Clouds of Sils Maria - Mellow, Smart and Compelling
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Birdman but better and Kristen Stewart can act?
What is this black magic?
I must see it immediately!
OP: Good review, though I get the feeling that you were restraining yourself a little bit. This seems like one of those movies that you really want to dive into during the after-cinema glow that you get.
That was Cloud Atlas for me. If this hits that same sort of feeling(though obviously not on the same scale), I can see myself thoroughly enjoying this.
What is this black magic?
I must see it immediately!
OP: Good review, though I get the feeling that you were restraining yourself a little bit. This seems like one of those movies that you really want to dive into during the after-cinema glow that you get.
That was Cloud Atlas for me. If this hits that same sort of feeling(though obviously not on the same scale), I can see myself thoroughly enjoying this.
I do hope that, over the course of her career, Stewart gets to be remembered for something on the same scale of exposure as Twilight, only, y'know, good. Yes, she sucked in it, but even the best actors or actresses are going to suck when they have to work with a shitty screenplay, adapted from shitty source material, and with shitty direction. As someone who's passionate about performance myself, I can hardly blame her (along with the rest of the cast) for completely phoning it in and looking like they'd rather be in anything else than those movies, but for many of them it was their big break, and nobody, no matter how talented, can afford to turn down the first opportunity like that you get, or you're never going to get a second one.
Shame the same cannot be said for Robert Pattinson. He sucks in otherwise good movies as well.
Shame the same cannot be said for Robert Pattinson. He sucks in otherwise good movies as well.
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Also, Kristen Stewart outside of Twilight? This could be interesting. But I probably won't be seeing it as I avoid 'award winning festival-bate drama' at all costs.
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Also, Kristen Stewart outside of Twilight? This could be interesting. But I probably won't be seeing it as I avoid 'award winning festival-bate drama' at all costs.
Fair enough, but I'd mention that the movie's title is actually relevant. I understand that this is the kind of cinema that won't please everyone, but if it stands as a decent vector for Stewart's actual talent when freed from crappy directors and horrible screenplays, then I'm all for it.Alpha Maeko said:
A lot of moviegoers like to assume that *everything* in Twilight sucked. Actually, the actors were exactly on-point fairly often; it's just that the characters they played had no redeeming value whatsoever. If anything, the recent spate of adapted Young Adult weepies or Hollywood PG Softcore Quasi-Erotica stands as a clear example of great talent being stuck with piss-poor direction and scriptwriting.
Not that there's any way to salvage anything Stephanie Meyer or E.L. James would ever write, though. Their works are irredeemable.
As far as Sils Maria goes, though? Great actors, great script, on-point directorial skills - it just won't be your cup of tea if you're more into flicks where you can turn your brain off and have a blast for two hours.