Will The PS3 Make Or Break Sony?

Shawn Andrich

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Will The PS3 Make Or Break Sony?

In a Wired article today, executives from Microsoft, Sony and other companies chime in on the PS3.

With the PS3 launch fast approaching, Wired [http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/14.09/sony.html] had a look at what is at stake for the company in their latest issue. Rishad Tobaccowala, a future-of-media specialist at Publicis, thinks there is a great deal riding on the PS3. "It's betting the company. If this thing bombs, there is no second coming. Everything else about Sony is a sideshow. This is the show," he said.

Sony has largely been known as a hardware manufacturer. Even now with more studios under their corporate umbrella making games, they still rely heavily on third party developers for content. The days of winning on the strength of your hardware are long over, according to Microsoft VP Peter Moore. "This business used to be about hardware and a cartridge you popped in," he said. "But hardware is a tough business. You need it, but you also need great software and innovative services." With the success of Xbox Live as a software solution for users and developers alike, the need for Sony to create their own version is essential. "It's a very important function," says Square Enix's Ichiro Otobe, "and we want it coming from the platform developer ? otherwise, we have to build it ourselves."

The Blue-ray was cited as the main reason the PS3 launch was delayed from Spring of 2006 to the Fall of this year. Microsoft's Amir Majidimehr claims that the Xbox 360 will get a seperate HD-DVD peripheral instead of a Blue-ray drive thanks to the extra layers of copyright protection on the Blue-ray discs. Competition is also a concern, but he claims it's a question of corporate strategies. "Our strategy is, people want to play games, so we build a game console. Sony is like, all or nothing. They're going to have a world of hurt waiting for them at the end of this year," he said.

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Anyone else find the trend of quoting Microsoft employees about Sony's strategy a bit odd? Two seperate Microsoft quotes in a three paragraph bit about Sony seems a bit much (considering how many Sony quotes there are ... which would be none).

Do we expect them to say something like, "We think it will be great" or "Blu-Ray is excellent"?
 

Lex Darko

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I read the whole wired article and I have to say I am scared for Sony's share holders.

It really looks like Sony has failed to learn from the past, and has become arrogant with the Playstation's success.

I think the fact that the PS3 was largely delayed becuase of a feature that isn't even game related says much about why gamers are approaching the PS3 with the same attitude that veteran MMO players approach new MMOs.

An attitude of cautious optimism not the blind enthusiasm that Sony needs for this thing to really take off.

Then again, that $600 price tag pretty much forced open the eyes of all the blind enthusiast.

For myself atleast spending over $500 requires justification and I can't justify spending that much just to get a console with a blue ray player when I can spend 60 bucks get a dvd player and have access to thousands upon thousands of movies on dvd.
 

Shawn Andrich

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RegularX said:
Anyone else find the trend of quoting Microsoft employees about Sony's strategy a bit odd? Two seperate Microsoft quotes in a three paragraph bit about Sony seems a bit much (considering how many Sony quotes there are ... which would be none).

Do we expect them to say something like, "We think it will be great" or "Blu-Ray is excellent"?
Well, when I was looking at what to include, I felt like Kaz's response to the usual concerns were so standard that I'm sure we've quoted it a few times here in other stories. Microsoft's quotes are equally expected, but far more directed toward the topic at hand.
 
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Shawn Andrich said:
Well, when I was looking at what to include, I felt like Kaz's response to the usual concerns were so standard that I'm sure we've quoted it a few times here in other stories. Microsoft's quotes are equally expected, but far more directed toward the topic at hand.
Yeah, but you have to agree that they are clearly wildly biased ... and quoting them twice in such a small blurb seems like overkill (especially that last bit). Sorry, don't mean to harp - it's just that the Wired article does an excellent job of balancing out their coverage to just plain and simple facts, something sorely lacking in Sony coverage these days. To distill four pages of writing to two blurbs from their biggest competitor for this product doesn't feel quite right.
 

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When it comes to boiling down a four page article, I'm in no position to provide a balanced report like Wired is. You kind of have to tell your own story with the space you have, and hope that encourages the reader to read the whole thing.

I often think about Sony and bias against them in the North American media. Personally, I don't really have strong feelings about any of he big three, Sony just keeps doing and saying things that are incredibly hard to swallow at times.
 

