Activision Prices Call of Duty Elite

[Korten12]

Hmmm after further research I'm willing to give it the benefit of the doubt (still too expensive and unfair if you ask me but oh well). Gamers mistrust for Kotick and activision is well founded but this time I'll take the high road and just not purchase MW3 or its elite thingy.

I think they should have gone with either maybe... $17, $20, or $25 rather then 50. I think those are more of sweet spot.

But then they're selling their DLC short? I'll wager that most people who buy one map pack are the kind of people that buy all of them.

Then they should lower their price of DLC to like $6. I want the rest of the zombie maps. XD (only bought the latest DLC for Blops on ps3 to get Shangri-La but no way am I paying more for the last two. Luckly I get the final dlc for free b/c I own the harden edition. So I guess I am good for now...)

 

[Korten12]

Let's do a quick comparison between CoD and another online FPS.

CoD: Expensive price, little to no patches, bug fixes and playtesting, expensive "dlc" which consists of a few maps, new game released each year, horribly imbalanced, known for being rage inducing, horrible RPG elements for unlocks.

TF2: Hats, free, hats, constant free updates, maps, weapons, new hats, stuff added in by the community, been out for many years and has been thouroughly playtested and balanced, overall fun experience, hats, random drop system, hats.

Sure, I'm slightly biased, but it's fairly clear which is the better game and which developers have ab etter mindset. Yet people will still buy not only MW3. But this elite malarkey. All I can really say to that is y? y u do this? You don't even get fancy hats with elite. You get them for free in TF2. Hats! Hats hats hat hat hat hats hat.

TF2 and CoD are quite different. Like I somewhat see why people compare BF and CoD (despite personally feeling that both are good at what they do. One's more tactical while the other one is more just faster pace shoot up.) but... TF2... Is a heavily team-based shooter, with radically different gameplay to CoD...

 

[SuperNova221]

Let's do a quick comparison between CoD and another online FPS.

CoD: Expensive price, little to no patches, bug fixes and playtesting, expensive "dlc" which consists of a few maps, new game released each year, horribly imbalanced, known for being rage inducing, horrible RPG elements for unlocks.

TF2: Hats, free, hats, constant free updates, maps, weapons, new hats, stuff added in by the community, been out for many years and has been thouroughly playtested and balanced, overall fun experience, hats, random drop system, hats.

Sure, I'm slightly biased, but it's fairly clear which is the better game and which developers have ab etter mindset. Yet people will still buy not only MW3. But this elite malarkey. All I can really say to that is y? y u do this? You don't even get fancy hats with elite. You get them for free in TF2. Hats! Hats hats hat hat hat hats hat.

TF2 and CoD are quite different. Like I somewhat see why people compare BF and CoD (despite personally feeling that both are good at what they do. One's more tactical while the other one is more just faster pace shoot up.) but... TF2... Is a heavily team-based shooter, with radically different gameplay to CoD...

It was more of a comparison between the quality of the games and the companies mindset when it comes to making the game than comparing the two games directly to see which one is better. Didn't really make hat clear.

 

[Von Strimmer]

Hmmm after further research I'm willing to give it the benefit of the doubt (still too expensive and unfair if you ask me but oh well). Gamers mistrust for Kotick and activision is well founded but this time I'll take the high road and just not purchase MW3 or its elite thingy.

I think they should have gone with either maybe... $17, $20, or $25 rather then 50. I think those are more of sweet spot.

I think the problem with Activision here is that they just jumped right into it and started charging $50 straight up with no sweetener. I mean will this go up in price? Will they change how many additional maps they put out? There are way too many variables and people dont want to put there money into things/a company that a) have been known to be a bit of a rip-off and; b) Can change the ToS at any time leaving you out of pocket.

Its like paying for a season pass on itunes. You pay up front and you are not even told when things come out. What if they bring out maps after your subscription runs out so you only pay your $50 and only get half the maps? what then? I have a feeling that the consumer is going to be severely out of pocket by the end of this.

 

[GonzoGamer]

So it's like they're selling people another COD game every year but without the gamers getting another game.
How has the industry come to this? I realize that most gamers are suckers but I didn't realize that a target that big has been painted on all of us.
Seriously, for that price, 'Elites' should get the DLC for free; this makes it sound like they just get the "benefit" of buying the DLC before anyone has had the chance to play it.
And that's not really a benefit; by todays standards it sounds like they're paying more to be play testers.
Even if you do get the maps come with the charge, you're paying MORE for them long before you've even found out if they're any good.

 

[Josh123914]

Also what the fuck does quality even matter in this arguemet?

You've just made my entire point.

Quality is everything. That's what you're paying premium for.

If you're just paying a shitload up front without knowing what's in it, then you're just like the lady who bought the wooden iPad. Take a damn look inside the box first.

Go back and actually check how many people on this "fucking forum" actually called people idiots for buying this. It's way less than half. They just said they didn't want to buy it, and they knew a lot of people that would.

I'm afraid the person most upset by this is you. And you're willing to pay the money.

