The Escapist's 2016 Game of the Year
This is the big one - The Escapist's 2016 Game of the Year!
Read Full Article
This is the big one - The Escapist's 2016 Game of the Year!
Read Full Article
Valve could have made overwatch... 10 years ago. It seems the Valve of today is only capable of churning out hats and collecting royalties from games sold on Steam.Worgen said:"Steven says: Only Blizzard could have made Overwatch. It is mechanically sound, has a ton of free post-launch support, and is so professionally polished it shines. While plenty of other studios could have managed a game with one, or two of these qualities, only Blizzard could have pulled off all three."
Oh yeah, cause TF2 totally didn't have all those things like over 10 years ago. What a meh choice for goty.
Eh, probably capable of more, but just chooses not to.Steven Bogos said:Valve could have made overwatch... 10 years ago. It seems the Valve of today is only capable of churning out hats and collecting royalties from games sold on Steam.
I think the people of the Internet are far more worried about that. Nothing about Tracer's sexuality was really highlighted by Blizzard, it was just the usual twerps that turned a molehill into a mountain. And calling it a molehill at all in the first place is being generous.SlumlordThanatos said:Maybe Blizzard will pull their heads out of the asses, stop worrying about who's gay and who's not,
You're not wrong, but at the same time, Blizzard just seems to take pleasure in throwing fuel on the fire. Remember the whole thing about Tracer's behind the back victory pose? The only reason they drew attention to it is because they knew the community would ***** and moan like they always do.Hawki said:I think the people of the Internet are far more worried about that. Nothing about Tracer's sexuality was really highlighted by Blizzard, it was just the usual twerps that turned a molehill into a mountain. And calling it a molehill at all in the first place is being generous.SlumlordThanatos said:Maybe Blizzard will pull their heads out of the asses, stop worrying about who's gay and who's not,
I remember it, but weren't people moaning about it anyway? Way I recall the events was:SlumlordThanatos said:You're not wrong, but at the same time, Blizzard just seems to take pleasure in throwing fuel on the fire. Remember the whole thing about Tracer's behind the back victory pose? The only reason they drew attention to it is because they knew the community would ***** and moan like they always do.
IIRC, it was a single thread on their forums, and the majority of the people in that thread were berating the OP. Until Jeff stepped in and stirred everything up.Hawki said:I remember it, but weren't people moaning about it anyway?
Well, there's a wayward line in dire need of subjective qualifiers and/or context.The Escapist Staff said:It shows us that games are more fun when they don't take themselves so seriously.
I thought the comparisons to TF2 were exaggerated. Then I played it. It's literally TF2 with the nuanced weapon variety taken out and replaced with porn bait. It's not bad, because it's TF2, but if anything I prefer Hi-Rez's contribution to the genre, Paladins, a lot more. This is because Paladins actually changed up the gameplay style. The MOBA elements are much more pronounced, and the larger pool of abilities on each character makes each one more distinct and powerful feeling. It's not perfect (The balancing is all over the place), but it is a much more promising base.Worgen said:"Steven says: Only Blizzard could have made Overwatch. It is mechanically sound, has a ton of free post-launch support, and is so professionally polished it shines. While plenty of other studios could have managed a game with one, or two of these qualities, only Blizzard could have pulled off all three."
Oh yeah, cause TF2 totally didn't have all those things like over 10 years ago. What a meh choice for goty.
You're right. Only Blizzard could dump as much money as they have into producing a meme-and-waifu-porn generating Team Fortress 2 knockoff.The Escapist Staff said:Only Blizzard could have made Overwatch.
At least I'm not the only one who sees it.Worgen said:Oh yeah, cause TF2 totally didn't have all those things like over 10 years ago. What a meh choice for goty.
And continuing to update Team Fortress 2, Dota 2, CS:GO, Left 4 Dead 2, Source 2, and Steam. As well as starting and innovating the current industry of VR.Steven Bogos said:Valve could have made overwatch... 10 years ago. It seems the Valve of today is only capable of churning out hats and collecting royalties from games sold on Steam.
They did release a new game last year, though. The Lab.Hawki said:Eh, probably capable of more, but just chooses not to.
I don't really begrudge Valve - the Half-Life games are a net positive for me, but I could die happy without Half-Life 3 ever being released, and that's about it for Valve's repitoire that I've played (heck, not even played HL1). Going to say what a million other people have said that there's no financial incentive for Valve to make Half-Life 3 (or any games, really), and there's no way it's going to live up to the hype either.
I think we have very different definitions of "milking."Vigormortis said:I mean, it's pretty much their MO. Take someone else's idea (whether it be gameplay mechanics, art designs, character/setting/lore designs, etc), throw a fuck-ton of money into advertising and production, and milk it ad infinitum.
Well, what do you know, Valve DID produce a game...based on VR. Sigh...Vigormortis said:They did release a new game last year, though. The Lab.
And they've announced that they've had several projects in the works, including VR titles, that they're excited to show off this year.
What those projects are I've no idea. But we'll start finding out soon-ish.
There's far more than a slight difference between the two. One has a habit of hiring a team of talented, up-and-coming designers, giving them free reign to do whatever they please, and supporting their decision to build a larger, more complete version of the project(s) they were working on before joining the company. The other tends to use its current crop of (admittedly very talented) designers, copies someone else's idea, and dumps a lot of funding into putting their own spin on that idea (and advertising the hell out of it).Hawki said:Also, is this even a point of comparison with Valve, where a sizable portion, if not majority of their games are simply appropriating mods (Counter-Strike, Team Fortress 2, Day of Defeat, DotA 2, etc.)? Not to mention that Left 4 Dead/Alien Swarm are hardly going to get any awards for the originality of their plot, setting, or characters.
I mean, if that's not your thing that's fine, but The Lab is an amazing sampler of just a few of the possibilities VR offers. It's a great experience.Well, what do you know, Valve DID produce a game...based on VR. Sigh...
First I've heard about new projects, but I guess that's more reason for me not to care.