Susan Arendt said:
hobo_welf said:
Grunt Birthday Party was added as a skull in both of the later games, and has origins that go back to a bunch of grunts dancing around a fire in Halo 2. I feel like video game journalists have less accountability than real journalists, did you just look at this video, glance at Wikipedia really quickly and then add your own opinion to it and post it? That's what it seems like.
Regardless this is fucking rad and I want one for my next birthday party.
I believe you're misusing "accountability" in this instance. Given that Andy is writing under his real name, he is easily held accountable to everything he writes for this website. You are, perhaps, casting aspersions on the fact that he is not an expert on every game he covers, but he isn't expected to be. No game journalist, no matter how dedicated, will ever know as much about a certain game as that game's dedicated fans. We at The Escapist are always very pleased when our community chooses to share their own expertise with ours, though we naturally prefer it when that expertise is shared in a positive frame of mind, as opposed to a negative one.
Firstly, let me apologize. I am an asshole. I'm sitting around with pneumonia right now, but I don't want to use that as an excuse. You're completely right about what you said but I'd like to share my perspective.
The articles I see on this site range greatly in quality. So do the people writing them. Some of the articles are very detailed and well researched, but most of them are little snippets of news taken from other sites, forums members, or YouTube with a bit of an opinion from whoever happened to post the article. I've been looking at this site for a lot longer than I've had an account(years longer actually), so I guess it's not fair for me to trash it since it's obviously provided me with a ton of entertainment, and although I'm definitely not a journalist, here's my main gripe with the site.
When you said "No game journalist, no matter how dedicated, will ever know as much about a certain game as that game's dedicated fans" you may have been correct, but that standpoint will prevent you from ever being a professional in your field. Unless game journalists are held to different standards than real journalists, you ARE expected to be an expert in your field. The reason why people get jobs reporting on specific subjects is because they ARE experts on that subject. Now there's no accounting for fanboys, but the dancing grunts in Halo 2 aren't something so secret only a fanboy would know, in fact a simple Google search would bring it up.
As I mentioned previously, I've been looking at this site for a long time. I jumped on originally to watch Zero Punctuation but Yahtzee is somewhat of a one trick pony, and I haven't been interested in his videos for a while. Even more than the movie reviews MovieBob puts out (that was a great acquisition to your team), and even the game reviews by Steve Butts (that was probably the best acquisition to your team), I get on here because I like to keep up to date on gaming news, and this site is more familiar to me than Kotaku or ScrewAttack or any of the other gaming sites that I've looked at.
The columns posted weekly I have always found to be extremely boring, but I understand how you would want to break down and analyze certain aspects of gaming culture in a magazine-esque format. The news articles however, I sometimes read (like the grunt birthday party one) and complain to myself about how there should have been more research done blah blah blah. However today, like I said, I'm pretty feverish and decided to be an asshole, which I apologize again for.
Your response has inspired me to actually provide constructive criticism, because you're right, it is ridiculously counter-productive to talk smack to people who write on a website that I've spent hundreds of hours looking at. So, in an effort to be constructive (for the first time on this website ever), here are my ideas for you;
1) Write articles you are well versed in. For instance, this article could have been written by John Funk, who for all his sillyness, seems to have a love for Halo, and may have been able to bring more insight to the topic. The reason why I enjoy Steve Butts' reviews so much is that instead of talking about how cool the guns are, or how good the voice acting is (things I could write about), he shows expertise in the field by talking about game triggers, specific AI behavior, scripted events, etc. These are things that show he has knowledge not just about playing video games, but about coding them, or at least designing them.
2) Bring things to light that nobody else talks about! If you only post stories nabbed from other sites, or inspired by forum member tips, adding only a little bit of your opinions, why would I come here instead of somewhere else? The game trailers, silly videos, and Sunday comics (where did they go? some of them were pretty funny) make you different from other gaming websites, but not from a journalism standpoint.
3) Focus on quality, not quantity. I would much rather see two or three articles posted a day, written by people who know a lot more than I do about what they're writing about, than ten to twenty articles that are shallow and easy to find elsewhere.
Now all this advice is based on the idea that you guys want to be
journalists, not just people who pander to the masses of the internet. One look at the majority of posts on your forums (especially mine) will give you the impression that you could put out garbage and people would keep reading it. But if you guys want to hold yourselves to higher standards, professional standards, start working more like a newspaper, rather than a blog with a bunch of people writing on it.
You guys are given an amazing opportunity working the job that you do. You get to eat, sleep, drink video games all day every day. I may be wrong here, but you make your entire living off of it, and even have your own homebase in North Carolina. You can afford to buy Yahtzee's Australian games, and send Bob to the movies, you get to go to E3 and interview amazing people. Maybe it's just me, but I feel like you have an obligation to be as professional and dedicated as any reporter for the New York Times.
You are more than welcome to completely ignore this post, but I was struck by what you said, Susan. I've spent enough time on this website that I can make one meaningful post in my sea of shitty ones.
Thank you for your time.