I agree with Root, quality over quantity my friend, quality over quantity.

 

[General BrEeZy]

lame. and i was gonna pre-order it and everything. sorry, i'm not using my money for that Activision. well have fun with it guys!

 

[Korten12]

So it's like they're selling people another COD game every year but without the gamers getting another game.
How has the industry come to this? I realize that most gamers are suckers but I didn't realize that a target that big has been painted on all of us.
Seriously, for that price, 'Elites' should get the DLC for free; this makes it sound like they just get the "benefit" of buying the DLC before anyone has had the chance to play it.
And that's not really a benefit; by todays standards it sounds like they're paying more to be play testers.
Even if you do get the maps come with the charge, you're paying MORE for them long before you've even found out if they're any good.

That's the point, Elite subbers do get the DLC for free, you even keep it if you unsub. Though as I told someone earlier, the quality of the maps (which btw the dlc isn't just maps, but also gamemodes and Spec Ops maps) is subjective. But most likely if you're going to pay for elite. You would download all the maps you get.

 

[silent-treatment]

... "Hardened Edition"?
That's just wrong on sooooo many levels, and made worse by the fact that parents will shell out cash so their kids can enjoy the Hardened goodness too!

You sir have won the thread.

OT: I think all game companies should take the Valve approach. Make all of their dlc free as penance for being at least three years over due on everything. Then maybe Activsion (this look like it is spelled wrong) wont be releasing a COD every frikkin year.

 

[GoddyofAus]

Who wants to bet that Activision don't release any DLC map packs in the first year because of the 1 year Elite subscription in the Hardened version.

 

[Ickorus]

players will receive early access to all Modern Warfare 3 map packs

Turns out my natural cynicism is wrong, you do actually get all DLC 'free' when you sign up to it, im still skeptical as to the worth of it all but since im not planning on getting the game i'll leave it at that.

 

[D0WNT0WN]

So you pay £40 for the game plus £40 to get all the content and a subsequent £40 for each year you want to access the content, PLUS you pay for the map packs that'll cost £7 each.

Yeah, fuck off Activision.

 

[GonzoGamer]

So it's like they're selling people another COD game every year but without the gamers getting another game.
How has the industry come to this? I realize that most gamers are suckers but I didn't realize that a target that big has been painted on all of us.
Seriously, for that price, 'Elites' should get the DLC for free; this makes it sound like they just get the "benefit" of buying the DLC before anyone has had the chance to play it.
And that's not really a benefit; by todays standards it sounds like they're paying more to be play testers.
Even if you do get the maps come with the charge, you're paying MORE for them long before you've even found out if they're any good.

That's the point, Elite subbers do get the DLC for free, you even keep it if you unsub. Though as I told someone earlier, the quality of the maps (which btw the dlc isn't just maps, but also gamemodes and Spec Ops maps) is subjective. But most likely if you're going to pay for elite. You would download all the maps you get.

Even if you do intend to purchase all the DLC, this isn't exactly a deal and it should be considering the people putting down the money are taking a leap of faith and handing over the money months before they get to see anything in return.
Then again, gamers already got talked into this practice with gamestop's pre-orders so I wont really be too surprised if this scheme is a success.
I just don't see how it will encourage the devs to put much effort into the dlc if they already got the money for it. Normally you're supposed to pay someone when the job is finished.

 

[The_root_of_all_evil]

Thats a bigger cop out. You bring up Quality in to the argumenet but then say basically it's not subjective.

There's a subjective quality, but simply copy/pasting maps from different ideas won't be a set of quality map. Hydro from TF2 is roundly loathed and had that map appeared in a map pack, few people would have bought it.

I have tried but nothing seemed to be one by you. I answered but I guess it wasn't good enough if you're saying that.

No, you haven't. You have continually stated that "everyone hates CoD" on this "fucking forum", which simply isn't true.

It's a popular (+hate) FPS (+hate) from Activision (++hate) that releases yearly (+hate) for increasing prices (+hate) and is defended for it's realism (+hate) by a number of people who scream obscenities (+hate) and treat the rest of the community as bad people for doing so.

Take a look at some of the hate Halo, Half-Life, Team Fortress, Battlefield 3 gets.

Now, look back at this thread and look at all the people who are screaming at others. That's a far more damning indictment of the game than the haters could ever put across.

Some people don't like CoD, Activision really doesn't need defending from them. They're putting out an offer that a lot of people are seeing as a candy bar to suck new players in. Players who will learn their levels of netiquette from places like here.

You say you won't be buying the membership pack, but you've just wasted an hour of your life cursing at people spreading information.

Really...If everyone who read this article didn't buy CoD on the strength of the arguments here, would it even register a blip on Activision's market?

And if you seriously think this is a Hate Spike, wait until Breaking Dawn, Spore or Transformers 4 comes out. This isn't even a Hate Tack yet.

 

[Korten12]

So you pay £40 for the game plus £40 to get all the content and a subsequent £40 for each year you want to access the content, PLUS you pay for the map packs that'll cost £7 each.

