Theory: Activision May Want To Publish Rock Band

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Theory: Activision May Want To Publish Rock Band



Based on a whole bunch of circumstantial evidence, Activision may be attempting to acquire Harmonix from MTV Games/Viacom.

The music rhythm genre went from boom to bust pretty quick, with two major franchises making a boatload of cash in a very short amount of time. At first, there was one company, Red Octane, who employed developer Harmonix to make Guitar Hero. Then Harmonix jumped ship to MTV Games and parent-company Viacom, and Activision ate up Red Octane for a cold $100 million in 2006. Comments from both sides have indicated that the format war between the Hero and Band games helps no one. With Activision closing down Red Octane earlier this year, we may soon see a consolidation by the bigger publisher absorbing what's left of Harmonix and Red Octane to continue the music genre. The writing is on the wall.

Earlier this year, MTV Games senior VP Paul DeGooye said that the competing game franchises really is a disservice for consumers. "What we really should be looking at is: what is right for the consumer?" he said. "I don't think the consumer wants a format war. I don't think anyone can afford to continue to have this shooting war. The consumer is telling us pretty clearly, 'we're interested in playing these games on the platform - make it easier for us.'"

Add that to the fact that the distribution deal between Harmonix/MTV Game and Electronic Arts expires next month. According to EA head, John Riccitiello, negotiations are ongoing to extend that, but such a deal would be superfluous if Harmonix was purchased by Activision. That a deal isn't already in place means that the relationship is in jeopardy of ending in March.

This year at the DICE summit, Activision chief Bobby Kotick basically admitted that they never considered hiring Harmonix. "We had always known [Harmonix] as somewhat of a failed developer of music games ... nothing that was commercially viable until Guitar Hero" he said. They instead went with the publisher, Red Octane, and passed off actual game development to Neversoft, who had previously worked on Tony Hawk games. Kotick seems to say that was a mistake, "We really didn't even think, 'Hey, we should go to Boston and meet these Harmonix guys and see what they're up to,'" he said. "It would probably be a profitable opportunity for both of us."

We reported that Viacom is trying to get back the $150 million [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/98282-MTV-Want-Its-150-Million-Back-from-Harmonix] that it paid out to Harmonix shareholders. One can argue as to what that really means but it's clear that Viacom is making a lot less money off Rock Band than they thought they would. They may be happy to sell Harmonix while they can still get a decent price.

Now that Activision has shut down Red Octane, while still keeping on its founders, Kai and Charles Huang, Kotick may be trying to put the band back together. With the brothers Huang back in charge of the Boston-based Harmonix, will we see a resurgence of music games under one hood?

And more importantly, what will the game be called? Guitar Band? Rock Hero? DJ Band Hero World Tour: Beatles?

Source: Dubious Quality [http://www.develop-online.net/news/33966/RedOctane-founders-to-remain-at-Activision]




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Zac_Dai

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I thought Viacom owned Activision?

The world of corporate ownership confuses me.
 

The DSM

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Thats because it makes lots of money and as Activision is one of the biggest soul less gaming companies out there; it lloooovvvveeessss its money.

Not suprising.

Also its Very hard to fuck it up, just churn one out every year for vast amounts of profits from that genre/bands fans and make a killing on shitty plastic instruments.
 

Scizophrenic Llama

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Zac_Dai said:
I thought Viacom owned Activision?

The world of corporate ownership confuses me.
Gaming-wise they own: Xfire, Neopets, and Harmonix.
Aside from that they own pretty much every major network: MTV, Comedy Central, Nick, Spike, etc.


I personally would like to see Harmonix continue on their own for now, as I'd be afraid Activision would fuck Rock Band up.
 

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They already have Band Hero/DJ Hero/Guitar Hero World Tour. Are they trying to say "We suck at making your game so we want to buy it from you"?

Rock Band is just fine where it is. I think that has a lot to do with the business practice known as the "buy the songs you want from the internet, and not the shitty songs we put on the game disc that feature songs you hate and/or have never heard of because DLC is for suckers"
 

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I see, Guitar Hero 5 has underperformed, so you'd like the extra sales from Rock Band, right Kottick? Too bad, but it really won't work. Thanks to your stupidity over applying the "over-saturation" method, people have grown tired of your games.
 

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I don't really care owns the game, as long as the next one isn't too...Guitar Hero-ey. The unlicensed make-believe guitars, cartooney graphics, and extra-retarded mode made the last GH game seem really juvenile. Not to mention all the music sucked, with the exception of about 4 songs.

Actually, on second thought, I changed my mind- GH needs to die.
 

Loop Stricken

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I think I approve of this.

Mostly because I can only make decent female characters on Rock Band, but prefer playing Guitar Hero.

Okay, so I prefer the Metallica spinoff which doesn't let you use your created peeps for the best tracks but you can see where I'm going with this.
 

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Myrddin Emrys said:
Zac_Dai said:
I thought Viacom owned Activision?

The world of corporate ownership confuses me.
Gaming-wise they own: Xfire, Neopets, and Harmonix.
Thanks for reminding me of Neopets. Now I have to go back to that site to play that bullet hell game featuring Dr.Sloth.
 

Aussie Legend

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That's not suprising, anything that is making money I'm sure Activision want a part of (mainly so they can ruin it ala Guitar Hero, CoD)
 

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The one smart thing he says is: "I don't think the consumer wants a format war. I don't think anyone can afford to continue to have this shooting war. The consumer is telling us pretty clearly, 'we're interested in playing these games on the platform - make it easier for us.'"

Sadly, I don't like the idea of anyone from Activision having complete control over the rhythm game genre. I dunno if Harmonix themselves can handle that pressure, but they've proved smarter and more resourceful than anyone who has told them what to do thus far.
 

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Lol, looks like that Bard hero class from the Blizzards April Fools World of Warcraft announcement a couple years ago may not be that far off.
 

Riobux

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So first they run Red Octane into the floor and now they want to run Harmonix into the floor as well?

I just don't get it...
 

Beatrix

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So... EA loses power, but Activision gains it.
Evil is weakened, and another evil is strengthened...

Netto gain: 0.

Isn't there any other news?
I'm sure Peter Molyneux said something silly again by now.
 

AboveUp

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I think music games have reached the current decade when it comes to the rock hero simulation: The broken down corporate slave-era of rock music.