This. Also, Red Faction: Guerilla because dat destruction engine...Squilookle said:Mercenaries: Playground of Destruction
Mercenaries 2 is better I think. 1 had alot of cool ideas that 2 sadly got rid of, but 2 was way more a "Playground of Destruction", especially with co-op. And that it clearly wanted you to live and kick ass. (At full health you can fall from ANY height and survive...with 1hp, but still)Squilookle said:Pretty standard list which hits all the main notes, but I've always been more interested in the open world games that tried doing something different, and leave a much bigger lasting impression on the gamer because of it. Games like
Mercenaries: Playground of Destruction
Bully Scholarship Edition
Mount and Blade Warband
Mafia: The City of Lost Heaven
The Saboteur
Operation Flashpoint: Cold War Crisis
Minecraft
The Legend of Zelda OOT/WW/BotW
Driver San Francisco
Some were hugely critical successes, some weren't. But they all took a long look at the trends other open world games copy pasted from each other, and chose a different path. And so playing them subverts your expectations and often presents you with a real jewel of gaming you can't find elsewhere. Mercenaries, Mafia and Bully in particular are pretty much perfect games I would say, and the storytelling in The Saboteur, Operation Flashpoint and Zelda tops pretty much anything outside The Witcher and the latest GTAs.
All just opinion, of course.
As I mentioned to Squil, I find that an "open world" worth its label needs to have actual content to that world, and GTAV had it more than most other GTAs. If any other deserves it more than V, it would be San Andreas. Vice City had a more interesting setting and plot, but other than IV, the others did open world better I think.Tanis said:That list is so predictable it hurts.
GTA5 was a weak game, IMO, Vice City (or Liberty City Stories) had more 'style' to it.
Morrowind had a better 'world' and Oblivion had better quests.
Actually that reminds me- Far Cry 2 easily qualifies in my list too. Thanks for that.Arnoxthe1 said:This. Also, Red Faction: Guerilla because dat destruction engine...Squilookle said:Mercenaries: Playground of Destruction
Good god- you can't be serious!? Mercs 2 is a mess! I'll grant you better graphics, swimming, co-op and the grapple, but every single other aspect of the game just fell apart next to its older brother. Mercs 1 oozed with atmosphere- and felt like an open warzone. Mercs 2 was like a cartoon holiday special, with poorly optimised gameplay to boot. I still can't understand why guns got -less- accurate when you crouched, for example...Saelune said:Mercenaries 2 is better I think.
Here is why Mercs 2 is better:Squilookle said:Good god- you can't be serious!? Mercs 2 is a mess! I'll grant you better graphics, swimming, co-op and the grapple, but every single other aspect of the game just fell apart next to its older brother. Mercs 1 oozed with atmosphere- and felt like an open warzone. Mercs 2 was like a cartoon holiday special, with poorly optimised gameplay to boot. I still can't understand why guns got -less- accurate when you crouched, for example...Saelune said:Mercenaries 2 is better I think.
I get where you're coming from, but they're both fun, and Mercs 1 isn't about the winning either. It's essentially the difference between a precision engineered water-slide, and a backyard slippery dip over rocky ground with bits of groundsheet missing. Oh and the hose is set permanently to 'fan' mode.Saelune said:Here is why Mercs 2 is better:Squilookle said:Good god- you can't be serious!? Mercs 2 is a mess! I'll grant you better graphics, swimming, co-op and the grapple, but every single other aspect of the game just fell apart next to its older brother. Mercs 1 oozed with atmosphere- and felt like an open warzone. Mercs 2 was like a cartoon holiday special, with poorly optimised gameplay to boot. I still can't understand why guns got -less- accurate when you crouched, for example...Saelune said:Mercenaries 2 is better I think.