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Yeah, but you have to agree that they are clearly wildly biased.
Of course they are. The console hasn't shipped yet; the story is the bias. This is war son - console war. Until the product ships and there are actual numbers, the only point of interest is the speculation and what the combatants have to say about it.

After November you'll get your hard facts, just like the rest of us. Until then, enjoy the show.
 
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I often think about Sony and bias against them in the North American media. Personally, I don't really have strong feelings about any of he big three, Sony just keeps doing and saying things that are incredibly hard to swallow at times.
I guess I found Amir's quote to be about the hardest to swallow of the whole article. "We have a lot of DRM, but Sony has a bit more ... so Blu Ray is bad. Oh and the PlayStation 3 will fail" is about how it translates. About two steps away from forum fodder, imo.

Microsoft is having enough troubles getting Windows Media Player to play HD-DVD ... because of precisely the thing Amir is bashing Sony about ... so maybe they should just be worried about their own backyard.

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Of course they are. The console hasn't shipped yet; the story is the bias. This is war son - console war. Until the product ships and there are actual numbers, the only point of interest is the speculation and what the combatants have to say about it.

After November you'll get your hard facts, just like the rest of us. Until then, enjoy the show.
Talk about that proverbial huh.
 
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I'm hoping the PS3 will have great success. I own a Xbox 360 and I'm happy with it and love the LIVE community, and have no plans buying a PS3, however. I believe the success of the PS3 will mean great things for the Xbox enthusiast and consumer. Microsoft will be forced to compete and put pressure on its 3rd party developers for better games and better content, updates, services and downloads for Xbox LIVE. I wish Sony's PS3 all the luck in the world.
 

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Hey man, the Wii can do that and only cost me $250. But then again, I've always backed the horse with the long odds.
 

Lex Darko

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I back the horse with the best value, but it's hard to value something you don't want like an uneeded media player.
 
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Lex Darko said:
I back the horse with the best value, but it's hard to value something you don't want like an uneeded media player.
And yet, if you want a game console that can really deliver high definition graphics, pick the one with a high definition media player. Only makes sense. My PS2 is a perfectly good DVD player, but the only time I use it was such is when some dumb Disney DVD DRM confuses my poor aging Toshiba. But it's still needed to deliver the amount of content for the games I play.
 

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There is one huge difference between the PS2's dvd player and the PS3 Blu Ray player. DVDs were becoming the obivious standard at that time. Which isn't the case with Blu Ray not yet anyway and as a comsumer I have think about what will I do with this media player if that format fails?

Because if it does fail that takes away from the PS3's value and it would be like buying a console that played a modern day version of betamax instead of the modern day vhs.
 
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Except that the PlayStation 3 will always benefit from having BluRay, even if BluRay fails to capitalize the market ... simply because it has a media with a capacity to match the kind of content it's trying to deliver. That's my point with the PS2 - I don't (and most people I know don't) use it as a DVD player. But being able to play DVD's as a game format gives it the capacity it needs.

The 360, on the other hand, is trying to display next generation graphics with this generation's storage medium. Sure, it cost less ... but it's also more prohibitive in the future. The HD-DVD addon might give a route for playing movies, but it won't solve the capacity problems of delivering games.

Sure, being a Blu-Ray player is part of the justification for the cost of the PS3 - and so if next gen movies isn't a big deal (or is a big deal and someone is format shy) the cost is harder to swallow. Regardless, though, the format is correct for the kind of machine the PlayStaion 3 is trying to be.
 

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RegularX said:
The 360, on the other hand, is trying to display next generation graphics with this generation's storage medium. Sure, it cost less ... but it's also more prohibitive in the future. The HD-DVD addon might give a route for playing movies, but it won't solve the capacity problems of delivering games.
That's certainly a talking point being put forward by Sony, but I can't name a single game that's required more than one DVD. I don't think DVD as a format is dying out anytime soon.
 
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The Darkness, when released, will have content exclusive to the PlayStation 3 because the Blu-Ray can handle it:

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/725/725801p1.html

So there's one. Well, OK, I suppose it's not required, but it will have better material with Blu-Ray. And that's a likely target for early PS3 titles - it's a lot easier to get high def video+game conent jammed into a Blu-Ray disc than DVD. Think N64 versus PlayStation with the difference in intros and cut-scenes and the like.

No, DVD isn't dying (and I didn't say that). But if you want to deliver high definition videos with your game you need something with the capacity to hold them.