Sony Wins Restraining Order Against Geohot

Andy Chalk

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Sony Wins Restraining Order Against Geohot


A U.S. District Court has awarded Sony a temporary restraining order against PlayStation 3 hacker George Hotz.

The case against George Hotz, AKA Geohot, the man who expressed concern [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/106609-Notorious-iPhone-Hacker-Posts-PS3-Master-Key-Online] over whether it was appropriate to try the case in California, since Hotz lives in New Jersey and committed his alleged crime in that state. "Serious questions have been raised here today," Judge Susan Illston said at the time.

Those questions appear to be answered, at least for the moment. In a ruling made yesterday, the Judge declared that her court "may exercise specific jurisdiction over Hotz because he purposefully directed his activities at the forum state." She also noted, however, that Hotz's attorney had previously stated his intention to file a motion to dismiss the case for lack of personal jurisdiction and said that he may "present his jurisdictional challenges on a fuller factual record."

With jurisdiction established, the Judge granted Sony its temporary restraining order against Hotz. "After consideration of the record and the arguments of counsel, the Court finds that a temporary restraining order is warranted," Illston wrote. "Plaintiff has submitted substantial evidence showing that defendant George Hotz has violated the Digital Millennium Copyright Act. Plaintiff has also submitted evidence demonstrating that plaintiff is likely to suffer irreparable harm in the absence of relief, and that the balance of hardships favors plaintiff."

The restraining order prevents Hotz from developing, offering or linking to any PlayStation 3 circumvention technology or related material, or "assisting, facilitating or encouraging others" to do the same. The Court also ordered Hotz not to destroy or alter any records or files related to the case, and that he "retrieve any circumvention devices or any information relating thereto which Hotz has previously delivered or communicated to the Defendants or third parties." That last bit seems to me like it might be a little tricky.

Finally, Hotz was given ten business days to "deliver for impoundment any computers, hard drives, CD-ROMs, DVDs, USB stick, and any other storage devices on which any circumvention devices are stored in Defendant Hotz's possession, custody or control."

The judge also ordered both sides to settle on a briefing schedule and hearing date on Sony's motion for a preliminary injunction against Hotz and Hotz's motion to dismiss for lack of personal jurisdiction by no later than February 1. Judge Illston's temporary restraining order [http://psx-scene.com/forums/attachments/f6/24831-temporary-restraining-order-issued-sony-vs-geohot-gov-uscourts-cand-235965-51-0-pdf] are both available in PDF format from PSX-Scene.

via: Eurogamer [http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-01-27-sony-wins-geohot-restraining-order]


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Raykuza

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Too little, too late. The damage is done, Sony. Suing is pointless. Just fix any security holes you can, and try to move on.
 

Danpascooch

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First off, this is bullshit.

Secondly, how the fuck does one "retrieve" information they "communicated" to a third party? Men in Black style memory wiping?
 

Reed Spacer

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Sony can scream they're "suffer(ing) irreparable harm" all they want, but the information is already out there. They can't do a thing to stop it now.
 

Pandaman1911

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danpascooch said:
First off, this is bullshit.

Secondly, how the fuck does one "retrieve" information they gave to a third party? Men in Black style memory wiping?
Don't fucking tempt fate, man. Next thing you know you'll have Sony ninjas and shit breaking through your window.

On topic, I do believe that this is quite bullshit, and that Sony should just grow up and act its age.
 

SovietSecrets

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So Sony is going after a guy who cracked their security? Shit they should ask him how he did it and develop something better off that, not go after him with a lawsuit.
 

KeyMaster45

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This whole case is a bloody waste of money, wtf does Sony expect to get out of this guy? You know they're going to want to ask for some ungodly sum of money as compensation that this guy could never hope to pay.

I agree with Sony's right to protect it's IP, but instead of hunting one lone hacker just to make an example of him they should be focusing on how to fill the security holes. Sony is really over reacting if you ask me, a simple C&D would have sufficed here.(and not made them look like such tools)
 

Daemascus

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Isnt the hack already on the internet? Taking his stuff seems pointless. Also, i dont get why Sony should get to dictate what and what you cant do with a consle YOU own. The PSN yes, your consle no.
 

KEM10

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EcksTeaSea said:
So Sony is going after a guy who cracked their security? Shit they should ask him how he did it and develop something better off that, not go after him with a lawsuit.
That's part of the plea bargain.

Seriously, if more of the hackers were hired to work for Sony or MS, I believe that the system hacking would be a lot more difficult. That and the want to hack might also be eliminated (out of the box Linux ready PS3 anyone?).
 

Korten12

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Daemascus said:
Isnt the hack already on the internet? Taking his stuff seems pointless. Also, i dont get why Sony should get to dictate what and what you cant do with a consle YOU own. The PSN yes, your consle no.
I think because many will use the hacks to hack into the PSN, like it or not, the majority will.
 

RMoD

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That's bullshit. It's a hardware modification, which is allowed under the DMCA. It's why jailbreaking is legal. THIS IS THE SAME FUCKING THING.

This is very, very, very, very, VERY BAD.
 

KEM10

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Xzi said:
KEM10 said:
EcksTeaSea said:
So Sony is going after a guy who cracked their security? Shit they should ask him how he did it and develop something better off that, not go after him with a lawsuit.
That's part of the plea bargain.

Seriously, if more of the hackers were hired to work for Sony or MS, I believe that the system hacking would be a lot more difficult. That and the want to hack might also be eliminated (out of the box Linux ready PS3 anyone?).
Plea bargain? Lol. This thing will get dismissed, no question. Hotz's lawyer has a million different defense strategies he can use here. The least of which not being that Hotz was simply restoring functionality clearly advertised on the console box to the PS3 (other OS).
Ahh, but the Lord Sony giveth and the Lord Sony taketh away. You just have to accept why bad OS happens to good platforms.
 

JDKJ

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RMoD said:
That's bullshit. It's a hardware modification, which is allowed under the DMCA. It's why jailbreaking is legal. THIS IS THE SAME FUCKING THING.

This is very, very, very, very, VERY BAD.
Modification of an access control mechanism isn't necessarily allowed under the DMCA. It depends on the intent and/or knowledge that the modifier had when they did the modification. If they did the modification for the purpose of engaging in piracy or knew that the modification they were doing was more than likely to be used for the purposes of piracy, then they're on the DMCA's hook.
 

Jumplion

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It's obviously not over, and in this whole mess, I honestly have no idea who I should "root" for (there's a pun in that somewhere...) or whether there's any "rooting" to do at all. It's a giant mess that nobody is going to come out clean.
 

JDKJ

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Xzi said:
KEM10 said:
EcksTeaSea said:
So Sony is going after a guy who cracked their security? Shit they should ask him how he did it and develop something better off that, not go after him with a lawsuit.
That's part of the plea bargain.

Seriously, if more of the hackers were hired to work for Sony or MS, I believe that the system hacking would be a lot more difficult. That and the want to hack might also be eliminated (out of the box Linux ready PS3 anyone?).
Plea bargain? Lol. This thing will get dismissed, no question. Hotz's lawyer has a million different defense strategies he can use here. The least of which not being that Hotz was simply restoring functionality clearly advertised on the console box to the PS3 (other OS).
The worth of that defense depends on whether or not simply restoring that functionality was more likely than not to further piracy. If it's more likely than not to further piracy, then it ain't no kinda defense.
 

Adultism

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EcksTeaSea said:
So Sony is going after a guy who cracked their security? Shit they should ask him how he did it and develop something better off that, not go after him with a lawsuit.
Agreed. Any company that is hacked by a person should hire that person to beef security.