Destiny Player Solos "Crota's End" Without Firing A Shot

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Destiny Player Solos "Crota's End" Without Firing A Shot

Do you think Destiny's "Crota's End" raid is tough? Try beating it by yourself with grenades and melee attacks only.

We really shouldn't be surprised by these displays anymore, should we? There are countless examples of dedicated players beating multiplayer content single-handedly - <a href=http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/120812-Quadriplegic-Gamer-Solos-Mass-Effect-3-Multiplayer>sometimes literally. But taking on <a href=http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/138985-Destiny-Dark-Below-DLC-Locks-the-Will-of-Crota-Weekly-Strike>the toughest Destiny raid to date, by yourself, without using a gun? And winning? There really should be an in-game achievement for that.

The raid, for non-Destiny players out there, is "Crota's End" - a high-level finale to the already challenging "The Dark Below" DLC expansion. Beating this level, its minions, and the ridiculously powerful boss Crota requires six players working together - with their guns - right up until the last moment. But much like mad scientists of old, Destiny streamer TheHM05 was laughed at by commenters who said beating Crota without guns was impossible. So over the course of three months, he developed a strategy to beat "Crota's End" by himself.... without firing a shot.

How did TheHM05 do it? With a highly-refined Warlock specializing in quick-respawn grenades, Sunsinger supers, and a cranked-up melee punch. It's even possible to have successful melee strikes refresh grenades even faster - which certainly doesn't hurt. And of course, upon reaching a key point the sword relic activates that can be used to finish off Crota himself. But it's still absolutely nuts, given that "Crota's End" starts with a Level 30 difficulty. (He also soloed it in Hard Mode, although he still needs guns there... <a href=http://youtu.be/eHqukk9-LJU>for now.)

"Take that you stupid trolls," TheHM05 said victoriously. "That's what you get. You said I couldn't do it. Said it was impossible. All of you are dumb, and I am awesome."

I find myself relieved nobody laughed at TheHM05 to say he couldn't build a deathray or something. Given how hard "Crota's End" can be, it probably would've only taken him an extra month or two.

Source: <a href=http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2015-03-09-destiny-player-solos-crotas-end-raid-without-firing-a-bullet>Eurogamer

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Barbas

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I love watching people do this. This, speedruns, mega-builds, all the mad things people do just because they can. These things are amazing and I love them for it.
 

Fasckira

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That victory roar, epic stuff! Be nice if he gets some kind of ingame recognition for this.
 

Lunar Templar

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congratulations you insane, glorious bastard.

as to the neighsayers...

really ...

this shit happens all the time any more, they will find away and you will look stupid for doubting them. again.
 

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Fanghawk said:
Destiny Player Solos "Crota's End" Without Firing A Shot

Do you think Destiny's "Crota's End" raid is tough? Try beating it by yourself, on hard, with grenades and melee attacks only.
Hard? dont right an article of a game you know nothing about... ask someone else or leave it
 

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benvorbeck said:
Fanghawk said:
Destiny Player Solos "Crota's End" Without Firing A Shot

Do you think Destiny's "Crota's End" raid is tough? Try beating it by yourself, on hard, with grenades and melee attacks only.
Hard? dont right an article of a game you know nothing about... ask someone else or leave it
Well if Bungie can call it hard mode I don't know why I can't. https://www.bungie.net/7_Crotas-End---Hard-Mode/en/News/News?aid=12510
 

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Fanghawk said:
Try beating it by yourself, on hard, with grenades and melee attacks only.

Wait wait wait, hold the phone. The raid run in this video, is not on Hard mode.

3 things, the enemies are level 32. On hard mode, every enemy is level 33, one level above the cap of the game itself.

Also on hard mode, Crota auto-enrages when he's low on health. Which spawns an Oversoul and basically dooms the entire party to an instant death unless they destroy the oversoul, which takes the combined fire of an entire party using their most powerful weapons. And when Enraged, Crota spawns the Oversoul constantly. Making the encounter essentially unwinnable. Crota did not enrage when he was low on health like he normally does on Hard mode. If this happened, there's no way the guy would have been able to win alone.

