Google Bans Facial Recognition Apps on Glass

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Google Bans Facial Recognition Apps on Glass


In response to privacy concerns, Google says that "at this time" it won't allow any apps for Google Glass that incorporate facial recognition.

Google Glass is pretty cool, at least in the sense that wildly nerdy techno-eyewear can be considered as such, but it's not without its detractors. Foremost among them are people who worry, not without reason, that the device will open up a host of privacy issues; bad enough that it's foreseeable in a not-too-distant future that they could be common among law enforcement agents who would have the ability to see and know all about you with a mere glance, but what happens when that power is available to anyone?

That's an oversimplification of a very complex matter that deserves far more debate than it will ever get on an internet forum, but Google is taking early steps to allay fears about such intrusions by officially putting the kibosh on facial recognition Glassware.

"We've been listening closely to you, and many have expressed both interest and concern around the possibilities of facial recognition in Glass," the company said in a statement. "As Google has said for several years, we won't add facial recognition features to our products without having strong privacy protections in place. With that in mind, we won't be approving any facial recognition Glassware at this time."

That's obviously not the end of the story: the "at this time" qualifier leaves the door open for Google to change its mind tomorrow, and given that facial recognition is one of the most obvious applications for this kind of device, I think it will inevitably become part of the package to some extent. Nonetheless, the decision to put on the brakes is almost certainly a net positive move from a PR standpoint, and the paranoid privacy nut in me is happy to see Google at least pretending to take the issue seriously too.

Source: Project Glass [https://plus.google.com/+projectglass/posts/fAe5vo4ZEcE]


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Kwil said:
Now if hackers didn't exist, that'd even mean something.
thats pretty much it, you can ban whatever you want but there will always be those that don't care. I still cant see a use for these glasses but will keep an eye on them
 

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I don't understand why there is a particular issue with google glass. I mean, there is nothing it can do that your modern day smartphone can't. This device really is just a smartphone on your face.
 

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grigjd3 said:
I don't understand why there is a particular issue with google glass. I mean, there is nothing it can do that your modern day smartphone can't. This device really is just a smartphone on your face.
Except that it's pretty damn obvious when you walk around holding up your smartphone in front of you. Google Glass? Not quite so obvious.
 

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The Rogue Wolf said:
grigjd3 said:
I don't understand why there is a particular issue with google glass. I mean, there is nothing it can do that your modern day smartphone can't. This device really is just a smartphone on your face.
Except that it's pretty damn obvious when you walk around holding up your smartphone in front of you. Google Glass? Not quite so obvious.
So the problem is that is a camera mounted near your eye? I mean, if that's really bothering people, I hope they don't bother to look on Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/Smallest-Camera-Camcorder-Video-Hidden/dp/B009TQ4L5Q/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1370296314&sr=8-8&keywords=hidden+camera

I mean, that's a webcam the size of a finger nail for only twenty dollars.
 

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grigjd3 said:
So the problem is that is a camera mounted near your eye? I mean, if that's really bothering people, I hope they don't bother to look on Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/Smallest-Camera-Camcorder-Video-Hidden/dp/B009TQ4L5Q/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1370296314&sr=8-8&keywords=hidden+camera
And if that could recognise faces in realtime, you'd have something resembling ana rgument.
 

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It's only a matter of time until facial recognition software becomes the norm really.

Who knows, maybe masks will become fashionable to counter this? Or maybe headgear that interferes with the software? I also know a big pair of sunglasses can really throw off facial recognition software, of course that was a couple of years ago so it might not work so well nowadays.
 

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Zachary Amaranth said:
grigjd3 said:
So the problem is that is a camera mounted near your eye? I mean, if that's really bothering people, I hope they don't bother to look on Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/Smallest-Camera-Camcorder-Video-Hidden/dp/B009TQ4L5Q/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1370296314&sr=8-8&keywords=hidden+camera
And if that could recognise faces in realtime, you'd have something resembling ana rgument.
And why can't a webcam stream to a computer to do exactly that? Did you actually think about that comment before you made it?
 
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As one who actually has difficulty recognizing faces or remembering names, I would actually love an app that would post a nametag under faces as I walked around.

