Medal of Honor Studio Was "Hurt" by Controversy

Andy Chalk

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Medal of Honor Studio Was "Hurt" by Controversy


Medal of Honor [http://www.amazon.com/Medal-Honor-Limited-Xbox-360/dp/B000TI836G/ref=sr_1_1?s=gateway&ie=UTF8&qid=1285700508&sr=8-1] Executive Producer Greg Goorich knew the inclusion of the Taliban as a playable faction might be controversial but says the actual extent of the outcry took a real toll on the morale of the development team.

Sometimes it's not enough to see trouble coming. Every now and then, the harmless-looking snowball arcing toward your face has a hard, heavy core of ice and gravel packed inside it. And when it smacks home, it hurts. That's what happened to the Medal of Honor team at Danger Close [http://www.dangerclosegames.com/], according to Goodrich, who said the team saw the snowball coming but had no idea what was actually inside.

"I don't understand why [the Taliban controversy] came when it did but it came and it hurt. It was a morale hit and everything," he told CVG [http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=266996?cid=OTC-RSS&attr=CVG-General-RSS].

"Our intentions have never been anything but honorable and this Medal of Honor game is no different than any Medal of Honor game that has come before it, in that regard, in our intent and our tone. But because, on a character selection screen, three of those characters were called Taliban, that caused a problem and that's what everyone focus on," he continued. "Everything else that we'd done kind of went away and everything else that we'd talked about and they weren't looking at the entire piece and the entire message."

Part of the surprise may have resulted from the timing of the uproar, which Goodrich said was "odd" because it came so long after the presence of the Taliban had been made public knowledge. "We had the beta out, the game was out. I mean we talked about the story, the modes and we talked about who the enemy was and this and that," he said. "And then the beta came out and people played it and then the beta ended and it just erupted. It was odd."

Goodrich's comments aren't too far removed from those of Electronic Arts CEO John Riccitiello, who said earlier this month [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/103532-EA-Boss-Was-Surprised-By-Medal-of-Honor-Uproar] that the controversy "kind of caught me by surprise." I'm not sure where all this shock and anguish is coming from since I can't think of too many things more instantly controversial than turning murderous Taliban scumbags into the Blue Team, but Goodrich still believes that the true intent of the game will be clear when it's released. "I'm really confident that when it does come out and if [critics] are paying attention and if they care to understand truly what our game is about they'll realize what we've done is the same thing we've always done and that's pay tribute to the soldier," he said.

Medal of Honor comes out on October 12 for the PC, Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3.


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Terramax

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Controversy sells newspapers and heightens the profiles of unknown politicians. As soon as one of the two catches wind of anything remotely controversal, it'll be exaggerated in an attempt to cash in on people's shock and anger.

The strange timing of the negative outcry was due to some unknown MP in England suddenly knowing about the game.
 

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*Looks through Deck of blame-cards*

[sub]fox news, fox news, fox news,[/sub] Ah, here it is. *slaps card w/ fox news on it on table* I blame Fox News for this outcry.

(I don't blame you if this was confusing)
 

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The fact that they are using taliban soldiers in this game isn't worse than the fact that they are using nazis in the older games.

What worries me is how the taliban are used as cartoon villains (this worries me with nazis aswell), adversity can only be solved by clarifying diffenrences, not by making the counterpart look like demons.
 

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Whatever, just wash your hands.
Im surprised that the ww2 games dont get any of it for having you playing germans in the multi
 

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Whoa, first of all, the Taliban are definitely on the Red team, as Red team are a buncha dicks.

Seriously though, how they didn't see any controversy coming is beyond me. And the fact that they even thought that video game haters would let something like this slide when viewed in the big picture is ridiculous.
 

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If only they stuck to Generic-Middle Eastern terrorists! Then none of this would've happened.
 

Brotherofwill

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Wounded, even?

If you want to cause controversy you better be prepared to deal with it.

Anstrup said:
What worries me is how the taliban are used as cartoon villains (this worries me with nazis aswell), adversity can only be solved by clarifying diffenrences, not by making the counterpart look like demons.
Very true.
 

