I'd take DK out and replace him with Sonic. And replace Master Chief with Kratos.Lightknight said:I'd probably have put Sonic near the top of the list. I don't care for the game but I certainly can't diminish his iconic status.
I wouldn't call Kratos a "hero"...Johnny Novgorod said:I'd take DK out and replace him with Sonic. And replace Master Chief with Kratos.Lightknight said:I'd probably have put Sonic near the top of the list. I don't care for the game but I certainly can't diminish his iconic status.
He puts the hero in anti-hero!CaitSeith said:I wouldn't call Kratos a "hero"...Johnny Novgorod said:I'd take DK out and replace him with Sonic. And replace Master Chief with Kratos.Lightknight said:I'd probably have put Sonic near the top of the list. I don't care for the game but I certainly can't diminish his iconic status.
No!Johnny Novgorod said:I'd take DK out and replace him with Sonic. And replace Master Chief with Kratos.
Gee mister, I don't know. My grandparents don't know who Master Chief is. I'm not sure where that puts us. If we're going to gauge things by what your non-gamer circle of relatives know and don't know, why can't we do it with my own? And for that matter, "merely popular among gamers" could be applied to MC as well. I live in a country where the Xbox sold late and sold like crap, and have yet to see a single game store use Master Chief in any of its promotional art. Whereas Mario and Kratos are nation-wide visual shorthand for THERE ARE VIDEOGAMES IN HERE.fix-the-spade said:No!Johnny Novgorod said:I'd take DK out and replace him with Sonic. And replace Master Chief with Kratos.
Kratos is not iconic, merely popular among gamers, or you could call him distinctive. Or to put it another way, my Grandparents know who Mario, Sonic, Lara Croft and The Master Chief are, they recognise the images and they know the names, even though games as a medium fly right over their heads.
Why did you attempt to put one in italics and not the other one?Despite first appearing in Pokemon Red and [/em]Pokemon Blue[/em]
Agreed. I can think of many characters that I'd consider more iconic than Kratos; Scorpion from Mortal Kombat seems the obvious one, since they're vaguely similar.fix-the-spade said:No!Johnny Novgorod said:I'd take DK out and replace him with Sonic. And replace Master Chief with Kratos.
Kratos is not iconic, merely popular among gamers, or you could call him distinctive. Or to put it another way, my Grandparents know who Mario, Sonic, Lara Croft and The Master Chief are, they recognise the images and they know the names, even though games as a medium fly right over their heads.
That's iconic, recognition above and beyond the medium they populate. Kratos is not there, he's not 'Ubisoft iconic' but he's not an icon of gaming.
I'd say the Master Chief deserves the spot. Drastically changed FPS games and multiplayer shooters forever.Johnny Novgorod said:I'd take DK out and replace him with Sonic. And replace Master Chief with Kratos.Lightknight said:I'd probably have put Sonic near the top of the list. I don't care for the game but I certainly can't diminish his iconic status.
None of his subsequent appearances have really mattered. I'd say he's still a circle with a triangle mouth.Caramel Frappe said:I'm not sure what's funnier ... that the majority of our iconic heroes are all from Nintendo or the fact one of the heroes listed was originally a circle with a mouth .... literally.
Halo made a difference in multiplayer shooters (I think the "drastically changed FPS" title should go to games like Half-Life or BioShock). But then God of War "drastically changed beat 'em ups" for that matter. And I've heard more games talked of as "God of War clones" rather than "Halo clones". What's a Halo clone? Military FPS with a sci-fi motif. What's a God of War clone? It goes beyond subject matter and addresses gameplay specifically.Lightknight said:I'd say the Master Chief deserves the spot. Drastically changed FPS games and multiplayer shooters forever.Johnny Novgorod said:I'd take DK out and replace him with Sonic. And replace Master Chief with Kratos.Lightknight said:I'd probably have put Sonic near the top of the list. I don't care for the game but I certainly can't diminish his iconic status.
Kratos is popular, but not as much and not as influential.