Co-op and the grappling hook make 2 way more fun for me. 1 had alot of good ideas that 2 should have kept, but 2 really was a game to just dick around in for alot of explosive fun.Squilookle said:I get where you're coming from, but they're both fun, and Mercs 1 isn't about the winning either. It's essentially the difference between a precision engineered water-slide, and a backyard slippery dip over rocky ground with bits of groundsheet missing. Oh and the hose is set permanently to 'fan' mode.Saelune said:Here is why Mercs 2 is better:Squilookle said:Good god- you can't be serious!? Mercs 2 is a mess! I'll grant you better graphics, swimming, co-op and the grapple, but every single other aspect of the game just fell apart next to its older brother. Mercs 1 oozed with atmosphere- and felt like an open warzone. Mercs 2 was like a cartoon holiday special, with poorly optimised gameplay to boot. I still can't understand why guns got -less- accurate when you crouched, for example...Saelune said:Mercenaries 2 is better I think.
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That's fair enough. I certainly liked Just Cause 2 more than JC1 for that same reason.Saelune said:Co-op and the grappling hook make 2 way more fun for me. 1 had alot of good ideas that 2 should have kept, but 2 really was a game to just dick around in for alot of explosive fun.Squilookle said:I get where you're coming from, but they're both fun, and Mercs 1 isn't about the winning either. It's essentially the difference between a precision engineered water-slide, and a backyard slippery dip over rocky ground with bits of groundsheet missing. Oh and the hose is set permanently to 'fan' mode.Saelune said:Here is why Mercs 2 is better:Squilookle said:Good god- you can't be serious!? Mercs 2 is a mess! I'll grant you better graphics, swimming, co-op and the grapple, but every single other aspect of the game just fell apart next to its older brother. Mercs 1 oozed with atmosphere- and felt like an open warzone. Mercs 2 was like a cartoon holiday special, with poorly optimised gameplay to boot. I still can't understand why guns got -less- accurate when you crouched, for example...Saelune said:Mercenaries 2 is better I think.
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I liked jumping out of helicopters to grapple onto different helicopters without hitting the ground.
This game doesn't get enough love! I thought the art style was great, with the black and white world vs the colour showing which areas of Paris you have unlocked. Yes, it was odd playing as an Irish racing car driver whom happens to also be part of the French resistance, but overlooking that then it was a pretty fun game.Squilookle said:
The Saboteur
I didn't think I'd see anyone else who actually liked it.Saelune said:Mercenaries 2 is better I think. 1 had alot of cool ideas that 2 sadly got rid of, but 2 was way more a "Playground of Destruction", especially with co-op. And that it clearly wanted you to live and kick ass. (At full health you can fall from ANY height and survive...with 1hp, but still)
Funny you bring up JC2 because it's really what Mercs 2 was supposed to be.Squilookle said:That's fair enough. I certainly liked Just Cause 2 more than JC1 for that same reason.
Much of the fun my brother and I had in Mercs 2 is the kind we had in GTA Online. Except in Mercs 2 we dropped bombs, and GTA we dropped busses...Leg End said:I didn't think I'd see anyone else who actually liked it.Saelune said:Mercenaries 2 is better I think. 1 had alot of cool ideas that 2 sadly got rid of, but 2 was way more a "Playground of Destruction", especially with co-op. And that it clearly wanted you to live and kick ass. (At full health you can fall from ANY height and survive...with 1hp, but still)
Funny you bring up JC2 because it's really what Mercs 2 was supposed to be.Squilookle said:That's fair enough. I certainly liked Just Cause 2 more than JC1 for that same reason.
Damn, I still have the .mp3 download of Oh No You Didn't that was on the website back in the day. Shit takes me back.
And yet, truth is often stranger than fiction!Elementary - Dear Watson said:This game doesn't get enough love! I thought the art style was great, with the black and white world vs the colour showing which areas of Paris you have unlocked. Yes, it was odd playing as an Irish racing car driver whom happens to also be part of the French resistance, but overlooking that then it was a pretty fun game.Squilookle said:
The Saboteur
And how! Considering how much better Mercs 1 was to Just Cause 1, I think the massive reversal of quality in the two series' sequels took everyone completely by surprise.Leg End said:Funny you bring up JC2 because it's really what Mercs 2 was supposed to be.Squilookle said:That's fair enough. I certainly liked Just Cause 2 more than JC1 for that same reason.