Spectre - How to Ruin the James Bond Franchise
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Yeah, I knew this one was going to suck when I read about that interview where he talked about how he was completely done with this role and when asked if he would consider doing the role once more he said "Fuck no!" going on to add "The ONLY reason I would do it again is for the money."
Sold!Marter said:
Kind of annoying, though. Not just the wasted potential, but it's like, action looks better on the big screen, but I don't like to waste money on the big screen for movies that aren't very good. Hrmph.
Nope, I never did. Then again I still maintain Quantum Of Solace is one of the best Bond films of all, and barely anyone/no-one seems to agree with me...Marter said:
Generally I've heard good things - Mark Kermode loved it (he loathed 'Question Of Sport') - so this negative take is kinda surprising. Most liked Skyfall, which I thought was rather horrible (it rammed the series into an inelegant hard-reverse), though, so I'm used to not agreeing with consensus takes on Bond flicks. I wouldn't be surprised if I disliked Spectre.
Well, Skyfall is still the bar for this era for me.
Fantastic opening sequence, fun villain and a good sense of pace throughout without feeling so labourious that it stops dead nor so energetic that you can't see anything (*cough* Quantum of Solace *cough*) that it's just a good movie throughout.
This one also felt a bit underhyped too, which makes sense :/
Fantastic opening sequence, fun villain and a good sense of pace throughout without feeling so labourious that it stops dead nor so energetic that you can't see anything (*cough* Quantum of Solace *cough*) that it's just a good movie throughout.
This one also felt a bit underhyped too, which makes sense :/
Villians and intelligent villian plots are all i ask for in films, why does that hardly ever happen? The villian is the sole reason for the films existing, they need to be great. They need to feel a threat with high intelligence and unforgettable character. And their deaths have to feel spectacular enough to warrent a "fuck yeah, they deserved that!" Maybe the market is too oversaturated that it is nigh impossible to hit an original idea with these traits, but it tends towards disappointment mostly. Will still see this one, as it's cheaper than travelling and more legal than criminal damage alongside murder.
It was...okay. Skyfall was better, but as two hours of escapism, it was okay.
(I don't think there are any spoilers in the next bit, but...)
It's a shame it's going to be Craig's last - frankly, bowing out with Skyfall would've been better.
(I don't think there are any spoilers in the next bit, but...)
What gets me is the torture scene. What was the point of that? We get told in excruciating detail about what's going to happen to him and how it's going to affect him physically, then it happens...and he's up and perfectly fine minutes later. WTF?
It's a shame it's going to be Craig's last - frankly, bowing out with Skyfall would've been better.
Huh. I wouldn't think it was a bad idea to give the Bond movies a tighter continuity than they used to. And if any character could be used to explore real-world issues regarding espionage, it aught to be James Bond, but I think that drum's been beat enough times for better (CA: The Winter Soldier) and worse (ST: Into Darkness).
EDIT: But if they changed what SPECTRE means, I am going to be a very unhappy camper.
EDIT: But if they changed what SPECTRE means, I am going to be a very unhappy camper.
Well, maybe this is why Daniel Craig said he'd rather slash is wrists than be Bond again. ;p
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3264241/I-d-slash-wrists-Daniel-Craig-says-t-imagine-playing-James-Bond-does-money.html
He says he'd do it again for more money though, so I guess this one may not end up as his worst. Yay?
Oh well. There will always be more Bond movies.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3264241/I-d-slash-wrists-Daniel-Craig-says-t-imagine-playing-James-Bond-does-money.html
He says he'd do it again for more money though, so I guess this one may not end up as his worst. Yay?
Oh well. There will always be more Bond movies.
They never mention what SPECTRE stands for, or if it even stands for anything at all.Darth_Payn said:
I'll be completely honest, Mr. Hinx's fight scene was the only thing to get a real laugh out of me.
But yeah, the more I think about the movie, the less I like it. And a large part of that is how they tied Oberhauser into the plot of the last three movies, diminishing them in turn, like how a horror movie prequel explaining the backstory of the abominable monster makes it less threatening.
I'd recommend not watching this one, to be honest. It's clear that there's been some serious problems with production, since Craig'd rather slit his wrists than play Bond again.
Mr. Hinx's dying words: "Shit."
But yeah, the more I think about the movie, the less I like it. And a large part of that is how they tied Oberhauser into the plot of the last three movies, diminishing them in turn, like how a horror movie prequel explaining the backstory of the abominable monster makes it less threatening.
I'd recommend not watching this one, to be honest. It's clear that there's been some serious problems with production, since Craig'd rather slit his wrists than play Bond again.
think was average at least. still an ok watch but not as good as casino. skyfall was also better than quantum. good thing i have watched it in the cinema. still cheaper than on dvd.
This summarised my feelings about it quite well. I was enjoying it and all its lovely action and visuals, but as I got closer to the end I couldn't shake off how much the story was bothering me.
On a side note: Skyfall was both the better film and the better ending, so Spectre felt entirely redundant.
On a side note: Skyfall was both the better film and the better ending, so Spectre felt entirely redundant.
Okay, I haven't seen the film yet, and it won't be out in Oz until next week. But having seen the Movie Bob review, I have to ask...is everything a comic book movie to him? I mean, Batman Begins? The Dark Knight? Captain America? Yeah, Bourne's thrown in as well, but jeez...MarsAtlas said:
Sorry, off-topic I know, but please tell me I'm not the only one who wonders if MB has a point of reference outside comic book movies. 0_0
If he does, they are camp movies that are so full of cheese the theatres playing them will have rat problems as a result of screening them.Hawki said:
Now that's just not true, Casino Royal and Quantum of Solace where already bad movies, and all this movie did was remind us of that fact.Marter said:
That this movie "retroactively ruins" prior Craig Bonds seems like kind of a tall claim, but I guess I'll wait until I see it (whenever that comes about) to pass judgement. I mean, the Star Wars prequels were pretty bad, but they didn't actually take away my ability to enjoy the original trilogy.