Withholding Information
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How many people have you tried to teach this to? This isn't all instinctive to newer players, they tend to not do these things.Zachary Amaranth said:
Of course, if you manage to give your spells flash, then even these rules change. I'm a really big fan of [mtg_card=Alchemist's refuge] because of how much stranger it makes the game.
Recently? None. But my friends were all doing this back when Magic was brand freaking new, so it's not like they were told to do it by the internet or anything.vxicepickxv said:
I'm guessing then that your friends had a pretty good tendency to play a wide variety of games then.Zachary Amaranth said:
Unless it does work. I'm working on a black/green deck just so I can try to get [mtg_card=wolfhunter's quiver] equipped onto a [mtg_card=Dread Slaver] so I can steal creatures. I'd also need a [mtg_card=Nightshade peddler] for some deathtouch.Draconalis said:
I've actually noticed the CPU doing the exact same thing at times in the computer game "duel of the planeswalkers", particularly with opponents with Jace decks. For instance, at times, I'll play a decent card like Zombie Warlord and shortly afterward, my opponent will play Repulse on it.Encaen said:
I've had two green/black decks in my time... and I'll tell you exactly what they do. They give you land after land after land. You'll end the game, win or lose with 11 land minimum.vxicepickxv said:
It shocks me how often it happens to my G/B decks...
That being said, have you considered a good ol [mtg_card=Royal Assassin] so you can kill creatures repeatedly?
This is actually fairly important info for most people.
I still make these kinds of mistakes. The other day, for instance, my opponent had used Gitaxian probe on me and had seen a land (a swamp) and two other cards. On my next few turns, I drew a land or two, and I played those rather then the swamp. This was the correct play, because I didn't need the swamp (I play black only for the flashback on a single card, and mana of other colors can be more useful), except it wasn't because my opponent then knew I hadn't drawn action that turn.
It wasn't a major mistake, and while I lost the game (by a single HP) I don't think it made a difference, but it's still something to be on the lookout for.
I still make these kinds of mistakes. The other day, for instance, my opponent had used Gitaxian probe on me and had seen a land (a swamp) and two other cards. On my next few turns, I drew a land or two, and I played those rather then the swamp. This was the correct play, because I didn't need the swamp (I play black only for the flashback on a single card, and mana of other colors can be more useful), except it wasn't because my opponent then knew I hadn't drawn action that turn.
It wasn't a major mistake, and while I lost the game (by a single HP) I don't think it made a difference, but it's still something to be on the lookout for.
To be honest, when I first read the title, I thought this article would be about players withholding information by being jerks about it. An example that springs to mind is from a draft night at a local hobby shop, one of the regulars refused to tell his opponent who was starting out what some of the basic abilities of cards did (what is first strike, deathtouch, etc...) to win a draft match easily.
As for the topic, this is why I almost never empty my hand. Even if I draw a land card, I usually hold onto it just because, if you play it, you tell your opponent that you are not an unknown threat during their turn. I especially loved the phyrexian mana cost of some cards, because it meant a player that was tapped out was still able to cast spells.
As for the topic, this is why I almost never empty my hand. Even if I draw a land card, I usually hold onto it just because, if you play it, you tell your opponent that you are not an unknown threat during their turn. I especially loved the phyrexian mana cost of some cards, because it meant a player that was tapped out was still able to cast spells.
That seems unlikely, unless you're running a lot of ramp. Consider running fewer land fetch cards if this is always happening.Draconalis said:
Not a whole lotta ramp... one deck was kinda morbid themed, so it ran dawntreaders, but I tend to go more for creature ramp than land ramp anyway.DArkAbyssKeeper said:
It just always happens...
I for one barely know my way around the psychological tricks of Magic, despite having played for nigh on eight years. This was actually some much-needed help for me... I make a lot of misplays and simple little errors that always end up costing me the game. =/Zachary Amaranth said:
not really, no.vxicepickxv said:
I think we tried Rage when it came out, and there was Netrunner or whatever it was called much later. Oh, and like a decade later one of my friends picked up "Yu-Gi-Oh."
But seriously? Even without the newer stuff like Flash, is this hard to pick up? It's kind of...Strategy. Isn't that what M:tG is about? I'm not trying to be rude, but hot damn, this just seems inconceivable to me.
Yeah, that's just poor sportsmanship. I certainly don't condone that kind of behavior in Magic or anything. Also, I love Phyrexian mana for just that reason. Surprise! [mtg_card=Mutagenic Growth]Evil Alpaca said:
It sounds like you suffer with [user]Trujkin[/user] on this, with the same style of deck even. I've rarely seen a game with his BG Ramp where he didn't flood on lands, and I helped him revise it a couple of times, so I'm confident the land balance is correct. Nothing like a late-game glut of land to just ruin your day.Draconalis said:
Or early game... or mid game... and especially all game.Encaen said:
Both of my G/B decks were played against each other for a match... same result. We both had 10+ lands.
It took months before my cousin finally stopped trying to block the same flier {[mtg_card=Vault Skirge]) with grounders.Myan said:
Just takes time.
I kinda expected to see a comment about when I [mtg_card= Summoning Trap]ped [mtg_card= Emrakul, the Aeons Torn] in to block Encaen's something or another. I think it was a [mtg_card= Strangleroot Geist]. Good times
We still up for some play tomorrow Encaen?
I kind of know how you feel. Subjects that I feel like I can easily grasp is something way harder on other people. Sometimes, 'basics' just don't get in. It's different for everyone. Maybe you were playing with smarter people all the time.Zachary Amaranth said:
Even I can say that I play like that a lot, even though it's not a good idea.