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Im sure these sort of things dont come as a surprise, but it really must hurt when the object of your life is being scorned before its even been made public
 

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Dioxide20 said:
Seriously though, how they didn't see any controversy coming is beyond me. And the fact that they even thought that video game haters would let something like this slide when viewed in the big picture is ridiculous.
Andy Chalk said:
Sometimes it's not enough to see trouble coming. Every now and then, the harmless-looking snowball arcing toward your face has a hard, heavy core of ice and gravel packed inside it. And when it smacks home, it hurts. That's what happened to the Medal of Honor team at Danger Close [http://www.dangerclosegames.com/], according to Goodrich, who said the team saw the snowball coming but had no idea what was actually inside.
The article says they did see it coming, just not really the extent of the controversy. And I can kind of see why it would kind of suck to put all this work into a game and then have a ton of people ignore everything else to go HABLAGARBLEGARFLE THIS GAME IS EVIL because of one little detail.
 

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Terramax said:
The strange timing of the negative outcry was due to some unknown MP in England suddenly knowing about the game.
By "unknown MP" you mean "Secretary of Defense", right? That's hardly an unknown position.
 

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Dioxide20 said:
Whoa, first of all, the Taliban are definitely on the Red team, as Red team are a buncha dicks.

Seriously though, how they didn't see any controversy coming is beyond me. And the fact that they even thought that video game haters would let something like this slide when viewed in the big picture is ridiculous.
What with the precedent cases such close-minded, pontificating media hounds have set, they should not act like they were completely blindsided.

A part of me wonders what the outcome would have been if the multiplayer simply coined the mulitplayer "Taliban" as just "Insurgents," "Terrorists," or something of the likes. Considering the lack of depth/story in online gameplay, it wouldn't even affect the game while pacifying the crying nay-sayers. I am also curious as to how the game will "pay tribute to the soldiers," and how that is even possible in the online portion.
 

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Absolute crap, this controversy. C&C Generals allowed you to play the US, China, and the GLA, with the GLA being the equivalent of INSERT TERRORIST GROUP HERE. I don't recall any major objections then.
 

Jared

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I can imagine, after all there wrk to be look down on by certain people would be quite hurtful...but, I hope they still push forward with awesomeness
 

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Credge said:
Absolute crap, this controversy. C&C Generals allowed you to play the US, China, and the GLA, with the GLA being the equivalent of INSERT TERRORIST GROUP HERE. I don't recall any major objections then.
*looks in the direction of the Modern Warfare series*
Exactly the same thing, you play as terrorists in multiplayer. The ONLY difference here is that the "terrorist group who shall not be named" is replaced with an actual terrorist faction.
 

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not that I'll be spending that much time in multiplayer when I rent the game anyway
but hey, the development team should keep their heads up. don't let the crazy peoples' opinions get to ya
it'll help a lot now and down later in life...
 

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Yeah were's the outcry for be able to play as German soldiers in WW2 games.
Were was the outcry for being able to play as Imperial Japanese Soldiers.
Both killed/tortured plenty people.
People have too much time on their hands if they can get in a tissy over this.
 

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American Media. But actually, New Zealands defence minister wants to ban it. (fuck our country, always follow the leader).

If gaming is going to go anywhere, it's going to start with shoving some big controversy down the virgin throat of the global media so they actually choke on it instead of spitting it out all over the sensitive people who would react to it. (i.e Families who have lost children/parents/spouses to a Terror attack).

9/11 was a tragedy, but that's no fair leverage to use against a video game which is merely a simulation at the most.
 

Caliostro

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Boo-Fucking-Hoo.

Were they asleep during the MW2 launch or something? Did they manage to somehow miss the idiotically absurd controversy surrounding "No Russian" because you CAN participate in a slaughter, a situation only replicated in pretty much every other game ever made?

People are idiots. Controversy creates cash. Man up, ride it out, and make a fortune out of it.