I'd be surprised if she actually watched them from beginning to end.Fronzel said:What, you're surprised a mainstream news source turned in a shallow and uninformed opinion of something other than mainstream culture?
Good point, I assumed they were going to shoehorn the betrayal into the coming scenes, but the show is rapidly running out of time.Jandau said:One thing that bugs me about this episode and the previous one is that the plot element where Sansa betrays her father to Cersei is completely left out. Now, it's been a while since I read the books, but I distinctly recall Sansa running to Cersei and telling her of Ned's plans, which gives Cersei the chance to prepare for the confrontation with Ned and turn the tables on him. Sansa commits this betrayal to stop her father from sending her away from King's Landing and Joffrey and is a major event that shapes Sansa as a character (being to blame for the death of your friends and family tends to do that to a person).
In the show, this is completely skipped. When it wasn't shown in the previous episode I just assumed it'll be brought to light this week, but no such luck.
I don't mind that some minor story arcs get left out of the show for the sake of brevity (like Jon Snow getting Samwell assigned to the Stewards), but this was a fairly significant plot point and is the first deviation from the book that really bothered me. And if they had time for a 5 minute lesbian scene, they sure as hell could have put in a short scene where Sansa runs to Cersei and spills the beans!
But the lesbian scene was needed to give deeper meaning to Littlefinger's chaarcter. Just rewatch the scene, there are two hot chicks going at it and he's supremely uninterested, and instead only shows us how thoroughly self absorbed in himself he really is. I'm only halfway through the second book, but Littlefinger is starting to come across as one of the most cunning bastards at King's Landing.Greg Tito said:Good point, I assumed they were going to shoehorn the betrayal into the coming scenes, but the show is rapidly running out of time.Jandau said:One thing that bugs me about this episode and the previous one is that the plot element where Sansa betrays her father to Cersei is completely left out. Now, it's been a while since I read the books, but I distinctly recall Sansa running to Cersei and telling her of Ned's plans, which gives Cersei the chance to prepare for the confrontation with Ned and turn the tables on him. Sansa commits this betrayal to stop her father from sending her away from King's Landing and Joffrey and is a major event that shapes Sansa as a character (being to blame for the death of your friends and family tends to do that to a person).
In the show, this is completely skipped. When it wasn't shown in the previous episode I just assumed it'll be brought to light this week, but no such luck.
I don't mind that some minor story arcs get left out of the show for the sake of brevity (like Jon Snow getting Samwell assigned to the Stewards), but this was a fairly significant plot point and is the first deviation from the book that really bothered me. And if they had time for a 5 minute lesbian scene, they sure as hell could have put in a short scene where Sansa runs to Cersei and spills the beans!
Greg
The Lannisters are okay with killing members of a household. She isn't exactly like a Nun as she is the Stark's Septa (so more like a household spiritual advisor) in the same way a lot of the houses have their own Maester.sleeky01 said:One thing I'm alittle confused about. As I understand it the religion of the new gods (the 7) has priests to administer to the congregations known as Septons, which would be comparable to priests in the Catholic church.
Septa Mordane would be comperable to a Nun in the Catholic church yes? She's even wearing something close to a nuns habit and wimple.
So the Lanisters are ok with killing a Nun?
Doesn't seem to be how HBO sees it.ElectroJosh said:The Lannisters are okay with killing members of a household. She isn't exactly like a Nun as she is the Stark's Septa (so more like a household spiritual advisor) in the same way a lot of the houses have their own Maester.sleeky01 said:One thing I'm alittle confused about. As I understand it the religion of the new gods (the 7) has priests to administer to the congregations known as Septons, which would be comparable to priests in the Catholic church.
Septa Mordane would be comperable to a Nun in the Catholic church yes? She's even wearing something close to a nuns habit and wimple.
So the Lanisters are ok with killing a Nun?
Besides the Lannisters aren't the most pious of the great familys.
sleeky01 said:Doesn't seem to be how HBO sees it.ElectroJosh said:The Lannisters are okay with killing members of a household. She isn't exactly like a Nun as she is the Stark's Septa (so more like a household spiritual advisor) in the same way a lot of the houses have their own Maester.sleeky01 said:One thing I'm alittle confused about. As I understand it the religion of the new gods (the 7) has priests to administer to the congregations known as Septons, which would be comparable to priests in the Catholic church.
Septa Mordane would be comperable to a Nun in the Catholic church yes? She's even wearing something close to a nuns habit and wimple.
So the Lanisters are ok with killing a Nun?
Besides the Lannisters aren't the most pious of the great familys.
http://viewers-guide.hbo.com/game-of-thrones/#!/guide/houses/stark/septa-mordane/gods-old-and-new/
The relevant text:
A priestess of the Faith of the Seven, she serves as governess of the Stark daughters with the aim of teaching them how to be ladies. She has an easier time with Sansa than Arya.
So she is an actual Priestess.