Normally, I get to be totally awkward as people I can't remember come up to me and talk to me as if we've been friends forever. It usually takes three to five minutes before I get enough to deduce from context who the heck this stranger is.

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Andy Chalk said:
"We've been listening closely to you, and many have expressed both interest and concern around the possibilities of facial recognition in Glass...
Yeah, like I'm gonna take off my tin-foil hat now, Google! Sure, people are unnerved by Google Glass but that's nothing compared to the scary potential of "Google Ear"!!!
 

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grigjd3 said:
And why can't a webcam stream to a computer to do exactly that? Did you actually think about that comment before you made it?
Carrying a computer around, in most instances, will be fairly conspicuous, unlike glasses. Which makes me wonder if you actually thought about that comment before you made it.
 

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IndianaJonny said:
Andy Chalk said:
"We've been listening closely to you, and many have expressed both interest and concern around the possibilities of facial recognition in Glass...
Yeah, like I'm gonna take off my tin-foil hat now, Google! Sure, people are unnerved by Google Glass but that's nothing compared to the scary potential of "Google Ear"!!!
Silly goose, you can't escape from google ear! They're installed in the walls, all of them!
 

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I think people have been watching too much NCIS or something - That sort of facial recognition isn't even close to possible. Picking a face out of a small subset can be achieved somewhat accurately but identifying any passer by on the street isn't possible and probably never will be. If it was used to try any identify a particular face it could be as helpful as 'yeah, that kinda looks like him' but in that case it would be much more effective to use your damn eyes. As it stands facial recognition is useful for little more than guessing which friends are in a photo and as a pretty unsecure and unreliable login method.
 

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Zachary Amaranth said:
grigjd3 said:
And why can't a webcam stream to a computer to do exactly that? Did you actually think about that comment before you made it?
Carrying a computer around, in most instances, will be fairly conspicuous, unlike glasses. Which makes me wonder if you actually thought about that comment before you made it.
There are computers that fit into your pocket. If that isn't enough processing power, those same computers can stream data to your desktop or $2000 Supercomputer [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jq5nrHz9I94]. Nothing that Glass can do cannot already be done by a determined individual.

@grigjd3

The worry here - and it is a legitimate one - is that it will put such capabilities in the hand of any yahoo that is willing to buy Glass and download an app. Basically the privacy invasion equivalent of script kiddies. Can you imagine being accused of a crime and then having a nontrivial portion of the public setting their app to alert them upon recognition of your face? Heck, combine it with traditional hacking, and you could have an app that automatically recognizes anyone had ever been convicted of a felony. And in case you aren't sure, that would be a bad thing. Sentencing doesn't include harassment for the rest of your life. Heck, want a more black and white example? How about an app that tracks known and suspected homosexuals? The potential for mass targeted prejudice and harassment is boundless.

Of course, this is going to be a reality no matter what we want. The technology is there already, it was only a matter of time before someone put it in a cheap and accessible package for the masses.
 

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Not that this is where yet but I want an augmented reality app where I can flag people as assholes and the computer in my vision would replace their faces with butts.

I also want an augmented reality app that turns all fat people into the michelin man, or possibly stay puft and turns all those bums begging at intersections into the robot from Lost In Space, or possibly Pokey's from SMB.

 

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Honestly, I have no problem with invasion of privacy on this scale. Sure, it is very bothersome for some people and it can make it a helluva lot easier for the general public to enact prejudice against others, but I don't care about that stuff. As long as it isn't able to spy into my home from the outside, I'm perfectly fine with it. Once it can see through walls, however, I'll get mad.

Also, a very easy workaround to this entire thing is to require apps to have incredibly strict privacy settings where you are required to manually add a person to a list of "only these people can see my info" type thing. Or hell, Integrate the thing into Google+ or facebook (heh. Thats kinda punny) and have different tiers of privacy for work, family, friends, and public.

That won't stop hackers, but neither will banning the apps from the device.
 

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Goddamn, and here I was hoping that no longer would I have to embarass myself by forgetting the names of lots of people I should know.