Court Orders UK ISPs to Block Pirate Bay

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Court Orders UK ISPs to Block Pirate Bay

The Pirate Bay "destroys jobs," says the British Phonographic Industry.

Last November, the British Phonographic Industry (or BPI) asked a number of UK-based ISPs - Sky, Everything Everywhere, TalkTalk, O2 and Virgin Media - to voluntarily restrict access to the Sweden-based Pirate Bay. The ISPs in question refused to do so unless there was a court order mandating the action; the BPI then sought (and obtained) said order in a ruling handed down today.

"Sites like The Pirate Bay destroy jobs in the UK and undermine investment in new British artists," said a BPI statement. The group's CEO, Geoff Taylor, praised the High Court's ruling as a landmark in efforts to combat piracy. "[The Pirate Bay's] operators line their pockets by commercially exploiting music and other creative works without paying a penny to the people who created them ... This is wrong - musicians, sound engineers and video editors deserve to be paid for their work just like everyone else."

Taylor's statement was rebutted in a statement from Pirate Party UK - a British spinoff of the original Swedish political movement - and its leader Loz Kaye, who denied that the move would put "any extra pennies into the pockets of artists."

"Unfortunately, the move to order blocking on The Pirate Bay comes as no surprise," said Kaye. "The truth is that we are on a slippery slope towards internet censorship here in the United Kingdom."

Virgin Media told the BBC that it would comply with the High Court's order, but said that such brute-force measures would not curb piracy in the long run, and that consumers needed legal alternatives to current models. "As a responsible ISP, Virgin Media complies with court orders addressed to the company but strongly believes that changing consumer behaviour to tackle copyright infringement also needs compelling legal alternatives, such as our agreement with Spotify, to give consumers access to great content at the right price."

(BBC [http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-17894176])

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teh_Canape

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I swear I read the subtitle as "The Pirate Bay 'destroys jobs', says the British Pornographic Industry"
 

Zipa

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So apparently they haven't heard of a proxy. Now I don't pirate shit and even I know that this court order is pointless.
 

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And so not a single fuck was given as people bypass the block anyways.
 

Absolutionis

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So the British Government enacts a court order towards censorship while the people affected will just bypass the censor.

Seems bad for all parties involved. Pirates will continue to pirate while civilians are getting a taste of censorship.
 
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teh_Canape said:
I swear I read the subtitle as "The Pirate Bay 'destroys jobs', says the British Pornographic Industry"
Seconded.

OT: Even though that is an easy enough work around it is sad to see such measures being employed.
 

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Just the piratebay? Huh. For some reason i dont think thats going to do anything for the piracy problem. Sure, the piratebay is the biggest pirate site out there..... But wont they just go to another site?

Im glad they arnt monitoring everyones private communication. While it may not be a great solution its better then what we in the US are doing. Its a short term fix i guess. Very short term.
 

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This is no surprise, the UK is the third largest security state in the world. It's a shame that so many stupid people are allowed to make decisions regarding this. People put blinders on, which is a damn shame. The thing is, I am not for piracy, but this will just be one step that makes it easier to censor other things.

That said, just one website is idiotic. It's like outlawing stone throwing but only if the stone is round. That leaves all the other stones left to be thrown without consequence. But, that is what bureaucracy does. Nothing at all while simultaneously looking like it does a whole lot.
 

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teh_Canape said:
I swear I read the subtitle as "The Pirate Bay 'destroys jobs', says the British Pornographic Industry"
Argh, You freaking ninja!

OT: This will only block the "casual" pirates. Those who really want to download will find a way around it. And it's not like shutting off access to the pirate bay magicly stops pirating.
 

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Despite spelling out an obvious advertising attempt, that is a surprisingly forward thinking and enlightened statement from Virgin; makes a change from their old view.

It's a shame I know of no other torrent tracking websites other than The Pirate Bay. Ah well, I guess I have no choice but to spend all of my disposable income on the British companies represented by the BPI.
 

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They're only targeting the most widely known site to scare the everyday illiterate away. As much as it pains me to agree with Virgin Media, I think consumer habits will only change with better business models.
 

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They already tried this over here in the Netherlands a while back, and currently ISP's are trying to explain to courts how stupid it is and have the order repealed, a lot less complacent than Virgin Media. They haven't succeeded yet, but then again, when are legal institutions known for their technical expertise?
 

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Awww that's cute. See the problem with this silly government of mine is that people find ways around it faster than this solves anything. So either get with the tech and adjust prices and accessibility accordingly or yes, the tech is going to screw you. And that's the entertainment industry's job, not 'the government'. I absolutely am of the opinion that 95% of the people who pirate content would never bother to legitimately buy the thing they are pirating in the first place, they would either a) borrow from a friend who managed to get it, or b) save and save and save until they can afford it, bypassing several other desired things in the process thus resetting the desire to see the other things and placing them on 'most desired but not affordable media lists'. Or c) forgo it entirely, why bother when there's so much else to do on the internet, a few movies and shows can die in the sidelines.

There are ways to combat piracy, but this is one of the less effective methods.
 

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This wont stop anything, it takes 2 minutes to get an app to work around this.

What a sad waste of taxpayer money.
 

Beryl77

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Pirates can be happy that those people have no idea about how the internet works or they might actually be a problem for the pirates.
Then again it's probably just to show people that "we're doing something against the pirates", instead of actually believing that this will help stop piracy.
 

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The Pirate Bay has stolen so many jobs that less than zero people are employed in the entertainment industry.


(Starting at 2:55 but the whole thing is worth watching.)



Absolutionis said:
Seems bad for all parties involved. Pirates will continue to pirate while civilians are getting a taste of censorship.
Teaching civilians that anti-censorship=piracy would be a good thing in many people's eyes, particularly when coupled with the piracy=theft and technology=child-molester angles they've already got going. A bit more of that and the mob will be convinced anyone who can ping a server should be hanged.