Can Solar Power Bust Hurricanes?

Feb 13, 2008
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Can Solar Power Bust Hurricanes?


Renewable energy developer Solaren [http://www.solaren.com/] is said to be signing a deal with California utility company Pacific Gas and Electric [http://www.pge.com/] to beam solar energy directly to Earth, not just for "green" energy, but to control hurricanes.

Last week, PG&E announced it was attempting to get state approval for plans to buy power over a 15-year period from Solaren, by means of a giant solar array in space beaming the energy down to Earth.

It may sound crazy, but Solaren's chief executive officer, Gary Spirnak, has said that "While a system of this scale and exact configuration has not been built, the underlying technology is very mature and is based on communications satellite technology." A similar inquiry [http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21253268/] by the Pentagon agreed.

The deal itself would allow Solaren to provide 200 megawatts of power by 2016, but that's just small potatoes [http://www.answers.com/topic/small-potatoes] according to a patent application that was made in 2006. [http://www.google.com/patents?id=CgqYAAAAEBAJ&printsec=abstract&zoom=4&source=gbs_summary_r&cad=0_0#PPA1,M1]

Spirnak writes that, "The present invention relates to space-based power systems and, more particularly, to altering weather elements, such as hurricanes or forming hurricanes, using energy generated by a space-based power system."

The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration has heard all this before though, stating, "There have been numerous techniques that we have considered over the years to modify hurricanes: seeding clouds with dry ice or silver iodide, cooling the ocean with cryogenic material or icebergs, changing the radiational balance in the hurricane environment by absorption of sunlight with carbon black, exploding the hurricane apart with hydrogen bombs, and blowing the storm away from land with giant fans, etc. As carefully reasoned as some of these suggestions are, they all share the same shortcoming: They fail to appreciate the size and power of tropical cyclones."

That's not stopping Solaren though, which is planning on launching a 1.5-gigawatt array, (about seven times as large as the PG&E one) that will heat up the upper and middle levels of an infant hurricane, effectively weakening it.

Of course, this does still assume that the company is capable of getting hold of the billions of dollars necessary to actually create the idea, but as Spirank says, "Our thought was just to kind of cover our bases. I don't know if it will ever be built or not. The only ones who would really do this is the government. No public company could ever handle the liability, but we'd love to build one for them."

Source: Wired [http://blog.wired.com/wiredscience/2009/04/weathermod.html] via Slashdot [http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/04/20/1620254&art_pos=2]
(Image) [http://www.flickr.com/photos/36614889@N00/25103550/]

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Disembodied_Dave

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It sounds like they could do the opposite too, and use it to heat up the ocean near the storm making it much worse. I'm on the them.
 

johnman

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Hey if it provides solar engery with less of the shortcoming them im all for it. The sun never goes behind a cloud in space and a constant supply of engery would be incredibly useful.
We just need to use it on a worthwhile scale and make sure they dont break all the time.
the Huricane thing sounds cool too, but as said before, be careful with it.
 

Sevre

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Pandalisk said:
I Fear that somehow this could be weaponised as nearly everything is.
It shall be weaponised, and then there is NOWHERE to hide. Bwahaha!
 

Christemo

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either it will be used as a weapon, or else they will set up the prices for energy in america by a three-digit procent.
 

Pandalisk

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Sevre90210 said:
Pandalisk said:
I Fear that somehow this could be weaponised as nearly everything is.
It shall be weaponised, and then there is NOWHERE to hide. Bwahaha!
The people controlling the machine would be like a kid standing on an anthill with a magnify glass!... Hey that should be a life rule, If it exists their is a weaponised version of it.
 

Ranooth

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One step close to an orbital ion cannon.

Good, everything is falling into place! MWHAHAHAHHAHAHA!
 

HobbesMkii

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My favorite part of this was the statement from NOAA. I liked how they discussed their "exploding the hurricane apart with hydrogen bombs" and "blowing the storm away from land with giant fans" and then followed up by mentioning some of these ideas as "carefully reasoned."
 

tustin2121

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The only thing I find truly interesting about this news bit is that originally I thought that Solaren was literally the Sun (because the sun always beams down energy to the earth) and that Solaren's CEO is named Spirnak, which reminded me or Sputnik...
 
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tustin2121 said:
The only thing I find truly interesting about this news bit is that originally I thought that Solaren was literally the Sun (because the sun always beams down energy to the earth) and that Solaren's CEO is named Spirnak, which reminded me or Sputnik...
You don't find the idea of an Orbital Weather Control "Laser" interesting? As Sun Tzu once said: "The clever combatant imposes his will on the enemy, but does not allow the enemy's will to be imposed on him."
 

RavingPenguin

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HobbesMkii said:
My favorite part of this was the statement from NOAA. I liked how they discussed their "exploding the hurricane apart with hydrogen bombs" and "blowing the storm away from land with giant fans" and then followed up by mentioning some of these ideas as "carefully reasoned."
you found the weird too, huh?
The first thing that came to my mind was Dr. Evils "Laser" though his laser was mounted on th moon. I could totally see the array being named the "Death Star" though.
 

spacedockin

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I really hope this works, I live in Louisiana and have family in the New Orleans area. We are f#@%ing tired of hurricanes. Please blast them away with your death rays from space. Just don't miss @ssholes!
 

Baneat

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Don't fuck with nature, this seems like it could just cause a different and much worse disaster, reversing a massive amount of energy like that.