Fox Is Probably Not Going To Make An R-Rated Deadpool Movie

RossaLincoln

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Fox Is Probably Not Going To Make An R-Rated Deadpool Movie



But comments by Simon Kinberg suggest they've considered it.

We all know that Fox and Sony would love to do with their licensed Marvel properties what Marvel has done with the Marvel Cinematic Universe. They probably won't succeed, however, but of the two studios, Fox probably has the biggest advantage in that unlike Spider-Man, the X-Men and Fantastic Four properties constitute a diverse enough universe on which multiple franchises could be based.

Of course, the problem is that Fox has made genuinely terrible films based on the X-men and Fantastic Four franchises so consistently you'd think that was the whole point*. But because people continue to flock to these movies despite that unhappy fact, they still have ownership of some of the Marvel Universe's coolest characters. One of these characters is Deadpool, last seen played by Ryan Reynolds in X-Men Origins: Wolverine.

Deadpool is a somewhat interesting character, a parody of the grimdark antiheroes that made 90s comics so insufferable and a seemingly good fit for film in the post-MCU era of less self-serious comic films. Of course, a Deadpool stand-alone film has been 'in development' for years, with Ryan Reynolds set to reprise the role and visual effects artist Tim Miller attached to direct. Reynolds has been pushing hard behind the scenes for such a film to be given an R-rating, and at least one person involved with this potential movie thinks it should be.

Speaking to Collider at C2E2 in chicago, X-Men: Days of Future Past screenwriter Simon Kinberg was asked about the expansion of Fox's superhero films and the possibility of making an R-rated Deadpool. Here's what he said:

Yeah, it makes sense to me. Genuinely it's early phases, early days, but if you're gonna do a Deadpool movie, I think you've gotta do a hard-R, darker movie and he is the perfect character to do it with.

The prospect of an adult-oriented Deadpool movie is indeed awesome. But here's the thing: it's probably not going to happen.

The fact is, R-rated comic book super hero movies are big risks. 2008's Punisher: War Zone didn't break $10 million, and while Kick-Ass and Kick-Ass 2 were both successes, they also weren't burdened by association with an existing franchise. Making the film R-rated locks out a lot of people whose main interest in seeing it comes from having liked the 2009 PG-13 film it is a semi-sequel to. But more importantly, Ryan Reynolds has not had what one might call a great track record as an action movie/blockbuster headliner since he last played Deadpool. His Green Lantern barely turned a tiny profit on its $200 million budget, and the recent RIPD was an embarrassing flop. Not exactly someone studios will confidently feel can open an R-rated comic book film.

But it's cool at least that the people who might make the film are at least thinking in the right direction. Even if, of course, we know if it's anything like most of Fox's super hero movies, it's going to be terrible (assuming it ever gets made.)

So readers, what do you think? Is R-rated Deadpool something that perks your interest up? Do you even care one way or the other? And why the hell can't someone who is as likable and funny as Ryan Reynolds manage to be in movies that don't suck?

Source: Collider [http://collider.com/deadpool-movie-rating-fox-marvel-movies/]

*I realize that The Amazing Spider-Man is not good. But we can all agree that Sony originally got it right with Sam Raimi's first two Spidey films, right?

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Tireseas_v1legacy

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Considering I randonly picked up a Deadpool compilation that was split between a 1970s blacksploitation/softcore porn style and a modern style, both with a main antagonist literally called "the White Man" and a series of racially-tinged jokes in it, can we just not have a Deadpool movie if they're not willing to go to the full R?

I mean, seriously, Deadpool is the comic version of the "Movie" franchise (Scary Movie, etc.). You have to go all the way or it's just going to be terrible.
 

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I don't really care one way or the other since I never really likes the X-men and don't really care for Fox's movies, but I have to agree that the only way to do a Deadpool movie is to go R or go home. Just like the only way to make a Spider-Man movie is to go Rami and not have Venom forced on him by execs.
 

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Looking back over IMDB, Reynolds has... never really helmed a hit, has he...?

There's also the small matter that even Reynolds' portrayal of Deadpool in the Wolverine movie kind of pissed a lot of people off. Now I'll be the first to recognize that wasn't his fault; whoever finalized the script apparently decided that Deadpool's distinctive feature was that he was also a regenerator like Wolverine, so there shouldn't be any problem with making him a mute in his ultimate incarnation. (And please, someone hang the person responsible up by his screenwriting thumbs.)

I wouldn't say no to a Deadpool movie, with or without Reynolds in it. I don't think such a movie would automatically be worse for having Reynolds in it, though given the above, there's a real possibility it would do worse as a result.

But R or PG-13, no way would I go to see such a movie in its first week. I would be waiting on professional reviews, and friends' reviews, and possibly for it to come to the second-run theater if there was a glimmer of a doubt.
 