Yeah, fuck off Activision.

No you get the maps for free.

players will receive early access to all Modern Warfare 3 map packs

Notice it doesn't say they'll get the map packs free or at a reduced price, just 'early'.

As it goes I don't really mind this, only idiots willpay and if you're that stupid you don't deserve disposable income.

The site says the maps are for free.

http://translate.google.com/translate?ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fps3life.nl%2Fnieuws%2F8945-met-call-of-duty-elite-krijg-je-gratis-mw3-dlc%2F&sl=nl&tl=en

 

[Korten12]

Thats a bigger cop out. You bring up Quality in to the argumenet but then say basically it's not subjective.

There's a subjective quality, but simply copy/pasting maps from different ideas won't be a set of quality map. Hydro from TF2 is roundly loathed and had that map appeared in a map pack, few people would have bought it.

How do you know? Have you seen the DLC for MW3? No, you haven't as it hasn't even been shown yet.

I have tried but nothing seemed to be one by you. I answered but I guess it wasn't good enough if you're saying that.

No, you haven't. You have continually stated that "everyone hates CoD" on this "fucking forum", which simply isn't true. [/quote]

No, I answer, you bring up irrelevent points and then call me out. Also you know it's so true. This forum is really bad when it comes to COD hate. Don't even deny it. Did you see this thread: http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.310733-MW3-no-different-than-MW2-some-MW3-gameplay?page=1

This is the shining example of how out of hand the COD hate has gotten. There is some who try to defend. But they're quickly drowned out by the hate.

It's a popular (+hate) FPS (+hate) from Activision (++hate) that releases yearly (+hate) for increasing prices (+hate) and is defended for it's realism (+hate) by a number of people who scream obscenities (+hate) and treat the rest of the community as bad people for doing so.

Take a look at some of the hate Halo, Half-Life, Team Fortress, Battlefield 3 gets.

Those (albeit Halo gets bad hate at times) are nearly as much hate on COD gets. Not even close.

Now, look back at this thread and look at all the people who are screaming at others. That's a far more damning indictment of the game than the haters could ever put across.

Some people don't like CoD, Activision really doesn't need defending from them. They're putting out an offer that a lot of people are seeing as a candy bar to suck new players in. Players who will learn their levels of netiquette from places like here.

Oh Bullshit. You know why we need to defend. Becuase of the haters. Seriously, I wouldn't be here in this thread if people didn't get angry about half-ass knowledge.

Hates on this forum are way worse. You should know, becuase they DO make up the majority on this site.

You say you won't be buying the membership pack, but you've just wasted an hour of your life cursing at people spreading information.

I don't pay for World of Warcraft (b/c I don't play it) but I could argue why people would pay for it. Just becuase you aren't going to pay for it, doesn't mean you can't argue for it. What you said is a cop-out.

Really...If everyone who read this article didn't buy CoD on the strength of the arguments here, would it even register a blip on Activision's market?

That's not the point and also another cop-out. Basically saying: "Why argue, if it's not going to work." If that was the case, why would anyone argue about anything, ever?

And if you seriously think this is a Hate Spike, wait until Breaking Dawn, Spore or Transformers 4 comes out. This isn't even a Hate Tack yet.

Yeah it is a Hate Track, it's been one since Modern Warfare 2, almost TWO YEARS AGO. Hell, its not even a track, its a whole TRAIN.

 

[Ickorus]

So you pay £40 for the game plus £40 to get all the content and a subsequent £40 for each year you want to access the content, PLUS you pay for the map packs that'll cost £7 each.

Yeah, fuck off Activision.

No you get the maps for free.

players will receive early access to all Modern Warfare 3 map packs

Notice it doesn't say they'll get the map packs free or at a reduced price, just 'early'.

As it goes I don't really mind this, only idiots willpay and if you're that stupid you don't deserve disposable income.

The site says the maps are for free.

http://translate.google.com/translate?ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fps3life.nl%2Fnieuws%2F8945-met-call-of-duty-elite-krijg-je-gratis-mw3-dlc%2F&sl=nl&tl=en

Im smart enough to admit when im wrong, I also checked the proper website for the service to confirm and you indeed are correct.

I'll go edit my original post accordingly now.

 

[The_root_of_all_evil]

Hell, its not even a track, its a whole TRAIN.

Seriously? I'm not even going to continue on this. I'm one of the few people to answer you directly and I've just been bad-mouthed off every time.

Did you ever think of who's driving this train? Because there's only one person on this thread talking about "all the hate on CoD".

I'm one of the only person who has answered you, and I'm the only person you've directed this flurry at.

Think about it. Maybe you're wrong?

And even if you're 100% right, and there's a Hotbed of Hate here, what difference does it make in the end?

 

[stormcrow5]

This is no better then a rent game at the moment for me so elite is pretty much worthless
but it better have 4 map packs first year then to make that 50 bucks worth it because the rest of the fetures seem pointless gimmicks

 

[martin's a madman]

Obviously people are interested in it, but currently, I cannot see myself ever doing this.