Science Uses Quake 2 to Study the Brains of Mice

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Science Uses Quake 2 to Study the Brains of Mice

A modified version of Quake 2 [http://www.idsoftware.com/games/quake/quake2/] has helped scientists dramatically improve their ability to study neurological activity in the brains of moving animals.

"One of the major research areas of neuroscience is the development of techniques to study the brain at cellular resolution. The information of the nervous system is contained in the activity of individual neurons," explained Princeton neuroscientist David Tank. Unfortunately, studying those individual neurons has thus far only been possible in cell cultures, not in the "real, living brains" of moving animals.

"The neurons move back and forth while you're trying to measure things," Tank continued. "So we developed a way to keep the head fixed in space, but still have mice perform behaviors that are usually studied in mice running through a maze."

The system is actually quite simple: A fixed metal helmet holds the mouse in place atop a large styrofoam ball supported by a jet of air; sensors taken from optical mice surround the ball and measure its movements as the mouse runs through a virtual maze generated by a modified version of the Quake 2 engine. A glass capillary (that's like a thin tube, Einstein) only one micron wide and filled with salt water is inserted into the hippocampus of the mouse, where it can detect electrical currents as they pass through individual cells.

Tank said that the results generated so far will only be of interest to neuroscientists and that "more work is needed to nail this down." But cognitive scientist Douglas Nitz of the University of California at San Diego was a bit more excited about it. "It is difficult to overstate the importance of understanding how the dynamics of electrical activity within single neurons is related to firing patterns among collections of neurons that accompany the performance of complex tasks," he said.

Okay, so maybe it is only of interest to neuroscientists at this point. It's still pretty damn cool.

Source: Wired [http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2009/10/mouse-virtual-reality/]


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Great, now they're gonna hook it up to a deathmatch server and draw a comparison between how coke affects the brain and how that rat reacts when it starts screaming "first blood, headshot, killing spree". That's my guess, anyway.

I don't think that video proves anything anyway, I think that rat just can't stay on top of the ball so it just keeps scurrying to stay balanced on it. But this is an easily replicated experiment - just scotch tape a mouse to a trackball and plunk him down in q2dm3 with 5 bots. Let's verify this hypothesis, gentlemen.
 

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Wow, I hope they don't teach the mice how to play games. I'd never live it down if I lost a CoD4 match to a team of rodents.
 

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archvile93 said:
Wow, I hope they don't teach the mice how to play games. I'd never live it down if I lost a CoD4 match to a team of rodents.
If they use rats, they're depressingly intelligent and develop pack instincts easily. Expect them to crush you.
 

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Chipperz said:
archvile93 said:
Wow, I hope they don't teach the mice how to play games. I'd never live it down if I lost a CoD4 match to a team of rodents.
If they use rats, they're depressingly intelligent and develop pack instincts easily. Expect them to crush you.
Dude, that'd be sick. I'm gonna raise a rat and teach it to dominate people on the trackball. He'll win a world championship, I'll get all the cheese.
 

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300lb. Samoan said:
Chipperz said:
archvile93 said:
Wow, I hope they don't teach the mice how to play games. I'd never live it down if I lost a CoD4 match to a team of rodents.
If they use rats, they're depressingly intelligent and develop pack instincts easily. Expect them to crush you.
Dude, that'd be sick. I'm gonna raise a rat and teach it to dominate people on the trackball. He'll win a world championship, I'll get all the cheese.
In my expericence (my housemate breeds the damn things), two is the best number - at that level, they still keep distinct personalities and they WILL tag-team you using their personal advantages.
 

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Quake two, setting the world on fire in fairly unspectactualar ways since 1996
 

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It just looked likea mouse running in virtual circles.
I can't say I'm as stoked about that as these scientists...
 

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quick inform the Germans of this use of a violent game

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/95480-German-Group-Holdling-a-Killer-Game-Cull

well just these Germans, well you can tell other Germans, or anyone else, but specifically the second group of Germans, the ones in the hyper link ^ that one there
 

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300lb. Samoan said:
I don't think that video proves anything anyway, I think that rat just can't stay on top of the ball so it just keeps scurrying to stay balanced on it.
That's what I thought. It doesn't seem to be trying to go anywhere, it just runs in circles.
 
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Okay, so maybe it is only of interest to neuroscientists at this point. It's still pretty damn cool.
Not just neuroscientists, that's truly awesome. Now if they can just get the mice to rocket jump!
 

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300lb. Samoan said:
I don't think that video proves anything anyway, I think that rat just can't stay on top of the ball so it just keeps scurrying to stay balanced on it.
That's what I thought. It doesn't seem to be trying to go anywhere, it just runs in circles.
Either that, or it's looking for the Quad Damage.

Ba dum tssh.

But really, it's less "mouse runs virtual maze" and more "video games help science!". Which is always awesome.
 

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The mouse doesn't stop running in the virtual maze.
I have seen mice placed in mazes and some will actually stop moving for a second or two before moving again. As others have said, it doesn't look like the mouse can find balance on the ball and is just running to keep from falling off.

Why the elaborate setup anyway? How doe it work when the mouse is placed on a treadmill?
 

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archvile93 said:
Wow, I hope they don't teach the mice how to play games. I'd never live it down if I lost a CoD4 match to a team of rodents.
Probably not much different than playing in any public server...
 

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The scientists are studying hippocampal place cells in mice...brain cells that respond to where you are standing/walking in space. The video is meant to demonstrate how the mice can walk around in a virtual space, but in place so that they can stick electrodes in their brains without having them fall out of place.
 

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God, Quake and similar FPS games have been modded to hell...
OT: When will we be able to teach our pets how to pwn noobs? I need a better player to co-op L4D expert with.