albino boo said:
I'm going to take issue with the description of the 30 years war as well....Religion played a major part in the 30 years war but French strategic imperative also played a major role.
I totally agree with you, I just had to simplify due to word count! I really hope more people start looking at the 30 Year's War, as it's really fascinating and not a lot of people in the US have even heard of it unless they majored in European History.
TiberiusEsuriens said:
There are a ton of pirate movies and games that tackle one ore two of these topics, but I don't think we've seen anyone else besides Ubisoft manage to weave them together all at once.
They do have 40 hours (plus DLC) to do it when most movies have only two - so that helps! But yes, I really enjoy the little historical sprinklings Ubi does. They generally do quite a good job, though there's always room for improvement.
Lurklen said:
An interesting thing about Ac4's Adewale(sorry for spelling and SPOILERS!!!) is he had just as much claim to the ship as Edward but decides to be quartermaster because as Edward says "These men wouldn't take orders from you." and when he presents himself to Benjiman Honigold Ben questions Edward about letting Ade carry a weapon.
So I think it's addressed in the game just not a major focus.
Gerishnakov said:
Lurklen said:
An interesting thing about Ac4's Adewale(sorry for spelling and SPOILERS!!!) is he had just as much claim to the ship as Edward but decides to be quartermaster because as Edward says "These men wouldn't take orders from you." and when he presents himself to Benjiman Honigold Ben questions Edward about letting Ade carry a weapon.
So I think it's addressed in the game just not a major focus.
I agree. I recall that first moment you mention, as well as later when, as I believe we saw in either trailers or preview videos, Edward asks Adewale if he will return to Africa after making his fortune, showing up his inherent lack of understanding of the situation faced by many former American slaves at this time in history.
putowtin said:
wonderful read as always, as said it is brought up a couple of times (so far) in the game about how a crew wouldn't respect a black captain, it'll be interesting to see if anything else is said. Then again ubisoft could have gone down the other route of "everythings peachy"!
I'll be interested to see how they do this. I've not had a chance to pick the game up yet but will soon. It's interesting that they acknowledge it. Historical fiction protagonists have a tendency to be far more open-minded about this sort of thing than their peers - mostly because authors worry that a heavily bigoted protagonist will turn the audience off. There are exceptions to this, of course. Namely Harry Flashman and pretty much any protagonist from a James Ellroy novel.
Having an Afro-Caribbean boatswain or quartermaster is a recurring trope in pirate movies starting in the '40s and even appearing in the Pirates of the Caribbean series. It's one of those things where both sides have their pros and cons. If you portray a black character working as a warrant officer on a non-discriminatory pirate ship, it's perpetuating a myth that whitewashes part of the history of slavery. On the other hand, it creates a good role for a black actor and a positive role model for any non-white kids watching the movie/playing the game (and frankly, our pool of heroes in games is pretty whitebread and could really do with some diversity). Ubi seems like they're knowingly using the trope but pointing out that it would be uncommon, which seems like a fair way to split the difference. I'll be interested to see how they handle it, especially in the DLC.