Activision Hate Understandable, But Unfair, Says Social Media Guru

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Activision Hate Understandable, But Unfair, Says Social Media Guru

According to Activision's Dan Amrich, the publisher's size makes it a natural target.

Dan Amrich, a former videogame journalist and Activision's go-to guy for all things to do with social media, says that he can understand why the publisher has such a poor relation with gamers, but he doesn't think that Activision has really earned all the bad press it receives.

Amrich thought that the seeds of the negative feelings against Activision were sown during the merger between Vivendi and Activision, a deal which turned Activision into the largest third-party publisher in the world. He said that being very large and very successful - which as loathe as gamers might be to admit it, Activision most certainly is - made you a natural target. This went hand in hand with his view that gamers were inclined to support the little guy, something that Activision was anything but.

"It comes with the territory," he said. "In gaming, we are all trained from birth to root for the underdog ... We root for him because the odds are so incredibly against him ... We root for him because he is insignificant, because there is no way he will succeed unless we believe he will succeed. He's the underdog. Activision is a multi-billion dollar corporation with a string of hit franchises, global success, and market leadership. That does not sound anything like an underdog to me."

He also touched on the negative feelings towards Activision's oft-quoted CEO, Bobby Kotick. He said that there was a great deal of incorrect information surrounding Kotick, and that he was often misrepresented, both unintentionally and wilfully. He said it was natural for people to focus on the man at the top, but said that over time, people like Eric Hirshberg, CEO of Activision Publishing and one of the people responsible for creating Kevin Butler for Sony, would start to make much more of an impact with gamers. He was hopeful that fresh voices would help change the conversations that people were having about Activision, and said that better and more honest communication was the key to turning Activision's image around.

Unfortunately, the difficulty with better communication, he said, was getting gamers to listen and not reject Activision's efforts with a "knee-jerk" reaction. "Activision could be giving orphan kids prosthetic limbs," he said. "And you'd still have haters who say they're building a cybernetic army for their own nefarious purposes. Some people are going to hate because hating is more fun."

Amrich does make a good case: It is very easy to think of Activision as an evil empire, and Kotick as some fiendish despot, just because of the publisher's size and success. However, there are issues that he doesn't really touch on, such as worries that the PC and PS3 versions of Call of Duty: Black Ops played second fiddle to the Xbox 360 version, or Activision's relationships with its own studios, that are also cause for concern. Amrich's belief that a wider conversation will help get gamers on board is entirely valid, but "honest" really has to mean honest.

Source: Games Radar [http://www.gamesradar.com/f/why-do-gamers-hate-activision/a-2011042615355617059]


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Funny...you'd think they were reading from the same script...

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/106177-Activision-Hate-Not-Based-in-Reality-Says-Activision

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/7.266044-Activision-Co-Founder-Says-Anti-Activision-Sentiment-is-A-Little-Bit-Strong

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/7.277291-Activision-Were-Still-the-Same-Fun-Bunch-of-Guys

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/7.270192-PAX-East-2011-Activision-Doesnt-Run-Internal-Studios-With-Iron-Fist

I wonder who wrote that script...
 

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In all honesty Activision stopped being the underdog around the time of the PS1, so thats bullshit. I'll stop hating Activision when they replace their entire board of suits.

The only thing they pay attention to is their stock-price.
 

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Activision aren't evil, they're just shit.

They are the company who recently said they will not be investing in any new IP's and instead go on to start making FIVE call of duty products at once. They treat gamers as cattle, not people.

Activision, you are but a shell of what you once were and are now as bad as the company you originally spawned from.
 

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They want to kill creativity and turn everything into a franchise that can be exploited for more money. All the reason I need to hate them.
 

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still hoping for a Tony Hawks Underground 3, or Star Wars Battlefront 3 :( Not sure if Activision is still involved with the Star Wars franchise though.
 

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Ok Activision this is starting to smack of desperation, and whats more telling us we're being unreasonable or "big meanies" really isn't going to change our opinions.

To use an old saying "actions speak louder then words".
 

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He's got a point. Step your game up from that old Datsun B210 to a drop-top MB SL with the AMG kit and watch the haters hate. That's what haters do: they hate.

Look, haters! My ride's parked but the rims still spinnin'. Hate on that, bitches!
 

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The_root_of_all_evil said:
Funny...you'd think they were reading from the same script...

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/106177-Activision-Hate-Not-Based-in-Reality-Says-Activision

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/7.266044-Activision-Co-Founder-Says-Anti-Activision-Sentiment-is-A-Little-Bit-Strong

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/7.277291-Activision-Were-Still-the-Same-Fun-Bunch-of-Guys

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/7.270192-PAX-East-2011-Activision-Doesnt-Run-Internal-Studios-With-Iron-Fist

I wonder who wrote that script...
A million monkeys at a million typewriters?

I'm not going to fault them putting out a market tested, word approved, positive press, "look we're not the Devil" statement multiple times. I will fault them for doing it after portraying themselves as the Devil and then having a minion tell me otherwise. I can agree that I shouldn't hate them for being big business, but I sure don't have to like them.
 

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So basically he throws his hands up and says "Haters gunna hate?" Awesome!
But regardless, I don't like Activision because of the way the screw over everyone and thing they touch, not because they're big. Valve is the big dog in PC land and they are loved by many.
 

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I dont view hate as fun... I hate for serious reasons...

Unfortunately, the difficulty with better communication, he said, was getting gamers to listen and not reject Activision's efforts with a "knee-jerk" reaction. "Activision could be giving orphan kids prosthetic limbs," he said. "And you'd still have haters who say they're building a cybernetic army for their own nefarious purposes. Some people are going to hate because hating is more fun."
and also this made me lol...
 

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Well, as long as they milk everything they stumble upon until it's dry and withers away without adding anything to it or hell I dunno, try to come up with something new, then there won't be much like for it.

Apparently making a game which can't have annual sequels for the next bunch of years isn't worth the effort. Even less so is developing a new engine.

Stop saying that you are "nice" and actually I dunno... DO nice things? Like not have overpriced map pakcs and whatnot? Although if it's overpriced or not is entirely my own opinion, someone probably finds it worth spending that much on maps that hold the same idea of gameplay but looks just a little bit different.

If anything I'm a bit surprised they let Trey go with the zombies. Hell, next thing we know Treyarch will be only making zombie games. But, they'll probably make 2-3 more cod games before they let Treyarch do that.
 

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Aw, so turning AAA titles into franchised shovelware was supposed to make me like them. Now I get it!
 

theriddlen

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Boo fucking hoo, Activision.

It's your own damn fault, deal with it. Whining never makes things better.