't even in a sex vid. Just boobs being flashed and that is all it took for her to lose her trust with her "friends"? Goes to new cities and still gets stalked and bullied just from flashing boobs?

To me, this just says there was no support of any kind from anyone during those last few years.
 

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Apparently she was a BIeber fan, as the 'belieber' (ugh) contingent on twitter is so intent on pointing out. Maybe she offed herself after realizing just how terrible Justin Bieber is.

Seriously poor taste joke aside, there's a lot of blame to go around for everyone. She shouldn't have been dumb enough to flash someone on webcam. The parents dropped the ball by not properly teaching her about responsibility on the internet. The police dropped the ball by not doing more investigation into the DISTRIBUTION OF CHILD PORNOGRAPHY that this shithead was willfully committing, and last but by no means least, the shithead that blackmailed her needs to be hunted down and gutted alive like the pig he is, or at least castrated and thrown into federal PMITA prison for the rest of his life.
 

Driekan

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Relish in Chaos said:
It's probably because it's not reported as often and, forgive me for sounding sexist, most teenage boys, even ones as young as 12, wouldn't be duped into showing their barely pubescent cock to some dude online (and yeah, I am assuming it's mostly dudes that would try and trick innocent kids into exposing themselves online, because it is mostly dudes). There isn't as much pressure from the media for "sexual validation" as there is for girls.
I'm sorry, but from my knowledge of teenage boys, if they met a woman online who asked to see their dicks, most wouldn't show significantly more restraint than the usual teenage girl asked to flash. Probably less.

And the consequence of that? If a woman posted that picture online, he'd get high-fives from his buddies for getting a woman to want to see it in the first place. Whereas a woman gets the aforementioned lifelong social stigma.

The whole "Saint or Slut" worldview is present, is powerful, and is damaging. I don't see how you could argue against that.
 

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This is all a very dark affair here. I'm just going to say that though in an ideal world people could just grow a thicker skin, some people can't. And sometimes, because of that, they off themselves. I don't see why people act like this girl is to blame here.
 

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Implying anyone should care about her.
I mean 100s commit suicide each day, why did they rule out her?
Because of crocodile tears.
It's not like she was the nerdy kid in the lunch line who got picked up because they were an "easy target". She "flashed" multiple times and she slept with someone in a relationship. That is why she was bullied, because she had a reputation of a "slut".
What is it with this victim mentality these days? Why are the suicidal kids glorified and put on a pedestal?
inb4 ban.
 

Driekan

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DerangedHobo said:
Implying anyone should care about her.
I mean 100s commit suicide each day, why did they rule out her?
Because of crocodile tears.
It's not like she was the nerdy kid in the lunch line who got picked up because they were an "easy target". She "flashed" multiple times and she slept with someone in a relationship. That is why she was bullied, because she had a reputation of a "slut".
What is it with this victim mentality these days? Why are the suicidal kids glorified and put on a pedestal?
inb4 ban.
What I argue is that being a "slut" should not be seen as a terrible thing.

In my experience, being a polygamous man is something that is consistently glorified, so the women should get the same benefit.

Would have prevented this from ever becoming an issue.
 

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Driekan said:
DerangedHobo said:
Implying anyone should care about her.
I mean 100s commit suicide each day, why did they rule out her?
Because of crocodile tears.
It's not like she was the nerdy kid in the lunch line who got picked up because they were an "easy target". She "flashed" multiple times and she slept with someone in a relationship. That is why she was bullied, because she had a reputation of a "slut".
What is it with this victim mentality these days? Why are the suicidal kids glorified and put on a pedestal?
inb4 ban.
What I argue is that being a "slut" should not be seen as a terrible thing.

In my experience, being a polygamous man is something that is consistently glorified, so the women should get the same benefit.

Would have prevented this from ever becoming an issue.
Of course, there's the other option: Condemning both men and women sluts.

EDIT: My phrasing there wasn't the greatest. I hope you get my point.
 

Driekan

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MysticToast said:
Of course, there's the other option: Condemning both men and women sluts.

EDIT: My phrasing there wasn't the greatest. I hope you get my point.
Do get the point, and it does resolve one half of the issue...

Sadly enough, I think it would only cause men to also suicide (Or just be emotionally tortured) over getting a bad rep. Twice as many victims.