Thief Will Feature a "Less Goth" Garrett - UPDATED

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Thief Will Feature a "Less Goth" Garrett - UPDATED


He may look like the bass player from a Bauhaus cover band, but Eidos says it's actually toned down the "goth" look of the redesigned Garrett.

Like it or not, a new Thief means a new Garrett, although game director Nicolas Cantin said that while Eidos had "carte blanche" on the design, the team wanted to keep Garrett's "main DNA" because it works pretty well as-is. But change is inevitable, and the anti-hero of the upcoming series reboot will not be quite as we remember him.

"We wanted to bring him more for the modern audience of today's console market," Cantin said. "He's now in the game doing more action moves and that's how we wanted the costume and the suit to reflect that."

"Time has moved on," Narrative Director Steve Gallagher added. "We're not still in 1998."

Perhaps even more interesting, and certainly more confusing, is Cantin's statement that Eidos has toned down Garrett's "gothic" look to make him more mainstream. "For example, black nails and things like that - we don't have that any more. We want to make him a little bit more mainstream on that," he explained. "Yes, he's a dark character, but we don't want really to say he's a gothic one, even though the Victorian period feels really gothic."

Yet while the original Garrett wasn't what I'd call particularly goth, the new guy comes to the party with a pasty, pale complexion, skin-tight leather and more eyeshadow than Siouxsie Sioux. That's not necessarily a bad thing (or so I keep telling myself, as I struggle to keep a lid on the inches-from-freaking-out long-time Thief fan inside me) but if this is the "less goth" Garrett, I can't even begin to imagine what he looked like originally. Bereft in deathly bloom, perhaps - alone in a darkened room. Or am I just missing something here?

Source: GameInformer [http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2013/03/13/meet-the-new-garrett-from-thief.aspx]

UPDATE: In response to concerns about all this "less goth" business, Cantin clarified his words on the Eidos Montreal blog [http://community.eidosmontreal.com/blogs/Going-Rogue]. "Hey guys, I think I might not have illustrated some of my points clearly on the video. It's not correct to say that we're trying to make Thief 'mainstream', or that we're trying to make Garrett 'less gothic'... This isn't the case," he said.

"I was referring specifically to a previous Garrett design we tried out internally and not Garrett from the previous games. Our early design went a LOT more gothic - with black nails etc - but we thought that this wasn't true to the legacy of Garrett so we pulled it back a bit. Returning to something more true to the original Garrett is what I meant when I said we made him more 'mainstream', this wasn't a comment about the direction of the game," he continued. "I can assure you we're huge fans of the original games and we've done our homework to create a game that maintains the essence of the original. I can't wait to show you more of the game and Garrett soon!"

The blog post stated that Thief will be a "story-driven, first-person adventure as made famous by past games in the franchise" and that it will be possible to get through the entire game without killing anyone, adding, "Garrett is a Master Thief, not a killing machine."


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VladG

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Ahem. That's *less* goth? Seriously?

He looks like a freaking panda!

I think I'm going to have to pretend like this remake never happened.
 

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He reminds me of the merchant from Resident Evil 4, only with a more monotone appearance.
 

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He looks like a mopey little bastard. I hope he doesn't ever start whining about how terrible it is stealing everything that isn't nailed down.

Okay, fine, I'm just a little bitter they took out the supernatural elements. Doesn't mean this won't be good of course.
 

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You're right Andy he looks pretty goth to me.

Also: a reboot that focuses more on action in order to appeal to "the modern audience of today's console market"? How unusual.
 

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Looks like a scene kid who just won an all expenses paid shopping spree at Hot Topic.
 

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This... does not make me feel confident. Hopefully "more action moves" means more dynamic and acrobatic ways of traversing the environment and not "more forced combat." Because fuck that noise.

I wouldn't bet on it, though :[
 

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ScrabbitRabbit said:
This... does not make me feel confident. Hopefully "more action moves" means more dynamic and acrobatic ways of traversing the environment and not "more forced combat." Because fuck that noise.

I wouldn't bet on it, though :[
Chances are, it will probably mean more QTEs.
 

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Oh god that makes me worried especially with them saying they want him to appeal to a more mainstream audience, that just sounds like them preemptively covering themselves in case this goes as bad as they're afraid it will.
 

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I've had too many beloved franchises be rebooted in a spirit that's not even close to the original to have my hopes high for this.

But we'll see.
 

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"Time has moved on," Narrative Director Steve Gallagher added. "We're not still in 1998."
Yeah back in '98 if someone came to rob your house dressed like that they'd get laughed out of town :p

I think they still need to tone it back several notches there. Also I don't remember Garrett being particularly goth to begin with, more a loner who just cares about doing what he needs to do to get paid.

Damn it Eidos I want to be positive about this reboot, but with no supernatural elements, "actiony" stuff, instinct mode and now eyeliner, you have me a little concerned.
 

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I think he looks pretty cool, like pretty much every thief/rogue character in fantasy ever but still i think he looks cool. but garrettt wasnt really all the gothy in the other games, atleast from what i remeber.
 

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Yeah.... old Garrett was totally a goth..... I'm not one to worry about reboots - but this plus the whole "action scene" quote have me slightly concerned.
 

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The eyeshadow looks a bit silly, but whatever. I care a lot more about whether they get Stephen Russell back to do Garrett's voice.