I've seen a simular experiment(not sure where) where they did the same thing, but shifted the roles back and forth. When the man was abusive to the woman people stepped in often and quickly, confronting the man and protecting the woman, but when the woman attacked the man people just laughed and pointed. Even a police officer who walked by didn't give a shit when the man was the submissive one.Fronken said:Much like a social experiment they did in Norway many years ago, cant remember exacly where/when though, but what they did was they hired a male and a female actor/actress, who then went to a certain street, where the male actor started harrassing the female, *****-slapping her and pulling her hair, screaming at her and spitting on her, pretty much every nasty thing someone can do to another person, it took over 20 minutes of abuse until someone actually stopped him, and this was on a very busy street.
You're making it sound like a parent swatting a kid for acting like a fool is gonna damage them for when they're a teen / adult. I as an example been swatted for acting like a idiot because there was no getting through to me then because at the time respect was a song a sung poorly.Sexual Harassment Panda said:I've always thought that was overstated, Oprah kind of bullshit. You keep your anti-social urges bottled, or you alienate everyone around you. Your stress is your problem/malfunction, working on yourself seems like a better option than lashing out.TheDooD said:Holding in aggression only leads to bigger explosions of rage and or other stress related illnesses. Plus sometimes kids are THAT fucking annoying that you just have to pop'em one because they aren't smart enough for reason so the pop teaches them instantly not to do whatever they did.Sexual Harassment Panda said:If I'm doing something, I like to aim for an optimal outcome...that's just me.The7Sins said:I would not care what the extra side effects would be. If it caused him to not steal again then it was for the good. Being emotionally or physically scarred for life is merely part of the consequences the punishment for theft would bring.Sexual Harassment Panda said:Are you sure that's all that happens when you physically "educate" a child though? Maybe he wouldn't steal again(and I mean "maybe"), but it's pretty fucking dumb to think that the effects end there.The7Sins said:Well the kid supposedly was a thief. If so IMO they did not beat him enough. They should have continued to knocked out or just go the Vegas route and cut off one of his hands. Basically scar him for life and make him remember to never ever ever steal.
I don't think children can handle beatings, period. I also think there's something perverse about adults that are willing to dole out beatings to children.
The idea that hitting kids can fuck them up, isn't exactly wacky and unsubstantiated. You're not only warping them in abstract and intangible ways, you're also teaching them that hitting is how issues are resolved.
When the kid frustrates you and you snap and decide that smacking the undeveloped(mentally and physically)person is the way to go, your body gives you a nice chemical reward for getting rid of that aggression. That reward makes you more likely to be aggressive the next time something ticks you off...slippery slope from there.
It really is in societies best interests to keep the aggression contained.
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Where in the fuck are the kid's parents.
When you smack a kid, you're not teaching it much other than "violence solves problems, your natural role-model seems to think so"...or possibly that you're an idiot that they should get away from at the first chance that they get. When your kids leave and never visit/call you know you've fucked up, because a loving and respectful family is a joy to have.
I don't accept the notion that it's a necessary evil either. If you've earned your offspring's respect, you don't need violence at all, you can destroy them with words...they're really not thick-skinned at all.
Communism isn't the cause of this. I have no idea where you get your facts, but communism is just that everyone is created equal. no class system. no rich, no poor. you work to live, not to make money. do your job, and get food and a place to live. the only unfortunate thing from it is that the government has a secret rule that some people are more equal than others. namely those in power. Besides, the whole "MERICA vs communists" was simply planned economy (communism) vs capitalism. You know where that got us? through almost TWO great depressions and more debt than we care to talk about.blackguard89 said:Hmm...I dunno what to say.
I believe China is still in comunist mode or something....So you might want to take into consideration the propaganda being pumped into people's brains every day there :|
Also even if it weren't, I couldn't say I'm surprised. Welcome to the nasty side of humanity people.You might be surprised how society and other stuff can affect some people, and make them turn out.
Not a law, but rather countless psychological and sociological studies on the subject which have amounted in quite a few a theories that so far seem to be holding their ground quite well (and people scoff on them for being soft sciences, ha!), the one you're thinking off is likely the "bystander effect".Berithil said:Well, sadly I'm not surprised. There were stories of a girl getting gangraped and people just stood and watched. I beloved there is a law that states that the more people who are around when something bad happens, the less likely someone will help. Can't remember what the name was