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Fox is also probably ran by complete fucking idiots.
BigTuk said:
Of course not. MNost films these days air targeted for a Pg-13 rating so they can get maximum viewership. WIthout pleasing anyone.
Yep, that's why Hollywood really needs to pay attention to this video:[youtube=wqnNURx3Y6Q?start=40
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Hairless Mammoth said:
Fox is also probably ran by complete fucking idiots.
BigTuk said:
Of course not. MNost films these days air targeted for a Pg-13 rating so they can get maximum viewership. WIthout pleasing anyone.
Yep, that's why Hollywood really needs to pay attention to this video:[youtube=wqnNURx3Y6Q?start=40
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Yeah, that's common knowledge around these parts. The last thing a Deadpool movie needs is to be tied to X-Men Origins: Wolverine. That's like tying a a fabulous lobster dinner to a dead body.
 

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Alright, FOX may not do it but maybe they'll commission one of their in-house studios to make it. If they're going to make a Deadpool movie at all, you have to make something R-Rated...they got away with PG-13 Wolverine movies and only one of them was abhorrent. Deadpool, like The Punisher, just won't seem...right...in PG-13 or less. Unless of course the Deadpool movie plans on being a Lego Movie style thing that winks at the child audience and goes in THAT direction I guess...
 

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In all honesty, I think they could do an R-rated Deadpool movie, but it would have to be a comedy. The Deadpool movie should actually be a parody/spoof of current superhero movie trends, Deadpool always doing a wink-wink-nudge-nudge thing like he does in the comics. Maybe if they kept the budget lower than typical superhero stuff, but even then I wonder.
 

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They put Deadpool in the Ultimate cartoon and every modern Deadpool fan I know loved it. How would a PG-13 movie be any worse? He's already more cartoony than Slapstick, and Slapstick was a literal cartoon.

RossaLincoln said:
But we can all agree that Sony originally got it right with Sam Raimi's first two Spidey films, right?
You mean "Spider-Man for People Who Don't Like Spider-Man" 1 and 2? No, I will most certainly not agree they got it right. For all the hate ASM gets, it's the better series thus far, especially in terms of "getting it right."
 

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I liked Ryan Reynolds as Wade Wilson in X-Men Origins, he was funny and seemed pretty fitting for the role. Too bad he keeps taking roles in bad movies.
 

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cursedseishi said:
Actually, the only part of that movie that pissed people off in terms of Deadpool was HOW they introduced him - a complete anti-Deadpool, so to speak. And, just to add, Deadpool wasn't giving "regeneration" solely for the movie. It's in the comics, it's been in the comics for a while.
Oh, I know. I'm just saying that "Hey, this guy regenerates, so we can make him the ultimate fight antagonist for Wolverine!" was clearly foremost in the minds of those responsible. We barely get to see Wade as the snarky guy, never mind getting one who was a multiple personality who regularly breaks the fourth wall. Deadpool who was deprived of regeneration would still be notable; Deadpool deprived of his voice isn't really the same character at all.

(Honestly, that movie regularly screwed up characters and motivations in the name of making sure there were regular fight scenes, however superfluous to the plot, presumably on the assumption that the target audience would fall asleep if there wasn't someone getting snikt'd every fifteen minutes or so.)
 

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Callate said:
cursedseishi said:
Actually, the only part of that movie that pissed people off in terms of Deadpool was HOW they introduced him - a complete anti-Deadpool, so to speak. And, just to add, Deadpool wasn't giving "regeneration" solely for the movie. It's in the comics, it's been in the comics for a while.
Oh, I know. I'm just saying that "Hey, this guy regenerates, so we can make him the ultimate fight antagonist for Wolverine!" was clearly foremost in the minds of those responsible. We barely get to see Wade as the snarky guy, never mind getting one who was a multiple personality who regularly breaks the fourth wall. Deadpool who was deprived of regeneration would still be notable; Deadpool deprived of his voice isn't really the same character at all.

(Honestly, that movie regularly screwed up characters and motivations in the name of making sure there were regular fight scenes, however superfluous to the plot, presumably on the assumption that the target audience would fall asleep if there wasn't someone getting snikt'd every fifteen minutes or so.)
He seemed a lot more "Ultimate Deadpool" than "good Deadpool".
Yah, Ultimate Deadpool is just a faceless mutant-hater from whats-its-name the country that Doom rules over.
 

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Mr. Q said:
Yeah, that's common knowledge around these parts. The last thing a Deadpool movie needs is to be tied to X-Men Origins: Wolverine. That's like tying a a fabulous lobster dinner to a dead body.
Bad example. Tying a fabulous lobster dinner to a dead body is something that Deadpool would do...
 

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I think an R rated Deadpool movie could be amazing.

p.s.
"*I realize that The Amazing Spider-Man is not good. But we can all agree that Sony originally got it right with Sam Raimi's first two Spidey films, right?"

No. I grew up with the 90s cartoons and so I inevitably hate all recent versions of spider man.
 

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Jim_Callahan said:
How do you figure that the version where Parker's a straight-up overconfident jock with the whole world on his side before getting powers by dumb luck and going on an angst-fueled quest rotating around the mystery of his missing parents, experiencing no character development in the process, is the better adaptation?
I think you accidentally switched over to describing the Raimi films there.