But most importantly, there is NO chalice of light. And why is that important? The chalice of light is what allows your health to regenerate. With no chalice of light, you cannot regen your health. This guy's technique of jumping around, tanking blows and relying on his health regeneration, would be impossible on hard.

Don't get me wrong, this guy's achievement is quite impressive even on normal mode. But I was aghast when I read the article before watching the video, only to realize it's on Normal mode.

I've seen a few videos of other people instakilling Crota using glitches. But this is the first time I've seen someone take him on the legitimate method without firing a shot, and alone. Very nicely done. But this is definitely not on hard mode.
 

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Tohuvabohu said:
Fanghawk said:
Try beating it by yourself, on hard, with grenades and melee attacks only.

Wait wait wait, hold the phone. The raid run in this video, is not on Hard mode.

2 things, the enemies are level 32. On hard mode, every enemy is level 33, one level above the cap of the game itself.

But most importantly, there is NO chalice of light. And why is that important? The chalice of light is what allows your health to regenerate. With no chalice of light, you cannot regen your health. This guy's technique of jumping around, tanking blows and relying on his health regeneration, would be impossible on hard.

Don't get me wrong, this guy's achievement is quite impressive even on normal mode. But I was aghast when I read the article before watching the video, only to realize it's on Normal mode.

I've seen a few videos of other people instakilling Crota using glitches. But this is the first time I've seen someone take him on the legitimate method without firing a shot, and alone. Very nicely done.
Ahhh, I see what you mean. The source specifies, however, that after playing in normal he ramped up to hard. Not sure if there's a video of that to confirm, but will look into it.
 

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Fanghawk said:
Ahhh, I see what you mean. The source specifies, however, that after playing in normal he ramped up to hard. Not sure if there's a video of that to confirm, but will look into it.
That would be amazing as hell. If the guy can somehow manage to do this without the chalice, and somehow overcoming Crota's auto enrage, that would totally blow me away.

Still though, it took me and a team of 5 other people right under 3 hours to beat Crota on Normal mode our first time. This guy's mastery of the game, and gear specialization, is seriously impressive.
 

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Tohuvabohu said:
Fanghawk said:
Ahhh, I see what you mean. The source specifies, however, that after playing in normal he ramped up to hard. Not sure if there's a video of that to confirm, but will look into it.
That would be amazing as hell. If the guy can somehow manage to do this without the chalice, and somehow overcoming Crota's auto enrage, that would totally blow me away.

Still though, it took me and a team of 5 other people right under 3 hours to beat Crota on Normal mode our first time. This guy's mastery of the game, and gear specialization, is seriously impressive.

Here he is doing it solo on Hard. Although he DID need to use guns. So we're both right? Wrong? I guess?

Not seeing another video to suggest he he hadn't used bullets in hard (although maybe that's still coming, who knows with this guy) so I'll tweak the intro until I see otherwise.
 

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Fanghawk said:

Here he is doing it solo on Hard. Although he DID need to use guns. So we're both right? Wrong? I guess?

Not seeing another video to suggest he he hadn't used bullets in hard (although maybe that's still coming, who knows with this guy) so I'll tweak the intro until I see otherwise.
Holy hell that's awesome.

He goes at him with basically the most powerful weapons in the game, and uses an exotic firearm which causes self healing to keep himself topped off without the chalice, very clever. Even though he needed to use bullets, soloing Crota on Hard and doing it legitimately is seriously impressive. Kudos to this mad bastard.
 

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Tohuvabohu said:
Fanghawk said:
Try beating it by yourself, on hard, with grenades and melee attacks only.

Wait wait wait, hold the phone. The raid run in this video, is not on Hard mode.

3 things, the enemies are level 32. On hard mode, every enemy is level 33, one level above the cap of the game itself.

Also on hard mode, Crota auto-enrages when he's low on health. Which spawns an Oversoul and basically dooms the entire party to an instant death unless they destroy the oversoul, which takes the combined fire of an entire party using their most powerful weapons. And when Enraged, Crota spawns the Oversoul constantly. Making the encounter essentially unwinnable. Crota did not enrage when he was low on health like he normally does on Hard mode. If this happened, there's no way the guy would have been able to win alone.

