An Open Letter to the Producers of James Bond
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This is very true I really haven't had fun in a bond movie since Goldeneye. I mean my favorite Bond of all time was Sean Connery he just was Bond . He was witty, sophisticated, suave, fun etc etc. Anyway I will say I hated Craig almost as much as I hated Dalton I mean to me these two bond were just cast in gritty semi reality movies which tend to kill Bond movies altogether. Oh and I know I will most likely catch some flack for comparing Craig to Dalton.
Um... thank you. I believe I know a decent amount about James Bond (I have the collection set of all the movies and have seen). But the biggest thing that has bugged me recently,which I think you noted, is that 'Evil Schemes" aren't outlandish. In the past we've had, A satellite death ray bedazzled in diamonds, A crackpot Journalist starting a war between china and Russia with a stealth ship, another.... diamond satellite, nuclear warheads stolen by an underwater base, and , of course, renewable energy (no really Man with the Golden Gun)... and now we have... well Casino Royale was just a transference of money to an undercover agency and keeping water from poor people? Thus are boring, and not interesting at all. I feel that the mre outlandish the scheme the better movie it was but that's just me.
I'm not really going to complain about Craig as Bond; mostly because when the best Bond of all time (Connery) gives his blessing then all the lesser men must shut up in unison. Hopefully this franchise's future gets cleared up at some point so we can get things in order
I think my favourite Bond "I enjoy what I do and am damn good at it moment" was in Die Another Day when he goes AWOL from the boat. With massive beard and bathrobe he knocks out the guards and without a second thought jumps overboard and walks soaking wet into a hotel.
I like Daniel Craig. i thought that he pulled off what Bond was supposed to be. this suave yet cold man of mystery. using whatever tools or people he needed to accomplish the mission. Connery was good as bond as well. as was pierce brosnen, though he was more of a ladies man than a gadgeteer.
When was the last time James Bond had fun doing what he does? I can't remember.
Speaking of Batman, you know what sucks? Now that Chris Nolan can't bring the Joker back anymore, we are never even going to have the possibility of having Harley Quinn show up at some point. That would've been awesome.
Speaking of Batman, you know what sucks? Now that Chris Nolan can't bring the Joker back anymore, we are never even going to have the possibility of having Harley Quinn show up at some point. That would've been awesome.
I liked the new James Bond series. Yes, it isn't the original film series, but the new formula worked. Danial Craig had an edgy quality to him that other James Bonds lacked. Yes, the fight scenes are over done and overly long, and yes Quantum of Solace wasn't all that great, but still they were cool movies and I was looking forward to the third one. I still need to find out what the heck the deal with Quantum is!
Even so, it wasn't the new direction in 007 that killed Bond 23. The last two movies were amongst the most profitable films in Bond history - hundreds of millions of dollars were made. That they aren't making a new one just shows that MGM is truly finished as a film studio... or that they've gone the bold new financial direction of hating money.
Even so, it wasn't the new direction in 007 that killed Bond 23. The last two movies were amongst the most profitable films in Bond history - hundreds of millions of dollars were made. That they aren't making a new one just shows that MGM is truly finished as a film studio... or that they've gone the bold new financial direction of hating money.
I guess I don;t know what a real Bond film is supposed to be. I like the actiony adventury chaos fun that always seemed to happen.Fappy said:I liked Casino Royal, but I'll admit it didn't really feel like a Bond movie. Sadly we probably won't see one in awhile.
I sense it's a failing in general at the moment, that the bosses take something popular and liked, and then see something more popular, and think they can just smash their best property with a hammer til it vaguely resembles the more popular thing, and suddenly people will prefer theirs.
doesn't work like that, all you've done is wreck your own stuff for your own fans, and produce a broken, ugly version of what your competitors are already doing better than you.
So yes, in full agreement, make Bond Bond, not Batman 2, not Bourne revisited, not Iron Man 2.0, but Bond, James Bond. Sure he can be a little updated from his 50s self, but he's gotta stay sophisticated, classy, witty, confident and a ladies man who can handle himself in a fight without ruining his suit.
Just for the non Bond fans however :
doesn't work like that, all you've done is wreck your own stuff for your own fans, and produce a broken, ugly version of what your competitors are already doing better than you.
So yes, in full agreement, make Bond Bond, not Batman 2, not Bourne revisited, not Iron Man 2.0, but Bond, James Bond. Sure he can be a little updated from his 50s self, but he's gotta stay sophisticated, classy, witty, confident and a ladies man who can handle himself in a fight without ruining his suit.
Just for the non Bond fans however :
I would of said that she could still appear, keep the story of Harley becoming obsessed with the Joker through watching and hearing about him on the news, instead of being his shrink when he was in Arkham. She could still become the villain by looking for revenge on Batman for what he did to the Joker, or would that be too far-fetched?RTR said:
Sorry, but has anyone here read the books??? Bond was a depressed, alcoholic, uncontrollable woman beater. He alienated all his friends and colleagues. The whole POINT of the books was that it was all about his struggle and character development. The films are what happens when hollywood gets their hands on a franchise. I think Craig is different, not better or worse - he's portraying a different type of bond. He still has his british class (refusing to stay in a grotty hotel, and pretending he's a teacher that's won the lotto to stay in a posh hotel? His clothes? Glasses? Aston Martin DBS anyone??), and womanizing ways (isn't that what he gets in trouble for in Quantum of Solace?)- it's just darker. Original.
I like hollywood bond like anyone, but the reason why the 'Craig Revolution' happened was because a giant plastic-y laser made from a guy with diamonds in his face in a tacky looking ice hotel was just a stretch too far...
I like hollywood bond like anyone, but the reason why the 'Craig Revolution' happened was because a giant plastic-y laser made from a guy with diamonds in his face in a tacky looking ice hotel was just a stretch too far...
I totally agree with the English things, it's a core part of the character. I
If you want an American James Bond, just tell the studio's to get on with the 24 movie, Jack Bauer was just the producers way of making Bond the American hero.
If you want an American James Bond, just tell the studio's to get on with the 24 movie, Jack Bauer was just the producers way of making Bond the American hero.
You know, it seems to me that Bond got over the whole 'tormented past' thing by the end of Quantum of Solace. In fact, that seemed to be the whole point of the movie. It wasn't about Bond going out to shoot more bad guys, it was the traditional RPG choice of 'revenge, or no revenge'. And, it seems he's over it. He left the guy alive (I can't remember his name). And that seems like a fitting end to the series.
By the way, I loved Daniel Craig as the new 007. I don't understand why people think he's lost his suave, swagger and style. He's an incredibly intelligent character, he's just no longer toting duck hats and invisible cars.
By the way, I loved Daniel Craig as the new 007. I don't understand why people think he's lost his suave, swagger and style. He's an incredibly intelligent character, he's just no longer toting duck hats and invisible cars.
Knight Of The Realm, not the round.
Oh and fyi I agree whole-heartedly with everything you said. (well... wrote)
Oh and fyi I agree whole-heartedly with everything you said. (well... wrote)
See I go the other way. I like Jason Bourne because he is basically "broken" as a human being. I was never crazy about Bond as a child, I just never found him any way interesting as a character. I do think Bond films should not try to emulate Bourne because once the inherent sillyness kicks in your left going "wha?" Clear and Present Danger and Bourne follow real worldish rules and can't really have laser watches and sex powered yachts. So even though I am not a huge Bondage fan I think he should be killing guys while shagging educationally sub-normal woman and killing his liver with booze. oh and not bleeding....