Activision: We Messed Up Call of Duty Elite Launch

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Activision: We Messed Up Call of Duty Elite Launch



Activision admits a beta test would have alleviated many of the problems with the subscription service.

When Activision announced its unable to log in to the social service [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/110483-Activision-Unveils-New-Call-of-Duty-Online-Service], but he is looking forward to a bright future. The 7 million subscribers, 1.5 million of which are paying customers, certainly helps with that assessment.

"I hesitate to talk about Elite, because even though we've had some early success with the numbers, it's far from time for us to be doing any victory laps on Elite," Hirschberg said at the DICE summit this weekend.

"We had some technological stumbles at launch and that frustrated some of our fans. We're still making that right. But if we only talk about the things that go as planned then we miss some of the most valuable dialogue that can come out of this," he continued.

A beta test would have alleviated the botched launch, but Hirschberg said a test of Elite wasn't feasible because the code was tied directly to Modern Warfare 3. "There was only one problem, we wanted to do a beta. None of the features were going to demonstrable in the beta because they were all tied into the code of Modern Warfare 3 and the beta was going to be Black Ops multiplayer.

"With the launching of Elite we had a marketing Sophie's Choice," he said, referring to a mother having to choose which of her children lives [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sophie's_Choice_(film)]. "Do we do the beta, which is the right thing to do from a development standpoint, or do we make the best possible first impression, which was probably the right thing to do from the marketing standpoint."

Hirschberg reaffirmed Activision's goal to keep Elite going strong. "Both Elite and [the Call of Duty XP Convention] were both experiments in how willing people are to enter a relationship, to treat it more like a brand or a lifestyle. Like I said, we're a long way from doing victory laps but we're in it for the long haul. We made it for the right reasons and believe its' right for a players and if we get it right we can change the relationship, make the game better and more fun for players."

Source: GamesIndustry.biz [http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2012-02-10-activision-admits-to-bungled-call-of-duty-elite-launch]

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Omnific One

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Greg Tito said:
Hirschberg reaffirmed Activision's goal to keep Elite going strong. "Both Elite and [the Call of Suty XP Convention] were both experiments in how willing people are to enter a relationship, to treat it more like a brand or a lifestyle.
I sure am feeling the call of Suty, California. It's freezing where I live and I could do with some sunshine.

On topic: We'll see how this ends up, but it'll be a while. Sadly, people will continue to subscribe even if every feature is botched.
 

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Wow, it only took 4 months to admit they fucked it all up. It should go without saying that not having a Beta was just stupid.

There was only one problem, we wanted to do a beta. None of the features were going to demonstrable in the beta because they were all tied into the code of Modern Warfare 3 and the beta was going to be Black Ops multiplayer.
That means you get the people who are beta testing the game to test the service. What fucktard. Unless of course you weren't beta testing the game, which is so completely stupid it's not funny.
 
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"With the launching of Elite we had a marketing Sophie's Choice," he said, referring to a mother having to choose which of her children lives. "Do we do the beta, which is the right thing to do from a development standpoint, or do we make the best possible first impression, which was probably the right thing to do from the marketing standpoint."
If your definition of your marketing choices is about which one of your children lives...I think we've established exactly where your problem is.

It's now called Franchisicide.
 

NLS

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How was it a good idea to tie basically all of Elite into the MW3 code? That's not very dynamic or future-proof at all, you'll have to remake Elite for every goddamn CoD game released every goddamn year. Unless of course, the next CoD game will just be MW3 with a few new maps sold for 60$. Actually, not so far from the truth.
 

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"Do we do the beta, which is the right thing to do from a development standpoint, or do we make the best possible first impression, which was probably the right thing to do from the marketing standpoint."
The obvious solution: Screw up BOTH! Brilliant!

It didn't occur to them that not testing it might make for a crappy first impression?
 

Korten12

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Wait... There was no beta..? I am pretty sure there was, hell I even took part in it. There was even servey's.
 

Sven_The_Slayer

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So instead they chose to kill both kids. No beta and a horrible first impression because of faulty backbone because they didn't beta test... oh and still waiting on that PC release...
 

SL33TBL1ND

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Greg Tito said:
"Do we do the beta, which is the right thing to do from a development standpoint, or do we make the best possible first impression, which was probably the right thing to do from the marketing standpoint."
So he cares more about his marketing than actually making good software.

Right.
 

Adam Jensen_v1legacy

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SL33TBL1ND said:
Greg Tito said:
"Do we do the beta, which is the right thing to do from a development standpoint, or do we make the best possible first impression, which was probably the right thing to do from the marketing standpoint."
So he cares more about his marketing than actually making good software.

Right.
That's the problem with all big companies. They don't care about quality of their products as long as the marketing is good. Why do you think Apple is more popular than Android in America? Not because it's better.
 

SL33TBL1ND

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Adam Jensen said:
SL33TBL1ND said:
Greg Tito said:
"Do we do the beta, which is the right thing to do from a development standpoint, or do we make the best possible first impression, which was probably the right thing to do from the marketing standpoint."
So he cares more about his marketing than actually making good software.

Right.
That's the problem with all big companies. They don't care about quality of their products as long as the marketing is good. Why do you think Apple is more popular than Android in America? Not because it's better.
The hilarious thing though, is, like in situations like this, when the poor quality ruins whatever marketing they were doing.
 

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So not enough money rolled in, quick rename it to Super Elite and launch it again!
And I want my cut when they actually do that :D
 

Antari

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I bet you really regret eliminating the Testing industry a while back now don't ya Activision? Personally I have absolutely no pity for you. And I still won't buy your games.
 

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If you can't be a good example then at least you can serve as a warning. Hopefully Activision pulled off the latter well enough that other companies will think twice about this sort of shit.