But most importantly, there is NO chalice of light. And why is that important? The chalice of light is what allows your health to regenerate. With no chalice of light, you cannot regen your health. This guy's technique of jumping around, tanking blows and relying on his health regeneration, would be impossible on hard.

Don't get me wrong, this guy's achievement is quite impressive even on normal mode. But I was aghast when I read the article before watching the video, only to realize it's on Normal mode.

I've seen a few videos of other people instakilling Crota using glitches. But this is the first time I've seen someone take him on the legitimate method without firing a shot, and alone. Very nicely done. But this is definitely not on hard mode.
All wrong.

You can regenerate health on hard mode. One way is to use weapons like Red Death that regens health when you kill an enemy. The other way is to use helmets that regen health when you pick up an Orb of Light. This requires a bit of team work, but you should be able to generate several Orbs in the first room by killing the Knights with your Supers. Ideally each player will have 8-16 Orbs they can pick up for healing.

As for the Oversoul, you ignore it. That's right. You ignore it. A skilled Sword Bearer will only drop Crota low enough to kill him with one more sword before you go to the Ogre room. Killing the Ogres with Supers can also help keep your party alive for the above stated reasons. Once you drop Crota the first time, he should enrage after the first series of swings. Your group then ignores his Oversoul and brings him down again. Ideally, you should kill him before the Oversoul kills your group. You might die anyway, but as long as Crota goes down, you'll earn your rewards.

Also, Defenders can use Ward of Dawn to distract the Knights with Boomers and save the sword bearer a lot of health and trouble.
 

Tohuvabohu

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Saltyk said:
All wrong.

You can regenerate health on hard mode.
Did you not read the rest of the thread? I said the same thing in the post directly above yours more than 3 hours ago actually. What I said was in regards to the Chalice of Light. And the original claim is that he did hard mode without firing a single shot.

As for the Oversoul, you ignore it. That's right. You ignore it. A skilled Sword Bearer will only drop Crota low enough to kill him with one more sword before you go to the Ogre room. Killing the Ogres with Supers can also help keep your party alive for the above stated reasons. Once you drop Crota the first time, he should enrage after the first series of swings. Your group then ignores his Oversoul and brings him down again. Ideally, you should kill him before the Oversoul kills your group. You might die anyway, but as long as Crota goes down, you'll earn your rewards.

Also, Defenders can use Ward of Dawn to distract the Knights with Boomers and save the sword bearer a lot of health and trouble.
I know that as well. And this can take a lot of coordination with an entire team to get Crota down to right amount of health to finish him off with one last sword. It becomes pretty much unwinnable if the sword is lost in the middle of his enrage.

I was curious if this guy would be able to set up all right pieces of bringing Crota to the right amount of health and getting a sword and forcing him to kneel enough times to kill him straight through his enrage in the chaos of being attacked by all the hive without losing the sword, by himself. And he actually did.
 

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Kenjitsuka said:
Well, shows how boring Destiny is, if you ask me...
Its a flaw in the mechanics, I doubt it was intended to be as "easy" as that (which that still isn't easy mind you). Even WoW has had these issues before where there were things that were solo'ed that shouldn't have been able to be solo'ed. Naxxramas on the release of WotLK was solo'ed by mages because of a mob-buff that was able to be spellstolen.
It doesn't necessarily mean a game is boring if something that should take a group is solo'ed. However I'm not necessarily defending Destiny, I haven't played it since the beta and I enjoyed what I played but I can't say that experience didn't have its flaws. I am just saying that these things take dedicated people who find ways to jimmy the system so-to-speak, and eventually that ability or that mechanic flaw is patched out and things return to normal.
Game devs have no way of planning on how players will attempt a feat and it takes QA level dedication to find where the game breaks in the better coded games. Seems whatever story-flaws Destiny has, the coding seems to be solid enough if it takes someone a couple dedicated months to break it.
 

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oh I'm still laughing at him because he actually wasted time of his life doing something that pointless in a shit game.